Morgan Rogers

His technique is too erratic to be a feasible signing for Utd. Excellent athlete, strikes the ball beautifully, but his first touch and passing is flawed, that gets exposed when he goes up a level.
 
Don't need this type of signing - just a distraction from our key needs in central midfield, another striker, and a left back. If fans are already cooling on Mbeumo for blowing hot and cold, why would we want to add another who's even more prone to the same?
 
Rolaholic said:
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He’s a good player but we’ve got Cunha and Dorgu already on the left with JJ Gabriel apparently being slowly introduced into the first team with some minutes next season then we’ve got Bruno and Mount as 10’s with Jack Fletcher coming through so Rogers has no place especially at the price he’d cost.
 
Swedish_Plumber said:
Wouldn’t have Rogers over anyone in that front 3 currently (cunha,sesko,mbuemo).

Dont think we should go for either though.
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I think he shades it over Cunha but yeah its close enough. The main things would be that hes 23 and English, he has more time till his peak and as he improves his value will shoot up due to being from this country.

Of course you could argue that it doesnt matter if his value swells up because we wouldnt be willing to sell him at that point. It would more-so be a thing that his status has grown and maybe he's become one of the main players England rely on

Edit - Think hes better than Mbeumo as a winger but I dont think he'd be the solution at rightwing either. Think hes better on the left.
 
pascell said:
Jacobs putting 2 and 2 together with the links to Wilcox/Carrick.

For £80m, I hope we steer well clear.
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Yeah don't trust a word of TUS twerker, much like Palmer he is a signing you add when you have built the cake
 
I’m all for stock piling. Sign him and move Mount and Zirkzee on. These guys hardly get minutes and we’ve more games atleast we can trial him as a Bruno replacement. If it doesn’t work out he’s young enough to sell on whilst still holding decent value.

I’m sure Newcastle will have him.
 
Uncle Mainoo said:
I’m all for stock piling. Sign him and move Mount and Zirkzee on. These guys hardly get minutes and we’ve more games atleast we can trial him as a Bruno replacement. If it doesn’t work out he’s young enough to sell on whilst still holding decent value.

I’m sure Newcastle will have him.
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Won't be easy moving on Mount when on £250k a week
 
croadyman said:
Yeah don't trust a word of TUS twerker, much like Palmer he is a signing you add when you have built the cake
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Palmer, Rogers, Gibbs-White are the signing you simply don't make as a Starters for big money and silly wages if you have ambition for league and Champions league in near future , these are players who are good as rotational options as their best work is mostly done in transition and we have plenty of those already .

We need to add players who have guile and are secured in their play while also capable of unlocking deep sitting and stubborn defenses .
 
gajender said:
Palmer, Rogers, Gibbs-White are the signing you simply don't make as a Starters for big money and silly wages if you have ambition for league and Champions league in near future , these are players who are good as rotational options as their best work is mostly done in transition and we have plenty of those already .

We need to add players who have guile and are secured in their play while also capable of unlocking deep sitting and stubborn defenses .
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How do you know for certain that none of those can be key players in winning the big two trophies, actually if you are so sure about it then how about giving me some REALISTIC names who can do that?
 
gajender said:
Palmer, Rogers, Gibbs-White are the signing you simply don't make as a Starters for big money and silly wages if you have ambition for league and Champions league in near future , these are players who are good as rotational options as their best work is mostly done in transition and we have plenty of those already .

We need to add players who have guile and are secured in their play while also capable of unlocking deep sitting and stubborn defenses .
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Like Odagaard?

I mean how much players like this do we need? In reality we just need a CM who can add balance.. not a full squad of Barcelona 2009. Game changers will get you enough points in this league. We seen that under Ole.. but again we failed to fix the midfield.
 
croadyman said:
How do you know for certain that none of those can be key players in winning the big two trophies, actually if you are so sure about it then how about giving me some REALISTIC names who can do that?
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I have seen them play simple they aren't the players who keep the ball in final third and put consistent pressure on set defenses before finding the opening , they excel when games are stretched and they can play on transition , but as you progress and want to become a team that regularly breach 80 points mark you will find more and more teams that are happy to sit back and starve you of space and I don't think any of them has the skill set to influence games regularly when faced with that kind of oppostion week in week out.
 
Uncle Mainoo said:
Like Odagaard?

I mean how much players like this do we need? In reality we just need a CM who can add balance.. not a full squad of Barcelona 2009. Game changers will get you enough points in this league. We seen that under Ole.. but again we failed to fix the midfield.
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What do you mean how many we don't have single player of this ilk and what we Saw under Ole was the limitation of this kind of strategy and only once we have achieved points total of more 74 points since Sir Alex retirement and have struggled more often than not to score goal while conceding plenty it's just not the midfield problem it's structural problem we have created by targeting the wrong profile of players which seriously limits the ceiling of the team .

It seems most want to continue on that path .
 
gajender said:
What do you mean how many we don't have single player of this ilk and what we Saw under Ole was the limitation of this kind of strategy and only once we have achieved points total of more 74 points since Sir Alex retirement and have struggled more often than not to score goal while conceding plenty it's just not the midfield problem it's structural problem we have created by targeting the wrong profile of players which seriously limits the ceiling of the team .

It seems most want to continue on that path .
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Context matters, so I understand why your saying. But. aside from a Pep Guardiola City, who actually plays recycle football and wins the league?

Liverpool didn’t play that way, so it can work—but only with the right profiles. I don’t think we’re built for it right now. We don’t have enough of those players to make the switch without another overhaul.

As for your question: Amad, Zirkzee, Mount, and Mainoo fit—but only two usually start. Ideally, you’d want 3–4 of those profiles in the XI.

Realistically, we just need a midfielder who lets Kobbie push higher. That still doesn’t affect going for Morgan Rogers.

In fairness complete what Amorim ideally wanted. Wide players to isolate fullbacks. Only difference not at the cost of adding another CB.
 
Uncle Mainoo said:
Context matters, so I understand why your saying. But. aside from a Pep Guardiola City, who actually plays recycle football and wins the league?

Liverpool didn’t play that way, so it can work—but only with the right profiles. I don’t think we’re built for it right now. We don’t have enough of those players to make the switch without another overhaul.

As for your question: Amad, Zirkzee, Mount, and Mainoo fit—but only two usually start. Ideally, you’d want 3–4 of those profiles in the XI.

Realistically, we just need a midfielder who lets Kobbie push higher. That still doesn’t affect going for Morgan Rogers.

In fairness complete what Amorim ideally wanted. Wide players to isolate fullbacks. Only difference not at the cost of adding another CB.
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If we buy Rogers our attack would be Cunha ,mbeumo , Rogers , Bruno all of them while good players are mostly effective in open spaces and in transition that's not the attack that's gonna take your team from high 60 points to high 80 points even with better midfield .
 
I would be confident that we have no interest in signing this bloke whatsoever!
 
gajender said:
If we buy Rogers our attack would be Cunha ,mbeumo , Rogers , Bruno all of them while good players are mostly effective in open spaces and in transition that's not the attack that's gonna take your team from high 60 points to high 80 points even with better midfield .
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Why? Amad is good in tight spaces. He’s hardly been giving us Lio Messi performance even Mahrez. With the players you’ve named and a balanced midfield that’s 15 g/a for all of them. 15 g/an across 4 players is 70+ points.
 
Uncle Mainoo said:
Why? Amad is good in tight spaces. He’s hardly been giving us Lio Messi performance even Mahrez. With the players you’ve named and a balanced midfield that’s 15 g/a for all of them. 15 g/an across 4 players is 70+ points.
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I had high hopes for Amad but he seemed to have gone backwards and again you are missing the point how is it sustainable that a frontline with average cost per player over 65 m our expectation is just 70+ points .

It would mean they again need to be upgraded for Us to progress which again would cost big money ..
 
gajender said:
I had high hopes for Amad but he seemed to have gone backwards and again you are missing the point how is it sustainable that a frontline with average cost per player over 65 m our expectation is just 70+ points .

It would mean they again need to be upgraded for Us to progress which again would cost big money ..
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You don’t know what next season will be like. You have to be honest. Arsenal cannot continue to play like they’ve played this season. Man City - we don’t know if Pep is staying or Rodrigo. Even if they both stay, the don’t have the same calibre of players like previously. I won’t even bother mentioning Chelsea who are in their Ed Woodward era of club runnings.

Providing we have a stable squad of players and the tactics are not complicated. We can compete. How it transfers to being dominate and being a force in Europe. Well that’s another question. Which will require more money. But if we continue to build correctly. Who knows.
 
If you watch him and currently see an £80m player, transfer fees are completely distorted for you.

Has his moments but is mostly anonymous. His moments may look spectacular when they come off, but what he currently is is not worth even £70m. You can see why Villa might think so, but in a open market you take that money elsewhere.
 
If Villa don't blow CL qualification, I don't see the point in anyone trying to sign him. Especially at £80mil. He might as well stay at Villa and start every CL game they play.

Utd must be looking at players at LW as allegedly we have scouts at the Milan v juventus game to look at Rafael Leao
 
Swedish_Plumber said:
Wouldn’t have Rogers over anyone in that front 3 currently (cunha,sesko,mbuemo).

Dont think we should go for either though.
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Agree, signing makes no sense when add Amad, Lacey even Mount and others like Gabriel progressing. Been excellent for Villa but personally crazy throwing that kind of money
 
Finished today with twice as many possession losses (22) as completed passes (11).
Completed those 11 at a 55% success rate.

Somebody's getting mugged this summer.
 
Martial'sEmergingSmile said:
Finished today with twice as many possession losses (22) as completed passes (11).

Completed those 11 at a 55% success rate.

Somebody's getting mugged this summer.
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I don't think he could have done much more today, he looked like the only attacker who gave a shit and was regularly doubled up on.
 
Cunha is streets ahead. Why would we want him.
 
He’s an incredibly hot and cold player and looks crap when he’s not allowed to cut inside and L1 O it.
 
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