MOTD 2022/2023

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Weirdly enough, it was the lack of replays that bothered me most. The penalty given against Spurs was a decision that I wasn't totally convinced by on initial viewing, and yet MOTD only showed one quick replay of it. It was like the entire show was intentionally badly edited.

They should've just pulled the plug on it this weekend. Why bother televising a show if you're well aware the content is going to be shoddy?
Yeah this. I actually like no commentary.

Also they couldn't be bothered to show the starting lineups? What's with that? They could have played the intro also.

It could've been fairly decent but they went out of their way to make it extra shit.
 

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Yeah this. I actually like no commentary.

Also they couldn't be bothered to show the starting lineups? What's with that? They could have played the intro also.

It could've been fairly decent but they went out of their way to make it extra shit.
Yeah, I don't know why they did that.

The presenter / multiple pundit roles aren't really all that important, and I think they get way too much on screen time on MOTD anyway. So they could still have had a good show without them if they'd done the usual things like showing line ups and replays.

If they'd have done all that, and had commentators, I'd have actually preferred a 50 minute highlight show like that - with the usual quality of match footage - than an hour and a half-hour show with just the same amount of footage but almost an extra half taken up with the hosts and pundits and their 'banter'.

Doing it this shit way makes it look like the hosts and pundits are the crucial element to the show being good. They aren't. They're mostly dispensable. But omitting all the important things - line ups, replays, commentators, etc - really does make it a shit show.
 
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saw two minutes of it this morning - didn't work at all for me. I need a commentator to point out repeatedly that Liverpool lost to the side at the bottom of the table before kick off and looked truly awful!
 

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Show reached 3.3 million people - thats less than the normal 5 million they get. But that's understandable as the show was on for less time so less people had a chance to tune in

For average audience of 2.7 million (generally whats reported), it was down 5% on the yearly average
 

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Don’t know if this is the wrong thread, but look it’s obvious that such a programme has huge investment of skill and knowledge, in directing, editing, producing and of course presentation and punditry. Lineker is one of the best. I didn’t like him as a footballer but he’s highly likeable on TV.

But I’m far more interested in the effect of this affair on the Tories, on their insane immigration policy. And yes, the ball came off his shin and hit the post. But fair play to Gary L, he is turning away with arms raised having bundled the ball into the back of that particular net.
 

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Show reached 3.3 million people - thats less than the normal 5 million they get. But that's understandable as the show was on for less time so less people had a chance to tune in

For average audience of 2.7 million (generally whats reported), it was down 5% on the yearly average
also I'd bet quite a few tuned in just to see what it was like. willing to bet numbers would drop further if they did it again
 

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Gary needs to present in his pants again next time to get the viewing figures up.
 

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I watched it, I liked it, a few things could of made it better but no chatter between the games was great.
Hopefully be abit longer next time, perhaps line ups at the start.
 

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I watched it, I liked it, a few things could of made it better but no chatter between the games was great.
Hopefully be abit longer next time, perhaps line ups at the start.
I think the guys who do the graphics like line-ups, might also have been backing GL. Also some serious calls to Stephen Nolan's late 5Live show pointed out that without some sort of description, visually impaired fans were left with nothing
 

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That seems a bit of a stretch. If the commentators are, in effect, on strike, then how are they meant to provide audio description if no one will do it without becoming a scab?

Just out of interest, how does the BBC 'not providing audio description for blind licence fee payers' work with silent films? Do they just avoid showing them altogether?
 

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It's extremely deceiving how this works

Average Audience is based on the length of the program and the reach and how long people watch

Yesterday's show was on for 20 mins compared to the normal 80 mins or so. So naturally the average will be high because there is a much shorter time period

An average of 2.6 million over 80 minutes is better than an average of the same over 20 minutes

However, as it's BBC it's fine. They aren't reliant on advertising so for them it's a win
 

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Just out of interest, how does the BBC 'not providing audio description for blind licence fee payers' work with silent films? Do they just avoid showing them altogether?
I haven’t watched the bbc in a while either, but you must hold some sort of record!
 

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Eh? What was nor to like about the footballer?
There's always 'valid' reasons, to them, why some may not like a player that others do (one man's meat is another man's poison, etc)

Liverpool and Arsenal fans may dislike him because he played for Everton and Spurs. Some may not like goal hangers who don't do much unselfish work for the team. Others who saw him may think he got away with a lot because he somehow managed to avoid a yellow or red card throughout his entire career - although that might overlap with his goal hanging / lack of unselfish defensive work?
 
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That seems a bit of a stretch. If the commentators are, in effect, on strike, then how are they meant to provide audio description if no one will do it without becoming a scab?

Just out of interest, how does the BBC 'not providing audio description for blind licence fee payers' work with silent films? Do they just avoid showing them altogether?
Legacy films aren't subject to accessibility requirements. It'll be hard to justify that no-one in the BBCs employment could have "filled" in given that, on occasion, the BBC allows not football specialists to host the programme.
 

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Legacy films aren't subject to accessibility requirements. It'll be hard to justify that no-one in the BBCs employment could have "filled" in given that, on occasion, the BBC allows not football specialists to host the programme.
Ah, thanks. I thought there must be some exceptions to that rule around certain situations.
 

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I watched it, I liked it, a few things could of made it better but no chatter between the games was great.
Hopefully be abit longer next time, perhaps line ups at the start.
I actually agree. It highlighted how little most punditry actually contributes. As if last Sunday's game at JuAnfield could fail to remind us of that.

Get the lineups and commentary back, extend the game highlights and it'll actually be better than it has been.
 

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Strange how not a single one of our penalty shouts today were shown, nor was the foul on garnacho that left him in a protective boot.
 

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Yeah, I don't know why they did that.

The presenter / multiple pundit roles aren't really all that important, and I think they get way too much on screen time on MOTD anyway. So they could still have had a good show without them if they'd done the usual things like showing line ups and replays.

If they'd have done all that, and had commentators, I'd have actually preferred a 50 minute highlight show like that - with the usual quality of match footage - than an hour and a half-hour show with just the same amount of footage but almost an extra half taken up with the hosts and pundits and their 'banter'.

Doing it this shit way makes it look like the hosts and pundits are the crucial element to the show being good. They aren't. They're mostly dispensable. But omitting all the important things - line ups, replays, commentators, etc - really does make it a shit show.
Same with football. Goalposts and ref are a bit of a waste of time.
 

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Very strange the way they did it. I don't understand it?

They could have showed all the games a usual with line ups, commentary, replays etc and it would have been great. They made it incredibly shit and pretty unwatchable....... Which has now strengthened the position of the the studio pundits. A very odd way to play the situation.

Even if professional commentators refused, they could have used fan commentary something? There were so many ways to do it to get the upper hand and they completely blew it
 

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I didn't watch it - for obvious reasons - but didn't Lineker present the Man City FA Cup game hours earlier on the BBC?

So pretty obvious he couldn't present MOTD as well a few hours later as that requires rehearsals, etc.