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Moises Caicedo | Chelsea agree £115M fee | signed for Chelsea
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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I think we’re just timid when it comes to moves like that - then we pay a crazy premium.
At least with Alvarez I think the line at the time was that we didn’t have a permanent manager IIRC
Not a chance in hell are we bidding for him.
Apparently Brexit made things extra confusing and we essentially couldn't be bothered.
The issue with that is United and Everton suspended their players immediately and well before any charges. There’s pre charge and post charge bail in the UK.
Your time line is out somewhat.
I wouldn't be surprised if there was something in the background that we, as a PLC with all its reporting obligations, couldn't get involved with.
Someone from BBC tweeted that out, I don't know if there's any truth to it though.
I’d agree we don’t seem to make these cheaper more interesting punts nearly enough. We always seem to end up paying a massive premium when we’re involved in high potential youngster signings.
That happens with poor scouting and recruitment
We’re run worse than the Dog and Duck
Yeah one day we will stop missing out again
For half the price of what Brighton want for Caicedo, either Arsenal or ourselves could probably go to Gladbach and sign Koné who is the same age and I’d argue a better player. Strange how nobody has tried to get him as an alternative.
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I was joking, I know it’s multiple agents that scared all the big sides off, probably all questioning now how they do business better in those markets
Wow, his parents must be massive fans.
How did Brighton take advantage? Did they misrepresent what Cucurella could do somehow? Nobody forced Chelsea to bid for him at all, let alone bid that sum?
Ffs
Can we just wait to see who Brighton go for as his replacement and then bid for him?!
Poor recruitment team/not thoroughly scouted, so probably thought it's not worth the hassle. Wouldn't be surprised if they tried to save face with the agent story.
Brighton managed it easily enough.
He'll be gone on deadline day. No point in keeping him now.
How did Chelsea take advantage of Brighton then? Did they force Brighton to sell?
Only because they had existing relations with those agents
United have usually walked away where there are multiple agents involved.
he was scouted after recommendation by Antonio Valencia.
Remember he was far from the finished article too when he arrived, it took a while for him to make the Brighton team.
You can’t win them all.
I didn't say Chelsea took advantage of Brighton?
I think Brighton got fair prices for those 2 other players (as they did with Bissouma and Trossard considering the contract situations). My reply was to the poster who seems to think they should just accept whatever any bigger club comes in and says, because they're not going to win 3 CLs/league titles so what's the point of them?
random.Brighton are the new Southampton during that period when they had the likes of potch, dijk, mane etc..
Can't see it happening unfortunately.
Edu better sign a good midfielder before the window shuts.
Edu better sign a good midfielder before the window shuts.
1. If you pay peanuts, and they perform, fans then start the gloating that they unearthed a gem and got a great player at cut price.
but then if they don't perform well, you can always convince yourself, ah well, that's what we paid for anyway.
Then again, when the club spends peanuts, and even though a rare gem is found, fans also argue - why the club is skint and not spending enough money on the big name signings (Look, i don't think the Glazers are being stingy here, considering they backed ETH at the start of the season, but still being in a stage of transition, they're probably thinking that the current team needs to prove themselves further in a more sustained fashion before blowing another wad again).
2. Conversely, spend big, they don't perform, fans then get annoyed with the club saying how they have a poor scouting team/spent poorly etc etc.
Though some clubs seem to have money enough where such mistakes aren't that detrimental (ie: they can go out and throw the same silly money at the next 'better' player.
But in this scenario, fans then clamour why the club spent so much money on big flops and couldn't find cheap targets that could blossom.
bottomline, you can't satisfy everybody and someone's always got something to complain about.
Much like an Asian wedding - there's always a critic around.
but then if they don't perform well, you can always convince yourself, ah well, that's what we paid for anyway.
Then again, when the club spends peanuts, and even though a rare gem is found, fans also argue - why the club is skint and not spending enough money on the big name signings (Look, i don't think the Glazers are being stingy here, considering they backed ETH at the start of the season, but still being in a stage of transition, they're probably thinking that the current team needs to prove themselves further in a more sustained fashion before blowing another wad again).
2. Conversely, spend big, they don't perform, fans then get annoyed with the club saying how they have a poor scouting team/spent poorly etc etc.
Though some clubs seem to have money enough where such mistakes aren't that detrimental (ie: they can go out and throw the same silly money at the next 'better' player.
But in this scenario, fans then clamour why the club spent so much money on big flops and couldn't find cheap targets that could blossom.
bottomline, you can't satisfy everybody and someone's always got something to complain about.
Much like an Asian wedding - there's always a critic around.
Here in Spain it is said that Zubimendi will go to Arsenal for €60M in summer.
We didn't know the secret handshake
The flip side to that is a Phil Jones whose contract has protected him. Why shouldn’t a contract protect the club too?
We have been linked with him for two weeks now. To be honest I don't care about any potential summer moves, we need a quality midfielder right now.
Of course he was.
State of some of you!
Comes as no surprise as a large portion of fans are clueless and only parrot the views and opinions of others without ever thinking about things rationally. Not a single one of these players want to stay at these clubs once a bigger club comes calling. Two decades ago they would go for £10m but now instead the smaller clubs are getting nearly £70m a piece for anyone.. Because bigger clubs are daft enough to constantly throw those sums around.
This idiotic transfer policy that this sport has been swept in is a big reason many of these lesser clubs even survive in a time where many of these clubs are going through financial issues. They sign players for very low fees and sell them for astronomical fees. They make massive profits and it only benefits them as I said earlier in the post every single one of those players have amibitions to play for bigger clubs anyway and don't want to stay at these clubs no matter how you spin it. The moment a big clubs come calling they all either put in transfer requests or goes on a strike. Here we have Brighton whom if they sell Caicedo have cashed in nearly £200m from 3 player sales but according to some it is sad...
I assume you were also sad for Leicester when they got £80m for Maguire? Let's have a minute of silence for them..
Comes as no surprise as a large portion of fans are clueless and only parrot the views and opinions of others without ever thinking about things rationally. Not a single one of these players want to stay at these clubs once a bigger club comes calling. Two decades ago they would go for £10m but now instead the smaller clubs are getting nearly £70m a piece for anyone.. Because bigger clubs are daft enough to constantly throw those sums around.
This idiotic transfer policy that this sport has been swept in is a big reason many of these lesser clubs even survive in a time where many of these clubs are going through financial issues. They sign players for very low fees and sell them for astronomical fees. They make massive profits and it only benefits them as I said earlier in the post every single one of those players have amibitions to play for bigger clubs anyway and don't want to stay at these clubs no matter how you spin it. The moment a big clubs come calling they all either put in transfer requests or goes on a strike. Here we have Brighton whom if they sell Caicedo have cashed in nearly £200m from 3 player sales but according to some it is sad...
I assume you were also sad for Leicester when they got £80m for Maguire? Let's have a minute of silence for them..
Yes he was. But according to Ten Hag, Antony told Ajax in February he is leaving in the summer and they knew that. They were gready and I think both should be blamed how it went.
I think when a player is under contract with a club going on a strike and not showing up for training when a bigger club makes a bid is very unprofessional and only the players can be held responsible for that not the clubs.
But it is a part of modern football, the sense of entitlement and unprofessionalism so it comes as absolutely no surprise and actually is becoming something common..
Love the captain hindsight lot saying why didn't we go in when he was cheaper.
Do they say that for the 50-60 players signed by prem clubs each year who don't then show they're outstanding?
Do they moan when we actually do get in on someone, but then loan them down the tiers?
It's not as easy on championship manager.
Do they say that for the 50-60 players signed by prem clubs each year who don't then show they're outstanding?
Do they moan when we actually do get in on someone, but then loan them down the tiers?
It's not as easy on championship manager.
He is a cracking player, both Barca and Real were linked with him as well. He is very similar to busqets. It's a shame he don't want to move in Jan, in summer there will be other teams in the mix as well.
He is a player who plays at the first touch and very good positionally.
Xavi asked to sign him this summer but Barcelona does not have FFP.
Because our club was/is run by morons. Obviously except the coaching staff.
United scouted him in the 2 group games. We will be after him too.
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