Myles Lewis-Skelly

Realistically a balanced squad needs players than can play multiple positions comfortably.

MLS can do this, has PL experience, no matter how brief, and fits a profile of possible sell on value too, so if the price is right, it's a smart move.
 
I'm not a big fan of players who are positionally ambiguous, it makes squad planning very difficult. Your signings depend on knowing the primary position of your players and the primary position of the other signings you make.

We need 3 midfielders and a left back this summer. Signing Lewis Skelly as our left back and finding out he's not really a left back and we need to try him in midfield is a bit of a disaster as we already made our midfield signings. Likewise signing him as a midfielder and finding out he was more suited to left back all along isn't great.

The other issue is as a left back he's inverting whereas I feel we'll benefit more from an overlapping attacking full back.

As a midfielder, has MLS shown he's got the passing range for it? Or is he just a good ball carrier? In Mainoo we already have a midfielder who's got a limited passing range for a midfielder.
Couldn't disagree more. I think every squad benefits from having 2-3 players that have versatility and the ability to plug gaps. In the past we've had the likes of O'Shea, Park and Rooney to some extent who could play multiple positions and offer us depth and tactical flexibility.

For me Lewis-Skelly would be a great signing at the right price (£30-40m max) and would provide us with good cover and a nice selection of options at LB alongside Shaw and Dorgu. With Shaw in his last year, we can basically use this season to hopefully nail down Dorgu's future position (which I personally will be at LB if he is to make it here), then see is either Leon or Amass are up for it.

Given our dire lack of depth at CM going into next season, we genuinely do need to add 3 players here. I struggle to see us doing this unless we find a 3rd signing on a free or very cheap like a Norgaard. Alongside LB, Lewis-Skelly offers us an additional CM option too, leaving us room to potentially go big on two CM signings (eg. 2 of Anderson, Wharton, Guimaraes, Fernandes) as well as a LW.
 
Couldn't disagree more. I think every squad benefits from having 2-3 players that have versatility and the ability to plug gaps. In the past we've had the likes of O'Shea, Park and Rooney to some extent who could play multiple positions and offer us depth and tactical flexibility.

For me Lewis-Skelly would be a great signing at the right price (£30-40m max) and would provide us with good cover and a nice selection of options at LB alongside Shaw and Dorgu. With Shaw in his last year, we can basically use this season to hopefully nail down Dorgu's future position (which I personally will be at LB if he is to make it here), then see is either Leon or Amass are up for it.

Given our dire lack of depth at CM going into next season, we genuinely do need to add 3 players here. I struggle to see us doing this unless we find a 3rd signing on a free or very cheap like a Norgaard. Alongside LB, Lewis-Skelly offers us an additional CM option too, leaving us room to potentially go big on two CM signings (eg. 2 of Anderson, Wharton, Guimaraes, Fernandes) as well as a LW.
There's the bonus of being versatile enough to fill a position that isn't your primary position, in case of emergency - that's obviously useful. There's also knowing for a fact the player you're signing can play multiple roles to a high standard as you've already seen it over a good sample size.

But then there's shelling out £50m on a relatively unproven player who you're not even sure whether he's a full back or midfielder. It just doesn't strike me as an efficient use of funds and we're not in a luxury position to be experimenting. Arteta demoted him to 3rd choice left back and I'm not even sure he's ever played midfield at senior level.

Standard depth is 2 players per position. I wouldn't be willing to leave ourselves short in terms of numbers and having players doubling up as cover for multiple positions, as it isn't sufficient depth for teams competing at Champions League level, and especially teams who have injury prone players like Shaw.

If we sign a left winger, Lewis Skelly and 2 midfielders - and therefore Dorgu's primarily covering LB now - it's technically sufficient in terms of numbers. But it really means Lewis Skelly will primarily get games in midfield next season as that's where we'd be short, as we'd be stacked at LB with Shaw and Dorgu competing for one spot. If we've scouted him well at youth level maybe, but would be a risk given he's never played a senior game in midfield, and as I questioned earlier, does he definitely have the passing range for it? Hard to say when he's never played there. Especially a concern when our only current midfielder for next season has limited passing range himself.
 
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Where do people reckon MLS will be cheap? We managed to get Heaven for a song, but MLS has played for England. Id be amazed if Arsenal don't put 60 mill on his head
 
Where do people reckon MLS will be cheap? We managed to get Heaven for a song, but MLS has played for England. Id be amazed if Arsenal don't put 60 mill on his head
Yeah the English premium on players is always even higher when they have played for senior team
 
The player looks really good IMO but I think the young man that was born in London and been on their books since he was 8yrs old to move to a club in the north of England would be a big step for a teenager as it is so different.
I cannot see it happening.
 
The player looks really good IMO but I think the young man that was born in London and been on their books since he was 8yrs old to move to a club in the north of England would be a big step for a teenager as it is so different.
I cannot see it happening.
How long was Ayden or Chido on their books?
 
His versatality is great fit for us, two positions we should look to strengthen and he is comfortable in both. He will definitely play more here than at arseanl. Unsure what arsenal will ask for him, but they have calafiori, hincapie, timber all ahead of him and i am sure arteta will buy another couple of defenders as he loves buying defenders.
 
He would be good as a versatile squad option but then we could probably do better in each position he occupies. I would also rather get a proper LB like Diouf. But if he is 35-40 mil and covers two positions it’s good buisness I guess.
 
Pretty sure they were at the end of their contracts whereas this young man has committed himself to a 5yr contract I believe
I think he meant that Chido and Heaven were with Arsenal a long time and they moved to United. He is a third choice LB at Arsenal and they need to trim their squad.
 
I think he meant that Chido and Heaven were with Arsenal a long time and they moved to United. He is a third choice LB at Arsenal and they need to trim their squad.
Makes me wonder why he had signed a long term contract then.
Usually that would mean the club has a long term plan for the player but if the club feel he is surplus then it should help the buying club price wise.
 
The player looks really good IMO but I think the young man that was born in London and been on their books since he was 8yrs old to move to a club in the north of England would be a big step for a teenager as it is so different.
I cannot see it happening.

He’s hardly signing for Oldham or Barrow! If countless Europeans and South Americans can adapt then why can’t a lad from London? Perhaps he should sign for Palace or Brentford and remain close to his roots rather than make a name for himself at the biggest club in the country, if not the world. Sorry but I think this is a bit of a nonsense view.
 
He’s hardly signing for Oldham or Barrow! If countless Europeans and South Americans can adapt then why can’t a lad from London? Perhaps he should sign for Palace or Brentford and remain close to his roots rather than make a name for himself at the biggest club in the country, if not the world. Sorry but I think this is a bit of a nonsense view.
He is not exactly with a minnow club at the moment and he is just into a 5yr contract and he is a home grown player.
There are a lot of advantages for him to stay where he is.
Hopefully you don't find this nonsensical.
 
Anyone watch him play in the Cup?
I see he was hooked on the hour mark.
 
Anyone watch him play in the Cup?
I see he was hooked on the hour mark.
No, but an Arsenal fan site match recap said he was dreadful:

"Myles Lewis-Skelly: arguably the most disappointing Arsenal player this season. Looks a shadow of the young man who burst onto the scene last year. He has hardly played and it would seem for good reason. He looks slow of foot and in decision-making".

https://theshortfuse.sbnation.com/f...tch-report-another-competition-bites-the-dust
 
No, but an Arsenal fan site match recap said he was dreadful:

"Myles Lewis-Skelly: arguably the most disappointing Arsenal player this season. Looks a shadow of the young man who burst onto the scene last year. He has hardly played and it would seem for good reason. He looks slow of foot and in decision-making".

https://theshortfuse.sbnation.com/f...tch-report-another-competition-bites-the-dust
Fair assessment of his performance.

Looks short of confidence compared to last season
 
Another Mainoo situation then. Second season syndrom with manager not willing to offer you more chance this season maybe due to pressure on him to win after got 2nd place the last 3 few seasons. With his ability though, can get get better in the future?
 
No, but an Arsenal fan site match recap said he was dreadful:

"Myles Lewis-Skelly: arguably the most disappointing Arsenal player this season. Looks a shadow of the young man who burst onto the scene last year. He has hardly played and it would seem for good reason. He looks slow of foot and in decision-making".

https://theshortfuse.sbnation.com/f...tch-report-another-competition-bites-the-dust
Looks like he will be given the same treatment as Baleba on here then.
 
Looks like he will be given the same treatment as Baleba on here then.
Fair play to Baleba, he does start, before being constantly hooked at half time!

Lots of players burst onto the scene and that’s as good as they ever will be.

A young player needs to play, so I’ll reserve judgement on him until he gets games.
 
Fair play to Baleba, he does start, before being constantly hooked at half time!

Lots of players burst onto the scene and that’s as good as they ever will be.

A young player needs to play, so I’ll reserve judgement on him until he gets games.
If he were playing, he'd certainly not be looking to move.
 
Anyone watch him play in the Cup?
I see he was hooked on the hour mark.
Thought he was mostly alright against a Championship side, but with moments of headfreeze and some wild missed passes. Looks a bit nervous and out of flow to me.

Ødegaard for instance had a similar level performance, being match rusty and lacking some assuredness innfront of goal. Ben White was not a patch on him.

I think comparisons to Mainoo and second season syndrome makes sense, as he seems to still have the tools, but is young and struggles to use them to the max currently.
 
The Arsenal-fans I have seen that are opposed to letting him leave are saying that he should be used in midfield because that's where he looks the best
 
The Arsenal-fans I have seen that are opposed to letting him leave are saying that he should be used in midfield because that's where he looks the best
What style of a midfielder is he?
Good progressive passer
Good ball carrier/ball winner
 
What style of a midfielder is he?
Good progressive passer
Good ball carrier/ball winner

No idea - never seen him play as a midfielder, but according to Arsenal-fans - he was a midfielder at lower levels, and thats where he is best
 
I'm not convinced he's the type of player we need.
 
What style of a midfielder is he?
Good progressive passer
Good ball carrier/ball winner
Whenever I've seen him (only a few times, admittedly) he's seemed a remarkably safe and uninspiring passer of the ball. Just tended to move it on quickly to whoever was nearest.
 
Whenever I've seen him (only a few times, admittedly) he's seemed a remarkably safe and uninspiring passer of the ball. Just tended to move it on quickly to whoever was nearest.

Mainoo backup.
 
What makes you think that?
No one seems to know what sort of midfielder he is unless you know something else?
Apparently he has fallen off a cliff form wise this season and it seems the trend on here is if a player has a loss of form then we are wise to steer clear.
 
Whenever I've seen him (only a few times, admittedly) he's seemed a remarkably safe and uninspiring passer of the ball. Just tended to move it on quickly to whoever was nearest.

You're not wrong - as per his stats I posted on the first page, he is in the 0th percentile for 'Forward Passes' and 'Progressive Passes' per 90. He plays the, or near enough the, fewest forward passes of any full-back in the PL.

Signing this guy at all seems daft. Signing him to play CM seems even more daft.

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/myles-lewis-skelly.491637/post-34145147
 
Would be a hell of a signing, a monster of a midfield talent. How they are wasting him at the back is a mystery to me. He'd be a better signing than these run of the mill, basic everyday midfielders that are being touted for big money. In these days of high pressing and counter pressing a player with his qualities is invaluable.
 
Would be a hell of a signing, a monster of a midfield talent. How they are wasting him at the back is a mystery to me. He'd be a better signing than these run of the mill, basic everyday midfielders that are being touted for big money. In these days of high pressing and counter pressing a player with his qualities is invaluable.
What qualities are they? Genuinely don't see anything beyond a fairly tidy squaddie. He has time on his side but that's about it. I'm sure he'll have a decent career at some midtable side eventually but from what I've seen he's not a starter for top sides
 
You're not wrong - as per his stats I posted on the first page, he is in the 0th percentile for 'Forward Passes' and 'Progressive Passes' per 90. He plays the, or near enough the, fewest forward passes of any full-back in the PL.

Signing this guy at all seems daft. Signing him to play CM seems even more daft.

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/myles-lewis-skelly.491637/post-34145147

Just to say, because he's not doing it at senior football does not necessarily mean he doesn't have the ability. I've seen it said he was progressive at youth level.

Young players can sometimes take time to express themselves and gain the confidence to play their to their full ability. Or he could need space that isn't there at senior football. You'd need to review tape to know.

We as fans usually build our opinions based on a limited idea of what is necessary to judge a player.
 
What qualities are they? Genuinely don't see anything beyond a fairly tidy squaddie. He has time on his side but that's about it. I'm sure he'll have a decent career at some midtable side eventually but from what I've seen he's not a starter for top sides
He’s probably the most press resistant teenager in the world.