New Stadium | 100k Stadium to be built - design visualisation released

[Jim Beam]

And again...

It's a joke that this survey is open to everyone. Why should someone who only watches on TV be able to influence decision making on a place they'll never actually visit.

It's just to feel fans involved. They will still make decision which is based mostly on commercial revenue possible within the money they have, so you locals are screwed either way with prices going up. Don't have intention to put my opinion there as I will (if some circumstances allow me) go to OT probably once a year on average at best, so yeah, I agree that your voice should be heard louder. You have that right... But it won't, it will be business made decision that has feck all with both atmosphere or local fans feeling in most part despite them disputing it. I also don't like the design and the idea of leaving Old Trafford. All together, your "disdain" (maybe too hard of a word) should be directed towards the club and not "tourists" or people who dream of visiting OT once in their lifetime. Unless, they are spending all their time on their visit with their phone in the hand. That is irritating.

 

[KStandBarmyArmy1993]

It's just to feel fans involved. They will still make decision which is based mostly on commercial revenue possible within the money they have, so you locals are screwed either way with prices going up. Don't have intention to put my opinion there as I will (if some circumstances allow me) go to OT probably once a year on average at best, so yeah, I agree that your voice should be heard louder. You have that right... But it won't, it will be business made decision that has feck all with both atmosphere or local fans feeling in most part despite them disputing it. I also don't like the design and the idea of leaving Old Trafford. All together, your "disdain" (maybe too hard of a word) should be directed towards the club and not "tourists" or people who dream of visiting OT once in their lifetime. Unless, they are spending all their time on their visit with their phone in the hand. That is irritating.

I have no disdain for tourists or for anyone that can only visit once in a lifetime, my disdain is for the club (and wider Premier League tbf) seemingly prioritising them over the fans that attend week in, week out.

And from the business case, just wait until we're playing someone like West Ham or Burnley at home on a midweek night. When you've pissed off most of your entire traditional "customer base" and you realise suddenly you need them to fill the ground.

There's plenty of ways the club can improve revenue without bulldozing 125 years of history and hiking prices. Up until the middle of last season, prices were reasonable. You could get a ticket for around £45 in a decent spot. Now those tickets are £60+ for most matches.

Ultimately, football's quest for constant unlimited growth is killing it. Everything has to be bigger and better and therefore, more expensive. All so clubs can spend hundreds of millions on new players that might not even be any good.* This is happening everywhere now, not just United.

*If I was a businessman in charge of any element of football, I'd maybe tell clubs that spending 400 million (Liverpool) in one summer is a bad decision. Or spending 75 million on a striker that had 8 senior goals (Hoijlund) makes zero sense.

 

[Jim Beam]

I have no disdain for tourists or for anyone that can only visit once in a lifetime, my disdain is for the club (and wider Premier League tbf) seemingly prioritising them over the fans that attend week in, week out.

And from the business case, just wait until we're playing someone like West Ham or Burnley at home on a midweek night. When you've pissed off most of your entire traditional "customer base" and you realise suddenly you need them to fill the ground.

There's plenty of ways the club can improve revenue without bulldozing 125 years of history and hiking prices. Up until the middle of last season, prices were reasonable. You could get a ticket for around £45 in a decent spot. Now those tickets are £60+ for most matches.

Ultimately, football's quest for constant unlimited growth is killing it. Everything has to be bigger and better and therefore, more expensive. All so clubs can spend hundreds of millions on new players that might not even be any good.* This is happening everywhere now, not just United.

*If I was a businessman in charge of any element of football, I'd maybe tell clubs that spending 400 million (Liverpool) in one summer is a bad decision. Or spending 75 million on a striker that had 8 senior goals (Hoijlund) makes zero sense.

Fair enough. That is why I said disdain is too strong of a word. In general, I also do understand irritation towards people who genuinely come as tourists there with their phones up all the time as the atmosphere goes down as a result of that. In general, I do agree with you, especially with money in football reasoning (and everything being money driven - insert "games gone"). As for West Ham or Burnley at on a midweek night the club would have to be on a Real Madrid level of success in last decade to fill such games on a new stadium.

And as you say everything has to be bigger, larger, brighter, shinier to lift more money mostly under the disguise of better "fan expirience". Atmosphere should be number 1 guidence if am being asked as it's something which will help the club on the pitch the most. But bringing more money along with creating the best possible atmosphere naturally clash.

 

[Jim Beam]

Then again, maybe am just old-fashioned. If am being asked I would rather go to Craven Cottage or Sellhurst Park 10 out 10 times than on new Spurs stadium.

 

[Spoony]

I'd give away tickets to schools. Sure that doesn't make financial sense but long term it'd be beneficial. I've never seen kids in City tops up until recent times and these lot will only grow up to follow City. We're still living on past glories what happens if we can't get back to winning? City are doing more in the local communities. We really need to think about the future.

 

[KStandBarmyArmy1993]

I'd give away tickets to schools. Sure that doesn't make financial sense but long term it'd be beneficial. I've never seen kids in City tops up until recent times and these lot will only grow up to follow City. We're still living on past glories what happens if we can't get back to winning? City are doing more in the local communities. We really need to think about the future.

Free tickets for schools is always a good idea. I have friends who work in schools across Greater Manchester and United do more than they're often credited for tbf. The foundation are in most places every half term and most schools regularly get a free tour and tickets etc

We really only have to do the bare minimum to future proof the local support. Keep tickets at a reasonable level and you'll maintain some support regardless of whatever else is going on.

city have always been reasonably well supported. Certainly in Manchester, Tameside and Cheshire, granted they've picked up more out of towners in the last decade but it was always a myth they didn't have fans pre 2008. They were on a par with the likes of Villa and Everton.

 

[Utd heap]

city have always been reasonably well supported. Certainly in Manchester, Tameside and Cheshire, granted they've picked up more out of towners in the last decade but it was always a myth they didn't have fans pre 2008. They were on a par with the likes of Villa and Everton.

Correct

 

[stevoc]

The current ground already is a tourist attraction. There's always hundreds of people doing tours, in the Megastore on non matchdays etc. Granted, that's a small amount but still.

In the last month, I've been to several non football events there including Super League Grand Final where over 70,000 people were there.

Again, work can be done to make it better but it's fine.

I don't know any ST holder who wants this. Our local GM based supporters club does a couple of buses to matches and everyone (100 or so) on there is against it.

And I'll repeat a point further up, most of the occasional visitors willl probably still end up going elsewhere for food and drink pre match because the food will be shite and overpriced and not value for money compared to even the basic pub grub you can get over the road at Media City. Everton are currently charging £7.50 for a doughnut. We'll be looking at more than that.

I'd prefer if we just redeveloped OT myself mate, building the new stadium while great on paper seems more of a vanity project for Ratcliffe to leave a legacy.

 

[Spoony]

Free tickets for schools is always a good idea. I have friends who work in schools across Greater Manchester and United do more than they're often credited for tbf. The foundation are in most places every half term and most schools regularly get a free tour and tickets etc

We really only have to do the bare minimum to future proof the local support. Keep tickets at a reasonable level and you'll maintain some support regardless of whatever else is going on.

city have always been reasonably well supported. Certainly in Manchester, Tameside and Cheshire, granted they've picked up more out of towners in the last decade but it was always a myth they didn't have fans pre 2008. They were on a par with the likes of Villa and Everton.

They've always had decent support on the east side of Greater Manchester. Oldham for example. But naturally succeed attracts and I've seen far more City tops in areas where they've not been that well supported.