Mount: Man Utd can win the league next season

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BBC: "I've won the Champions League already, so I have a goal of winning the Premier League. Can we do that? Yes, I think we can. It may seem a little bit far away, but you must have that mentality to really push yourself as a group. We've shown what we can do against the big teams already; Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal, so we've done it. Now it's about doing it on a bigger stage in the Champions League and doing it more consistently in the Premier League. Hopefully, I will be a massive part of that moving forward next season. It's a goal: I want to win the Premier League."

Recently we've seen Bruno reportedly waiting to see what the club do in the market before committing to next season as he wants a viable chance to win a major trophy. We've seen Maguire talk about major reinforcements in the summer after signing his contract. And obviously Berrada has that project 2028 or whatever it's called.

This all suggests that either there is collective delusion at the club or we're going to see major investment in top quality this summer.

"He's been brilliant for me," he said of Carrick.
"As a midfielder, I looked up to him when he played. He was an absolute maestro which is something I've always looked to do.
"It was difficult at the beginning because Michael came in and I got injured, so I missed a few games.
"But he said: 'I want you back, you're a massive part of the team and when you're around the lads you obviously have a big effect', so I know where I stand within the group.
"It's not my call but I really like the way he works; the way he sees the game.
"He's very level-headed. Very calm, very knowledgeable about the game.
"He knows what he wants going into games. He will do his analysis on the opposition and talk us through it on the pitch.
"We're in a really good place. You can see that from the way we play and how we've performed since he's been in.
"Even in big games where we've probably written off a little bit, we've come up with massive performances that have really kicked us on."
Mount may only have watched Carrick from a distance before but he knew all about his assistant Steve Holland from working with him at Chelsea and England.
In a coaching team relatively light on experience, Holland seems to be the glue that keeps it together.
Mount is a huge fan, and recalls a story from the early days of Carrick's reign - his first two matches were against Manchester City and Arsenal - as an example of what the 55-year-old brings.
"He's got such a football brain," he said.
"If he sees something, he'll know what to say, and he's not afraid to say it.
"In either the first or second game after they took charge, he was taking a team talk and saying: 'Look we're going to win – we're going to win this game.' That was the confidence from day one.
"There's probably not many in world football that have his resume and his experience, is there?
"Maybe he goes under the radar a little bit but he is very tactically astute.
"He's always there to give the gaffer a few tips on positionings or if he sees something that needs to get changed, he will say it.
"They're always talking, which is super important.
"The last game, I'm on the bench and the gaffer will come back and speak to Steve and get his opinion on things.
"It's been very clear. Everyone knows what they're needed to do."
 
If not for Amorim we could have won it this season. He’s not wrong.

As for next season, all of our moves this summer need to be right.
 
If not for Amorim we could have won it this season. He’s not wrong.

As for next season, all of our moves this summer need to be right.

He's a player who misses maybe two thirds of our matches, we have a very fragile collection of players and we're playing a season of 40 matches. To think we can actually win the league next season must at the very least be assuming the addition of 4-5 top players who can play 50 matches in a season.
 
'We'...?

Well now, isn't that a bit presumptuous, young ermm [checks article] Mount?

We've got to learn how to challenge for a title first before we can get back to winning one or two, and even if we did, our Invisible Mount would likely not qualify for any medal.
 
The Bruno Casemiro connection won't be here next season.

That's boosted us up the league.

We will probably also lack depth with Europe too.

If we top 3 next season that would be a great result to build from again, rounding out the squad with Bruno being at his probable late peak and we should absolutely no excuses be pushing for the title
 
The Bruno Casemiro connection won't be here next season.

That's boosted us up the league.

We will probably also lack depth with Europe too.

If we top 3 next season that would be a great result to build from again, rounding out the squad with Bruno being at his probable late peak and we should absolutely no excuses be pushing for the title

I agree. And reaching the QF in the CL. I think we should be aiming to reach for the high 70s or crack the 80 points in the league too (I cannot imagine the league will be as poor as this season).
 
I think it's extremely unlikely.

It's easy to say we would have challenged this season if not for Amorim, but:

- We have absolutely zero guarantee on how the points returns we've seen under Carrick would have held for a full season.
- We had the big benefit of only having the league to focus on, which is particularly useful for a team with notable drop off in quality outside the first eleven. That advantage doesn't exist next year.
- The context is a remarkably poor showing from many of the other top sides in the league. Several of whom had been disappointing while Amorim was in charge, and almost all of whom then dropped off even further in terms of points per game after Amorim was sacked. There's no reason to think the standard we're competing against can't/won't increase next season.

If we manage to finish in the CL places again next season, this time while having our squad depth tested across multiple competitions, I would consider that progress.
 
Good one Mount. Mind staying fit for a whole season first and actually provide competition to other players? Cause you know..... winning the title requires a squad with contributions from multiple players.
 
'We'...?

Well now, isn't that a bit presumptuous, young ermm [checks article] Mount?

We've got to learn how to challenge for a title first before we can get back to winning one or two, and even if we did, our Invisible Mount would likely not qualify for any medal.
Bit of a disrespectful take. He's our player and wants us to win the league, stop being pedantic.

Ive got a lot of time for Mount, hes a proper professional and every coach takes to him very well which is a great signal of how he must be as a player, in the dressing room and in his work ethic. He's just had terrible luck with injuries, but I stand with him, he's one of ours.
 
Nah. This season we had a chance with the fixtures. It's a different world next season with European football again. Long way to go to win the league.

What would have to happen for us to win the league IMO:
  • Tchouameni signs as the DM as he's a game changer quality wise, in addition to probably 5 signings around the squad that are all hits
  • We sign a top winger to add to the group
  • We have a flawless fitness record (better than this season's), across the whole squad, despite an extra 15 games being added (especially De Ligt)
  • We somehow keep this set piece threat up without Casemiro
  • Sesko, Amad, Mainoo make big jumps that they are capable of, but probably not something we expect just yet
  • City don't step up compared to this season
 
Bit of a disrespectful take. He's our player and wants us to win the league, stop being pedantic.

Ive got a lot of time for Mount, hes a proper professional and every coach takes to him very well which is a great signal of how he must be as a player, in the dressing room and in his work ethic. He's just had terrible luck with injuries, but I stand with him, he's one of ours.

Agreed, very weird tone in this thread against Mount, as if he’s got injured on purpose. It’s not like you can control whether you get injured or not.
 
Agreed, very weird tone in this thread against Mount, as if he’s got injured on purpose. It’s not like you can control whether you get injured or not.
He's contributed nothing, taken a fortune out in wages, and this was obviously going to happen from when he signed. Not all his fault of course, but the sooner he is gone from the club, the better. He'd be classed as one of the worst signings in the club's history, pound for pound, if only everyone remembered that he was still on the books.
 
'We'...?

Well now, isn't that a bit presumptuous, young ermm [checks article] Mount?

We've got to learn how to challenge for a title first before we can get back to winning one or two, and even if we did, our Invisible Mount would likely not qualify for any medal.
Who pissed in your cornfflakes? Such a strange reaction.
 
Agreed, very weird tone in this thread against Mount, as if he’s got injured on purpose. It’s not like you can control whether you get injured or not.
Sure it's not like he got injured on purpose but he's been out injured for huge chunks every season he's been here. And even when fit it's not like he contributed much. This is his 3rd season now with us, played in 69 matches, 2688 minutes(not even a full season's worth of minutes in 3 seasons!) and has 7 goals and 2 assists in those 3 seasons. He's being paid 250k, maybe 200k with no CL for that level of availability and impact.

This kind of sentimentality has got us nowhere. Talk is cheap, we have seen countless number of our players come out with this kind of talk. If the club is really serious about title challenge and winning the title, players like Mount should be moved out as soon as possible.

Yeah, he could turn it around, stay fit, barely getting injured and starts contributing goals and assists every game but that would be akin to a miracle after what we've seen in these 3 years. If the club is basing its decisions on those kind of miracles happening then I've no hope.
 
The hurdle is high, and the loss of Casemiro will be painful, but if we can get it right with the manager, two central midfielders, a left back, a backup striker, Mount being reasonably fit for an entire season, De Ligt returning fit and Martinez resisting the urge to resorting to violence and viciousness on the pitch and Lacey coming through as advertised — and I realize that’s a lot of if’s — we absolutely can put in proper major trophy runs.
 
I think the probability is very very low and requires a lot of things to fall into place. We need to sign at least 5-6 top players who perform from the start, sign a manager who can also immediately deliver and hope our rivals don't massively improve. I personally think we are still quite far.
 
That pretty much him saying that Carrick is the manager next season.

Maybe the players are capable of seeing a managers abilities better than us. :rolleyes:
 
As I said in the Casemiro thread we'd be battling for Europa league if it wasn't for him in the air and last gasp Sesko goals. Neither of which are sustainable so we badly need to get things right in the market this summer. I'd be happy if we make top 4 again next season, consolidate and add more really good players in 2027. Things are on the up in general and the buzz around the club is great but it feels like we've been in a perfect storm this season since Carrick has come in.

How will the players respond without Casemiro or if Bruno goes off the boil? I'm glad the players are enjoying it and are positive but 90% of this squad is still off the required standard on current form and fitness

I'm very glad we've finally got our shit together on set pieces
 
There has been a small window with both liverpool and city in transition, but we’ve seen that even an imperfect city is still good enough to win it. Unfortunately, city will invest big in midfield this summer making our chances even harder. If they hit on Anderson and possibly Tonali as well, then winning the league may not be a realistic goal next season given we aren’t likely to invest as heavily as everyone would like into signings this summer.

Realistically to challenge on all fronts we need 3 midfielders, left sided attacker, LB, experienced striker and CB. That’s a lot and I’m not sure Wilcox will be able to deliver.
 
Nah. This season we had a chance with the fixtures. It's a different world next season with European football again. Long way to go to win the league.

What would have to happen for us to win the league IMO:
  • Tchouameni signs as the DM as he's a game changer quality wise, in addition to probably 5 signings around the squad that are all hits
  • We sign a top winger to add to the group
  • We have a flawless fitness record (better than this season's), across the whole squad, despite an extra 15 games being added (especially De Ligt)
  • We somehow keep this set piece threat up without Casemiro
  • Sesko, Amad, Mainoo make big jumps that they are capable of, but probably not something we expect just yet
  • City don't step up compared to this season
Amad is turning 24, it’s time to make the jump and we’ll have to see greater returns next season.
 
Bit of a disrespectful take. He's our player and wants us to win the league, stop being pedantic.

Ive got a lot of time for Mount, hes a proper professional and every coach takes to him very well which is a great signal of how he must be as a player, in the dressing room and in his work ethic. He's just had terrible luck with injuries, but I stand with him, he's one of ours.
Yep. Guy does a interview and says some good positive stuff (though personally i'd prefer our players keeping quiet and rather showing it on the pitch but that's me and there's nothing wrong with what he's said) and gets injury comments and other negative stuff thrown at him. Very odd.
 
Carrick and Holland are decent chaps, but they're still in shackles of relying mostly on one player, and his genius.

Let the talented kids grow and bulk up more, and let's sell big before signing even bigger... and we have loads to sell before even jumping where Arsenal currently are.

'Watch this space' won't fly this time.
 
Carrick and Holland are decent chaps, but they're still in shackles of relying mostly on one player, and his genius.

Let the talented kids grow and bulk up more, and let's sell big before signing even bigger... and we have loads to sell before even jumping where Arsenal currently are.

'Watch this space' won't fly this time.
This is just batshit thinking. Our build up play, possession play, and defensive setup has comes leaps and bounds since Carrick came in. Our fan base doesn’t deserve success honestly.
 
If not for Amorim we could have won it this season. He’s not wrong.

As for next season, all of our moves this summer need to be right.
I don't think so, we might have mounted a challenge but there's still major flaws in the team and a lot of our recent wins we where on the right side of a fine line.

We haven't had too many comfortable wins this season including under carrick. Once wr start winning games and controlling the game on a frequent basis then we can talk about titles.
 
This is just batshit thinking. Our build up play, possession play, and defensive setup has comes leaps and bounds since Carrick came in. Our fan base doesn’t deserve success honestly.
Our fanbase needs whole good season, not just bits and pieces, and when Carrick will have difficulties to deliver consistency, people will start throwing stones in matter of months.
 
Another top 3 finish and a good European stint is the realistic hope for next year alongside further squad development.

Year after should be fair game, whether mount is still around for that’s another story.
 
I would just like him to stay fit for the majority of next season. Dream a little smaller.
 
Adding European football and (hopefully) more domestic cup games next season is a massive, massive change from this one. We are not winning the league, unless we have a super ambitious and basically flawless transfer window.
 
The last 13 years, every time one of our players say this we freefall the next season.
 
While I appreciate the confidence, Mount has lost his mind if he believes this. I see a greater chance of us dropping out of the European places than there is of us winning the title next season. We've had great results under Carrick, but those results are an outlier based on our performances, eventually the results will become more reflective which will see a significant PPG drop off. On top of that we somehow look tired despite a historically short fixture list, throw in the rigours of European football next season and it's inevitable our form will suffer. We're also losing Casemiro who's been holding down the midfield by himself at times, while being an important source of goals and a huge aerial presence in both boxes.

If we have an extremely good summer transfer window, bringing in a couple of starting midfielders and fullbacks, then our chances improve, but even then the squad will be paper thin. It'll likely be years before we're properly challenging for the title again.
 
You would need:

-a godly set of summer signings; similar to Milan’s Dutch Connection;
- a massive uptick from what’s here;
- the next great manager;
- fortune with injuries;
- either the level of everyone else being as awful as this campaign, or us morphing into an 85pt+ team

So… I’ll have some of whatever Mason’s on and gladly cheers him if he’s right!
 
A lot would have to align for us to actually win the league including the performance of other clubs. I don't see it. More likely that we may challenge next season for a period of time, but I can't see how we have long term challenge that results in a title without excellent signings that bed in immediately and fit right into Carricks style.
 
If we were to get in Cole Palmer and Morgan Rogers from Villa, plus reinforce the back four, we'd be in with a real chance. It's a huge "if" though