Nathaniel Brown - left back target
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How good is he? Never seen him play
High potential and shouldn’t be highly expensive, we definitely a left back as Shaw is always going to be an injury worry and we don’t know if Dorgu is better suited at left back or as a left winger.
Very good, is more of an attacking full back with great ability on the ball with a good shot and pass. Defensively his high speed means he's pretty good one on one but positioning can be suspect.
Would love us to sign him but not sure of his partnership with Cunha, both of them on the left would be very attacking and defensively weak.
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I saw Davies from Bayern linked to us too. I feel like this would be the better deal
Edit: I realize that I worded this badly. I do not think Davies is a better deal, he’s over paid and repeatedly injured
Edit: I realize that I worded this badly. I do not think Davies is a better deal, he’s over paid and repeatedly injured
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Davies will never be the same player again, he cant run as fast anymore
Shawberto will be good for another season and we can see how Harry does in another loan spell next season and we have Leon in the u21s so no need to spend
No more injury prone players from Bayern please!
What happens if Shaw gets injured? We play Malacia?
Even in the unlikely event that Shaw stays fit for another year, I think we need a left back who can get up and down the pitch more than the 2026 version of him.
Especially with Cunha at LW, we need a more attacking fullback who can contribute width on that side. Maybe that can be Dorgu in certain games, but I wouldn't be against another option.
He’s on an enormous contract and seems to repeatedly breakdown physically. Shame, because his pace and running power was reminiscent of a prime Gareth Bale.
Dorgu obviously.
Thankfully Malacia will be gone at the end of the season!
Dorgu.
3 or 4 decent games as a winger doesn't mean his long-term future is as a winger. For me, he is very much still going to be a LB long-term but will be a useful, versatile player who can do a job further up the pitch and on the right flank too in certain situations or when needed.
I think he could be decent winger for a lesser team due to his physical attributes, but for a team aiming for titles he simply doesn't have the skill, guile or end product to be a top level winger/forward player IMO. At LB/LWB he showed really strong ability in his duels, but he does need to develop his positioning and concentration which only comes with coaching and experience.
That being said, we will need a new LB in 12 months time when Shaw's contract ends (no way we extend it IMO even if he has a decent season injury-wise), so I would be open to a LB signing if there is an opportunity eg. West Ham go down and Diouf is available at a decent price.
Dorgu isn't a LB but I'm sure he can play there. I don't think a club of our stature should settle for that.
Dorgu has always been a winger or wing back. His career didn't start at Man Utd. I'm sure he can do a job at left back, I'm not content on just settling for that - I'd rather we compete at the very top moving forward.
No he hasn't. The position he played most often at Lecce was LB.
And when he was being linked to other PL clubs before we signed him, it was also as a fullback. For example:
No he hasn't. The position he played most often at Lecce was LB.
And when he was being linked to other PL clubs before we signed him, it was also as a fullback. For example:
I think there was a Danish supporter here who suggested otherwise. Could be wrong though. He's also a winger for his country?
He's played at both fullback and winger for Denmark.
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Is he big, bad and has orange hair?
Having a left back who can actually get up and down the pitch, will amaze people as much as having a keeper who can claim a cross.
Frankfurt is not really known for selling cheap.
This time though it’s a high potential left back rather than a forward that’s had an anomaly season goal wise like they often sell for big money.
According to Bild, Frankfurt wants €65m for him. That's ridiculous and we should just avoid, imo. Is he even guaranteed to be a better LB than Dorgu? Need to factor in how he adapts to PL physically too like other fullbacks struggled with (Alex Telles, for instance)
There's two ways we can go with this. We need either a left winger or left back in the summer.
If we see Dorgu as primarily a winger competing with Cunha for that left wing slot, then sign a left back to compete with Shaw.
If we see Dorgu as primarily a left back competing with Shaw, then sign a left winger to compete with Cunha.
I'm not happy with Dorgu doubling up as both cover for our wings and left back with no signings in either area, that's nowhere near enough depth given Shaw's injury history and we'll be back in Europe next season.
How many of the best, say, 15 teams in Europe have a left-footed left-winger or right-footed right-winger in their best XI?
Raphinha is on the left for Barcelona but only because Yamal is on the right. Just seems unlikely to me that Dorgu isn't an LB long-term.
Raphinha is on the left for Barcelona but only because Yamal is on the right. Just seems unlikely to me that Dorgu isn't an LB long-term.
Dorgu’s played on the right aswell, that’s not the issue for me. He just lacks too many of the traits that you need to be played in attack at this level.
Just like for example Young and Valencia, he will eventually end up in a defensive role.
No he hasn't. The position he played most often at Lecce was LB.
And when he was being linked to other PL clubs before we signed him, it was also as a fullback. For example:
Surely you understand this says that he has played less than half his minutes at Lecce as LB? Fine if it was 60% but this also says he played more minutes as an attacker.
It's a tough one on Dorgu - I am not sure whether he is a LB or LW. I can see arguments for both.
I think when we are attacking at home sticking Dorgu at left back with attacking freedom would always be an interesting choice when he now know he's capable of this kind of excellent form. His versatility should see him in and around the team a lot over the next season or two. Let's see how he gets on!
It says the position he played more than any other was LB, appearing there significantly more than in any other individual position. Whereas the post I was responding to said he has always been a winger or wingback.
Also, it doesn't even say he played more minutes as an attacker. The fullback positions combined are slightly more than the attacking positions combined.
You do realise Young and Valencia did play in attacking positions at the top level?
For me Patrick Dorgu is a left back. And can develop into a great player.
Luke Shaw should be slowly phased out now. I'd go for someone like Malick Diouf.
They did, but they were never top level attackers but for in moments.
Valencia was amongst the best wingers in the world for a year or two
Yeah, but he clearly didn’t have the attributes to sustain it.
They played in attacking positions for Manchester United and won Premier League titles in the process
What do you classify as top level.....Ronaldo or Messi?
Obviously. Then you had the likes of Robben, Ribery, Bale, Hazard and probably more that I can’t remember at the moment.
I mean you wouldn’t claim Cleverley was a top midfielder, would you?