Mourinho : "Transfer spend is not enough"

[KingMinger22]

We spent too thinly.

We need to invest big in quality not quantity.

 

[GM K]

Great post.

While I’d never deny Pep is doing a great job – Better than anyone in world football right now arguably – The idea that Mourinho has “failed” by comparison is such garbage. Any Utd fans peddling that should line should realise it’s stemming from the media and the fact that Mourinho and Utd are the most despised manager/club in the country. The same media that were ridiculously portraying Pep as a failure last season.

Mourinho has done remarkably well to get us to where we are now. We missed the top 4 in the worst PL season in recent history – Falling behind a City side who genuinely mailed in the last half of the season with a lame duck manager. The squad had De Gea, Martial and very little else. Rooney was still an ever present.

Objectively Pep inherited a far stronger side filled with world class players and has spent about 30% more on transfer fees. They’ve been the bookies favourites nearly every year since signing Aguero for good reason – They’ve been perennial underachievers in this era. There’s no logical reason at all that we should be better than them at this point and there won’t be until we actually match them. The fact that they’ll probably sign Sanchez to add to their already ridiculously talented attackers is hardly a great omen. Whatever Mourinho says he needs – We need to provide. We invested in him to win the league.

Spot on. Very balanced view.

 

[Eli Zee]

City squad was better than Man Utd squad when Jose took over IMO (sorry just opinion) so how can the squad that started off better receive more investment and this one be expected to overtake them.

with consistently good teamwork, a solid foundation at the back and good coaching .... and some lucky results for us/against them

 

[beingshe7don]

Jose came into his first season and bought
1. Pogba (89m which looked like a complete waste of money at first and we looked to have overpaid and now it seems like such bargain since we bought him at the age of 24 and he's' the player that we build our team around. There are lot of perks to getting Pogba. He draws world class players or potentially world class players here since they want to play with him. It was also marketed as the prodigal son returning. Either way, it is a fantastic buy)
2. Mhikitaryan (35m which also looked like a bargain since he was one of the best players/ assist-ers in the Bundesliga. He showed glimpses of greatness from time to time last season and a few times earlier this season. However, he seems to have lost the plot. A change in scenery would do good for him. I think we need to replace him)
3. Bailly (25m which was a very good deal since he was our best defender last season and his injuries this season has left us weak in defence. A very good buy indeed)
4. Ibrahimovic (free which was a very good buy since he was coming from a very good season with PSG and then he delivered in his very first season at United and scored 20+ goals in all competitions for us which wasn't the case for us for a while. He was important as he brought the winning mentality as well as self belief to achieve something. However, I think we should have ended things after this injury especially since we got Lukaku in)

Second season
5. Lukaku (75m which was a smart deal as well since he was scoring 20 goals in the league for the past 3/4 seasons and he's best mates with Pogba which kind of drives team chemistry. I think the best of Lukaku is yet to come and the key will be Pogba to have a injury free and suspension free season.)
6. Matic (30m was a great deal once again because he's PL proven and he was the missing link to free up Pogba. However, this hasn't really happened because our No. 10 hasn't been good enough and our defence hasn't been strong which has led Pogba to play deeper once again instead of playing more into the final third.)
7. Lindelof (20m for CB who hasn't really played well to begin with. He's had really bad games which has led us to drop points and so on but he'll get better. I'm sure the pressure to play in the PL and more so with United can be overwhelming. Since then he's kind of steadied his ship in the last couple of games although I do not think he's a great RB.

We spent 149m in our first season and then 125m in the second season in which one of our players (Mhiki) is playing horribly and (Ibra) hasn't regained his form since his injury. That's two players our of seven recruits that will most likely leave. I would say that Mhiki was the only flop out of all the players because Ibra was just a stop gap who did his job for the first season. Mourinho has done great in the transfer market so far. We obviously need a lot more players and he's right because we've still got deadwood in the form of Fellaini, Darmian, Blind, Smalling (I don't think he's good enough), Herrera (has forgotten how to play football). I would still keep Mata, Lingard, Rashford, Young as squad players. Martial will definitely be a superstar. He just needs to up another gear to elevate his performances. Valencia needs to be replaced as well.

Pogba, Lukaku, Martial, De Gea, Shaw, Valencia, Bailly, Matic need to feature in our first 11 or at the very least come of the bench. We still need other players to fill up other positions to keep up the pace with City.

 

[eat_grass]

1. Not sure what you are on about. Saying someone is afraid of failure and calling someone a specialist in failure are 2 different things are they not?

Okay, I'll explain it to you then: clearly isn't "afraid to fail" because he specializes in it. Get it? accused Mourinho of talking down his team's chances of winning because Mourinho was "afraid to fail." Mourinho fired back that if he's "afraid to fail" it's because he's not suited to failing. failing to win a trophy for ten straight years shows great acclimation to failing -- hence, no fear of failing. The point is was projecting, and Mourinho called him out on it with one of the most sublime digs I've ever heard from professionals: specialist in failure. Goddamn!

In any case Mourinho is involved in more petty spats with other managers than a Kardashian is involved in pointless celebrity feuds. The latest exchange with Conte is just embarassing and kind of pathetic when you realize it was started by Mourinho getting badly beaten at Stamford Bridge and having a fit. Fergie vs Wenger was never this childish and it was born from a real and brilliant rivalry.

He used to be arrogant, so it set off insecure managers like Rafa, , (and Conte recently), but not great managers like SAF. He's admitted part of it was his fault. But this Conte episode is not his fault. It was Conte getting played by the media, roped into a war of words with Mourinho, got himself wrecked by getting exposed for the match fixing fiasco, then mentally collapsed and called Mourinho and "little man."

3. Right so if he didnt lose the dressing room how did he go from champions to 16th place and one point above relegation when he was sacked?

Because he lost Hazard.

And not to mention Conte coming in and winning the league with his team the next season.

Last year Mourinho pointed out Conte succeeded in the League because of a lack of fixture congestion (unlike all other top-4 teams). Conte took exception to it, but this season he's been proved right: watch yesterday's press conference where Conte blames the draw against Leicester on player fatigue.

Losing fans is another matter god bless the Chelsea fans but they wouldn't realize a crisis if it came and sat on their faces.

Some of them are already calling for Conte's head -- and Marina's head, too. Too bad they don't have Emanolo to kick around anymore or they'd blame him as well. Pay more attention.

 

[Mastadon]

Okay, I'll explain it to you then: clearly isn't "afraid to fail" because he specializes in it. Get it? accused Mourinho of talking down his team's chances of winning because Mourinho was "afraid to fail." Mourinho fired back that if he's "afraid to fail" it's because he's not suited to failing. failing to win a trophy for ten straight years shows great acclimation to failing -- hence, no fear of failing. The point is was projecting, and Mourinho called him out on it with one of the most sublime digs I've ever heard from professionals: specialist in failure. Goddamn!



He used to be arrogant, so it set off insecure managers like Rafa, , (and Conte recently), but not great managers like SAF. He's admitted part of it was his fault. But this Conte episode is not his fault. It was Conte getting played by the media, roped into a war of words with Mourinho, got himself wrecked by getting exposed for the match fixing fiasco, then mentally collapsed and called Mourinho and "little man."



Because he lost Hazard.



Last year Mourinho pointed out Conte succeeded in the League because of a lack of fixture congestion (unlike all other top-4 teams). Conte took exception to it, but this season he's been proved right: watch yesterday's press conference where Conte blames the draw against Leicester on player fatigue.



Some of them are already calling for Conte's head -- and Marina's head, too. Too bad they don't have Emanolo to kick around anymore or they'd blame him as well. Pay more attention.

Not bothered to break it down. Mourinho has had countless spats with different managers across leagues where he behaves like a petty teenage girl. Wenger is a club legend who brought Arsenal through a stadium build when we were under severe financial restrictions and still managed to keep the club competitive. He could have joined any club he wanted but he chose to stay with Arsenal to see it through and this is a fact. If you lot went under similar financial restrictions for a few years Jose would be on the first bus out to PSG.

Calling Wenger a specialist in failure was a completely classless thing to do to a classy man. He did the same thing to Ranieri and in one of the most sublime cases of karma I have ever seen Mourinho was sacked in 1 point above the relegation zone on the same season Ranieri went on to life the PL with a team that cost a tiny fraction of Mourinho's team . God damn that was poetic .

So the difference between Chelsea winning a league title and finishing 16th and 1 point above relegation is all down to one player in Hazard.

Conte seems to be doing fine to me. Its Mourinho who looks under pressure and surly during press conferences. That nonsense about not celebrating goals is typical of moody Mourinho.

FWIW I used to think Mourinho was the best manager in the world from 04 - 12 but he seems to have lost something after Real Madrid. He's not as charming or charismatic and he used to be and his methods seems a bit outdated now. Will be interesting to see how his Utd career plays out.

I also firmly believe that if he had replaced SAF directly things would have turned out very differently (much better) for both Utd and Mourinho.

 

[eat_grass]

Calling Wenger a specialist in failure was a completely classless thing to do to a classy man.

Wenger started every spat. I don't know why he insisted on poking Mourinho. It made no sense.

Jose Mourinho has launched a stinging attack on Arsène Wenger, calling the Arsenal manager "a voyeur" and mocking his Premiership rival's poor start to the season by saying the Frenchman should speak less about Chelsea and concentrate on improving his own team's results.

Mourinho was clearly irritated by comments Wenger made on Friday when questioned about Chelsea's draw at Everton and Carling Cup defeat at home to Charlton. He has responded with his most fierce criticism to date of Wenger and claimed the Arsenal manager has shown he is worried about Chelsea.
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Wenger is consistently asked about Mourinho's team at his pre-match briefings and invariably offers an opinion. He has said several times that Chelsea are more vulnerable than their early-season results might suggest and has refused to rule his team out of the title race despite trailing their London rivals by 14 points.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2005/oct/31/newsstory.sport1

Conte has shown to be equally senseless in that regard. I guess that's my overarching point in all this.

He did the same thing to Ranieri and in one of the most sublime cases of karma I have ever seen Mourinho was sacked in 1 point above the relegation zone on the same season Ranieri went on to life the PL with a team that cost a tiny fraction of Mourinho's team . God damn that was poetic .

Lol, well played. But Mourinho already apologized for that anyway. That's what his wearing Ranieri's initials after his sacking represented.

He's not as charming or charismatic and he used to be and his methods seems a bit outdated now.

That's just because he's learned to hate the media. He used to look at it as a tool for manipulation, but has since lost any sympathy for their profession. Watch his mannerisms when he's training with the players -- he can't stop smiling! He's always going on about how much he loves this group of players. But the media have betrayed him too many times for him to want to charm them any more.