I kmow mine won't be!I might still be alive to see it, whether my knees will be up to the park and stroll are another matter
New Stadium | 100k Stadium to be built - design visualisation released
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Some quotes:
"In a promotional video for the new stadium, architect Lord Norman Foster says the stadium will take five years to build. That timeframe is also not accounting for any possible building delays."
Ratcliffe: "Normally, if you were building a 100,000-seater stadium from the ground up, in an area that needs to be regenerated, it's a 10-year project. But if we get going with the government then I think it's a five-year project, not a 10-year project."
We don't have government renewal plans sorted, haven't started building yet and have 5 years and 2 months til 2031. 5 years was already a big stretch as these things usually take ten years. I like your optimism but no way it's done by 2030.
Ah that explains it. If the company was for sale of course they were peddling the story of “we can sell the land for a fortune”. Looks like the new owners saw through this and were happy to be more reasonable.
Frieghtliner owners are the Singaporean wealth fund and another investment fund, forget the name.
Be interesting to see what they need to do in the ground for the project, a lot of the utilities may already be there, and if compatible with the new stadium would save a lot of time. You would expect freightliner to only agree to move off site once they have an alternative location functional too, so that could be a source of risk or delay. Exciting project this.
First thing My mother said when she saw the design: how are they going to clean the canopy, it’ll look rotten within 2 years. Good point
Be interesting to see what they need to do in the ground for the project, a lot of the utilities may already be there, and if compatible with the new stadium would save a lot of time. You would expect freightliner to only agree to move off site once they have an alternative location functional too, so that could be a source of risk or delay. Exciting project this.
First thing My mother said when she saw the design: how are they going to clean the canopy, it’ll look rotten within 2 years. Good point
Remind me, what's the plan for OT, it will be kept for women team or something like that?
More likely 2032-3035.
Going off the plans from March, most likely bulldozed to make way for apartments and restaurants.
It'll be demolished once the new stadium is built
That's sad.
What they'll be replacing it with is quite sad and all.That's sad.
Yeah this is realistic.
Pretty much every other football stadium in this country has taken longer than the original estimate. I can't think of a single one that was finished on time.
The average attendance for the Women's team is 6,000. Keeping an enormous deteriorating stadium open for them makes no sense.
Mum knows best
I’ve been thinking about that possible issue far too much after she mentioned it.
There was some talk of the canopy being made from something that would capture power from the sun (Solar panel - but clearly not like the black ones you see day to day). If this is the case it may be self cleaning. I know my own solar panels don’t need to be cleaned.
What you can't see in the design is the clever soap dispenser that sprays the canopy with liquid soap, the Manchester rain does the rest
They're training pigeons with wetwips tied to their feet.
I’ve worked on projects that had “self cleaning glass” and it was surprisingly temperamental, one bird shit in the wrong place and the whole system fails.
Interesting stuff though regarding the roof!
Pretty sure Ratty wants this to be his legacy he won't want to hang about what is he now 75
I hope so. It looks cool
Won’t even have started then.
Nothing will happen for the next year at least. Still talking with Freightliner, government etc.
Have to do a lot of work with the local authorities first also, regarding traffic.
They will not start before 2027 at the earliest with the stadium. Probably 2028.
The new ground will not be hosting a match before 2032. Might be later. No way 2030 is possible.
Have to do a lot of work with the local authorities first also, regarding traffic.
They will not start before 2027 at the earliest with the stadium. Probably 2028.
The new ground will not be hosting a match before 2032. Might be later. No way 2030 is possible.
He turns 73 tomorrow.
Well he's probably lived to see his ultimate dream - Brexit.
The feasibility of this project is partially dependent on actions by third parties outside of Ratcliffe/United's control.
Ratcliffe may well be motivated to get a new stadium done within the next five years, but that isn't sufficient to get it done.
Went Anfield on Sunday after a few years, they have chucked some cash at it and completly changed the place, wish we would have done the same and put some really thought behind the repairs and reneovations over the years instead of just re-painting the place.
And again...
It's a joke that this survey is open to everyone. Why should someone who only watches on TV be able to influence decision making on a place they'll never actually visit.
It's a joke that this survey is open to everyone. Why should someone who only watches on TV be able to influence decision making on a place they'll never actually visit.
There is a question asking season ticket holder status, so I imagine those with a season ticket will be given more weighting.
Wasn't there a survey conducted exclusively amongst season ticket holders earlier in the year?
Yeah. And it should have stopped there. Maybe with the addition of members.
Well there’s a business opportunity for someone. Drones with high pressure sprays?
I agree but from the club point of view they are targetting potential customers who will come and spend more money than locals
But this is the thing, 99% of them won't come to any matches and spend any money.
Pissing off the "customers" who turn up week in, week out regardless of how shite the team are playing to attract people who might turn up and spend loads of money seems a terrible business decision.
Just throwing it out that that the theory may be can we use a survey to find out what might attract new customers as well as get the views of regulars?
Regulars should always take precedence though. Maybe lower pricing by way of discount card for matches, restaurants, hotels, etc for members or season ticket owners
I agree it's essential to keep regular match goers onside, but who knows, when the actual stadium details are released (we know nothing so far) they might be right behind it. Surely if it were designed for atmosphere as the priority you would be behind it yourself?
For the record here's a revenue breakdown from the official site:
Commercial revenue 333.3
Broadcasting revenue 172.9
Matchday revenue 160.3
https://ir.manutd.com/~/media/Files/M/Manutd-IR/Governance Document/4q2025-earnings-release.pdf
I imagine that one will have more bearing on decisions about the stadium than this one, especially the matchday experience. This one is probably just to gauge what types of features will appeal to occasional visitors. They'll want to turn the new stadium into a tourist attraction that will generate revenue every day instead of just on match days.
Because capacity is growing and they are planning a mixed use district around the area.
They are asking where people are located, if they go to games, whether they travel, how far they travel and the level of interest.
They are asking questions why people are not season ticket holders yet, what would attract them to be season holders, what their attentions are if the new stadium is built.
Tbf, I don't want a new stadium. The current ground is fine and would be amazing if they just spent a (a lot granted, but still considerably less than a new ground) on upgrades.
Leaving Old Trafford is going to be some level of gentrification. It will mean prices go up, it will mean a priority for sponsors and hospitality packages. It will turn football and United into a once a season treat for thousands of people who go every week now.
All so the club can increase revenue that already stands at 600 million. The people at United who claim to value atmosphere will be silent as the hardworking lads and lasses who spend time and their own money sorting things to help improve the sights and sounds on matchday are outpriced. They can implement all the design elements they want, further increases will kill the atmosphere and matchday experience.
The current ground already is a tourist attraction. There's always hundreds of people doing tours, in the Megastore on non matchdays etc. Granted, that's a small amount but still.
In the last month, I've been to several non football events there including Super League Grand Final where over 70,000 people were there.
Again, work can be done to make it better but it's fine.
I don't know any ST holder who wants this. Our local GM based supporters club does a couple of buses to matches and everyone (100 or so) on there is against it.
And I'll repeat a point further up, most of the occasional visitors willl probably still end up going elsewhere for food and drink pre match because the food will be shite and overpriced and not value for money compared to even the basic pub grub you can get over the road at Media City. Everton are currently charging £7.50 for a doughnut. We'll be looking at more than that.