I don't know if he's Top 10 to be honest.
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On an other note, Caruso has been absolutely brilliant.
Jordan, LeBron, Kareem, Bill, Magic.... I think he is.
Shaq, Bird, Robertson, Olajuwon, Wilt, Duncan... could have a good argument for all of them, really.
Yeah, Duncan and Bird definitely. Over all of the rest for me though...
Brilliant defender, the amount of offensive plays he blows up is crazy. Our best perimeter defender in the bubble
Going into the final minutes i was sure we were gonna lose because Joker is absolutely petrifying in the crunch. It's like he flips a switch and just stops missing. That last possession when he trucked AD??? He's ridiculous
AD is more ridiculous though
Big shout out to Plumlee for calling for a switch instead of sticking to his assignment
As for Kobe, i'm only gonna speak for players i've seen so: MJ, LeBron, Duncan, Shaq, KD, better than Kobe. Over the last 30 years, i'd put him 6th
He has surpassed Kobe long ago. And IMO, he is already the second best ever.
Surpassing Jordan? Dunno. But not impossible.
Depend in which era you grow up I suppose.
But, anyway this finals MVP is for Caruso to lose it.
Can't remembe the last time the playoffs were this good and had so many great series.
Thanks for mentioning Duncan. If I got to pick one player from the 90's to start a franchise with, I'd probably pick the Big Fundamental.
I think Durant, as an individual player, should be ranked ahead of him as well. True, he had to go to GS to win his rings, but I don't care for rings that much anyway and if the Space Jam Aliens attacked and I needed a guy that gives me 30 efficient points, no questions asked, I'd pick Durant ahead of Bryant any day.
Forget LeBron for a moment - AD is finally starting his legacy here.
He is absolute death as the secondary star on a team. Brilliant player.
I don't think AD's the secondary star. Theres never been a 1-1 like it.... and I'm leaning towards AD being the key man now(he's been better in the playoffs) and LeBron being fine with it as if it finished right now - he'd still win MVP basically on popularity and past history - he definitely should have had a finals MVP as a loser.
If this trend of the playoffs continues and the Lakers win it all, AD should be Finals MVP.
He's been the best player in the playoffs thus far.
An unreal player.
His FG% from the mid-range during the playoffs is near 60% last I saw. That's just bonkers. Wonder how MJ and Dirk's best runs compared from the mid-range specifically.
It's true that AD has been the best player in the playoffs, but i think there's also something of a KD-on-the-warriors effect. AD is amazing and playing amazing bball, but playing with LeBron is helping massively on that
Re: LeBron winning finals MVP as a loser. It's easier to count the finals in which he shouldn't have won MVP - 2007, 2011 and 2017. The last one because KD was insanely on those warriors(LBJ average a 30 points triple double and still KD was better...). Maybe 2018 on the basis that they got sweep - but he was still quite clearly the best player in the series. It just didn't matter at all. It might have, had JR Smith not forgotten the score at the end of game 1...
Re: LeBron winning finals MVP as a loser. It's easier to count the finals in which he shouldn't have won MVP - 2007, 2011 and 2017. The last one because KD was insanely on those warriors(LBJ average a 30 points triple double and still KD was better...). Maybe 2018 on the basis that they got sweep - but he was still quite clearly the best player in the series. It just didn't matter at all. It might have, had JR Smith not forgotten the score at the end of game 1...
Looks like Billy Donovan's heading out to Chicago.
This is a good hire for the Bulls. I can see their young team faring better under him.
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Time for Denver to step up or go home.
terrible showing by the lakers. Just didn't match denvers intensity. 2-1
8 point game with 7 and a half minutes to go. Still denvers to lose but lakers d has stepped it up in the 4th.
Stop jacking up 3’s dammit and use your size!
had a chance to comeback. Murray clutch in the end.
Murray has been great these playoffs.
They did Paul George dirty on Shaqtin
I like how Denver just won’t go away. Big dilemma now for Lakers in game 4. Do you lose on purpose to go 2-2 and start from scratch, or risk going 3-1 up against Nuggets which they are almost guaranteed to come back from and win 4-3.
I know it's been said a lot already but I also just want to add that it's so great to finally have a season where the playoffs actually matter and you aren't depending on multiple All-Stars to get injured to in order to think that the Warriors could lose.
feck KD.
feck KD.
We'll go 2-2 then LeBron hits the afterburners and we close them out in 6
Nuggets won't go away though, for a long time. Joker and Murray will make them perennial contenders going forward
Nuggets won't go away though, for a long time. Joker and Murray will make them perennial contenders going forward
I still think Nuggets will win the whole damn thing this season.
Game 4 is crucial now. LeBron is 156945-0 in close-out games in the playoffs. Can't afford to be back to square one after going up 2-0.
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What an insane performance by Grant.
Celtics with some much needed rest should really equalize this series tonight. Jaylen Brown show incoming.
Herro 
Herro!!
Tatum scoreless in the first half.
Tatum scoreless in the first half.
This fecking Heat team
This heat team....damn. Felt like a dangerous outsider all year long, but 3-1 up on the celtics in the ECF with a 20 year old rookie dropping 37 in game 4...incredible stuff
Seems like their vaunted culture isn't just empty words
Seems like their vaunted culture isn't just empty words
The Celtics were literally a coin flip away from selecting Herro in the draft, as well.
I remember people clowning us for trading away the Heats pick like it was a guarenteed lottery pick
LeBron is passive as feck this series, he's passing the ball out even when he's being guarded by Jamal Murray.