New Stadium | 100k Stadium to be built - design visualisation released

Thoughts on the design?

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stevoc said:
Are you saying people shouldn't be upset/concerned at the prospect of being priced out of watching their club play live?
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Do you not think by and large one of the few saving graces of the glazers have been consistent ticket price freezes? It’s like the only good thing they’ve tended to do.

From what I can gather everything said about a new ground would suggest the revenue gains are going to be focused on the additional capacity and increasing the usage of the stadium. Concerts, other events, increased football at the museum and commercial spaces around the ground.

One of the things I’ve always noticed during games I’ve been to is how reasonably priced things are at OT. Anyone with a half a brain knows that tickets and concessions can’t match the prices charged at Wembley or Spurs or Arsenal etc. London exists in a different world while Wembley has ‘big day out’ cup finals as justification.
 
sparx99 said:
Do you not think by and large one of the few saving graces of the glazers have been consistent ticket price freezes? It’s like the only good thing they’ve tended to do.

From what I can gather everything said about a new ground would suggest the revenue gains are going to be focused on the additional capacity and increasing the usage of the stadium. Concerts, other events, increased football at the museum and commercial spaces around the ground.

One of the things I’ve always noticed during games I’ve been to is how reasonably priced things are at OT. Anyone with a half a brain knows that tickets and concessions can’t match the prices charged at Wembley or Spurs or Arsenal etc. London exists in a different world while Wembley has ‘big day out’ cup finals as justification.
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This has now changed. Everything has jumped up in the last two years hence the concern around the new ground.

Members prices are now london prices.
 
matherto said:
I can, because it’s the same enemy of moving forward in any way.

There will always be some too afraid to move on and they will catastrophise everything about the thought of it.

We were at Bank Street long enough for people to get attached and I guarantee the same pattern of moaning and complaining about the thought of moving to Old Trafford happened then.
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I'm sorry but this is nonsense.

"Moving forward" what does that mean? The club has been held back by terrible execs and owners, not a 73,000 capacity stadium.

The club has revenues of around 600 million. How much more can we possibly need? Trying to compete with the likes of Real Madrid and Barcelona financially is silly and ultimately pointless when both have different ownership models. I'm also not convinced that the revenues of our Premier League rivals have been reported accurately.

United’s current situation is completely different to when the club left Bank Street in 1910 when it obviously needed to grow to compete, even then as football was slowly starting to become more professional.

This new ground is all about giving the club the opportunity to push away remaining "legacy" season ticket holders and continue to replace them with corporates and tourists who will happily spend £300+ for one game.

The amount of ordinary tickets will probably be less than there is now.

This isn’t even a theory, it's already happening now and will only increase at a faster pace at the new ground.
 
sparx99 said:
Do you not think by and large one of the few saving graces of the glazers have been consistent ticket price freezes? It’s like the only good thing they’ve tended to do.

From what I can gather everything said about a new ground would suggest the revenue gains are going to be focused on the additional capacity and increasing the usage of the stadium. Concerts, other events, increased football at the museum and commercial spaces around the ground.

One of the things I’ve always noticed during games I’ve been to is how reasonably priced things are at OT. Anyone with a half a brain knows that tickets and concessions can’t match the prices charged at Wembley or Spurs or Arsenal etc. London exists in a different world while Wembley has ‘big day out’ cup finals as justification.
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Yeah but our wider reach means that for many there are significant travel costs to be paid which makes it an expensive day out. The London clubs and their supporters don’t have that issue.
 
sparx99 said:
Do you not think by and large one of the few saving graces of the glazers have been consistent ticket price freezes? It’s like the only good thing they’ve tended to do.

From what I can gather everything said about a new ground would suggest the revenue gains are going to be focused on the additional capacity and increasing the usage of the stadium. Concerts, other events, increased football at the museum and commercial spaces around the ground.

One of the things I’ve always noticed during games I’ve been to is how reasonably priced things are at OT. Anyone with a half a brain knows that tickets and concessions can’t match the prices charged at Wembley or Spurs or Arsenal etc. London exists in a different world while Wembley has ‘big day out’ cup finals as justification.
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They didn't do it out of the goodness of their hearts though.
 
matherto said:
I can, because it’s the same enemy of moving forward in any way.

There will always be some too afraid to move on and they will catastrophise everything about the thought of it.
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No you can't it's an utter nonsense comparison.

matherto said:
We were at Bank Street long enough for people to get attached and I guarantee the same pattern of moaning and complaining about the thought of moving to Old Trafford happened then.
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with people complaining about the prospect of the club leaving Old trafford for a myriad of reasons.
 
sparx99 said:
Do you not think by and large one of the few saving graces of the glazers have been consistent ticket price freezes? It’s like the only good thing they’ve tended to do.

From what I can gather everything said about a new ground would suggest the revenue gains are going to be focused on the additional capacity and increasing the usage of the stadium. Concerts, other events, increased football at the museum and commercial spaces around the ground.

One of the things I’ve always noticed during games I’ve been to is how reasonably priced things are at OT. Anyone with a half a brain knows that tickets and concessions can’t match the prices charged at Wembley or Spurs or Arsenal etc. London exists in a different world while Wembley has ‘big day out’ cup finals as justification.
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A fairer comparison would be with the prices at City, Liverpool and Everton, how does OT compare with those?

I haven't been to a PL game in years so that's a genuine question
 
Season tickets for both Everton and Spurs went up an average of 15% when they moved to their new grounds

Current ST prices at OT are generally fairly fair, even with the recent increases. The cheapest is £32 per game atm

Having pricks as owners notwithstanding, im not sure I get the boogey man argument with regards to price increases. The proposed stadium is set to increase capacity by 27k. It's not exactly hard to get tickets for United games at present.

Theres not a ready supply of 40k extra tourists ready to come over each week, to a medium sized city with limited tourist appeal past that. If there were, tickets would be harder to get currently than they are. Camp Nou, which is in one of the biggest tourist cities in the world, was/is rarely at capacity. It'll be patently obvious that United will need the local support to get anywhere near filling the place, and that's not going to be done by pricing them out

There's currently 47k season ticket holders, the vast majority of whom are paying under £50 a game. That number of "normal priced" season tickets will increase in a 100k stadium. Past that, if most of the rest of the capacity increase is made up of increased numbers of premium and corporates, then happy days. Let the club fleece them away and make their extra revenue that way, which has basically been the intention behind every new big stadium the country has seen recently
 
Assume the stadium will be built by proper hard working Brits and not open to those pesky colonizing foreigners and their money.
 
Utd heap said:
Assume the stadium will be built by proper hard working Brits and not open to those pesky colonizing foreigners and their money.
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I genuinely thought the circus was over with Ineos (I'm fully aware Jim is no saint)...then he came out with that unprevoked.
 
Kinsella said:
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Its a good illustration as to why I never brought into the argument we can't build a new stadium 30 yards away because this is where all the memories were built so we have to just refurbish what we got. The stadium (in sections) has been demolished and re-built so many times - which is also part of the problem with Old Trafford as it is now.
 
astracrazy said:
Its a good illustration as to why I never brought into the argument we can't build a new stadium 30 yards away because this is where all the memories were built so we have to just refurbish what we got. The stadium (in sections) has been demolished and re-built so many times - which is also part of the problem with Old Trafford as it is now.
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And every one of those changes, apart from the bombing, was done by people who wanted change in order to build for the future
 
711 said:
And every one of those changes, apart from the bombing, was done by people who wanted change in order to build for the future
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And every one of those changes that was done pre 2005 was done, for the most part, with ordinary, matchgoing fans in mind in addition to some of the corporate stuff that started to get introduced from the early 90s.

As I've said a million times, this is about far more than a stadium move. It's essentially going to be a final attempt at the almost social cleansing of our match going support.

It will fundamentally change how current Manchester United season ticket holders engage with their team.
 
KStandBarmyArmy1993 said:
And everyone of those changes that was done pre 2005 was done, for the most part, with ordinary, matchgoing fans in mind in addition to some of the corporate stuff that started to get introduced from the early 90s.

As I've said a million times, this is about far more than a stadium move. It's essentially going to be a final attempt at the almost social cleansing of our match going support.

It will fundamentally change how current Manchester United season ticket holders engage with their team.
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You have said that many times, and you could be right, but you have provided zero evidence. We still have cheaper season tickets than any of our big rivals, despite the recent increases, apart from City as a state club, but you can't have that and be against us becoming a state club at the same time.

The answer for now is simple, wait and see. Yeah it will be too late if your doomsday scenario comes to pass, but we could also miss out on a massive change for the better if we don't go for it. Doesn't help your argument that in those million times you have never admitted you could be wrong, we all can.
 
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