Conte.
Why are people obsessed with a long term manager? They don't exist.
A league title would be nice.
Why are people obsessed with a long term manager? They don't exist.
A league title would be nice.
Next Manager Poll
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Funny if he RKO'd him
What makes you put Emery in that bottom tier, would also probably put Howe into tier 4 but agree with the rest
Where would you place Carrick if we finish 3rd ?
Can't see it happening as Villa have a big cushion, however would have to be in tier 4, would still say he needs to do more to get into the third tier
I'm expecting Villa to lose form the rest of the way. They've only gotten 7 out of 15 points in their last five fixtures. That's not to say we would catch them of course.
I'm starting to feel unless we can get any of Enrique (no chance) Alonso (waiting for scousers) Nagelsmann (contract extended) Tuchel or Ancelotti then should keep faith with Carrick
The next manager realistically won't be required to win the league as such. We're now looking for a top 4 manager, a guy who can have us playing regular CL football. Thomas Tuchel will do.
Im not a fan of Emery. But your initial post is a little OTT. Almost everyone viewing this from the outside, has stated that this was out of character for Emery.
Is he likely to be available? Has he given any indication whether it’s one and done with England?
Would push him to tier 3 for me. He has the added benefit of not costing a lot for the ownership and someone they'll likely clash with less. I think that means they either go all in for Enrique or stick with Carrick.
If Carrick gets us top 4, he should get the job full time.
For me, Xavi has done nothing to justify his place on any list. I also think emery and conte would be decent shouts for us (conte probably wouldn't last long, mind). Tuchel would be tier two and Alonso alongside nagelsmann in tier three.
If Carrick gets us playing sustainable football, shows good game management and champions league football, I'd rather he gets the job unless it's an Ancelotti or Enrique situation.
I dont rate tuchel, I think he made Bayern worse after Nagelsmann and think he could implode after a year or two.
The hidden advantage of Carrick in this scenario is we know he works under the current structure, whereas we have no idea how the others will take to it and what fractures may arise as a result.
I dont rate tuchel, I think he made Bayern worse after Nagelsmann and think he could implode after a year or two.
The hidden advantage of Carrick in this scenario is we know he works under the current structure, whereas we have no idea how the others will take to it and what fractures may arise as a result.
If we cannot get Enrique out of PSG; then none of the options look great at the moment.
For me, the next best would be to assess how Carrick does and if we see significant progress for the rest of this season; then to allow him to stay,
For me, the next best would be to assess how Carrick does and if we see significant progress for the rest of this season; then to allow him to stay,
Yes, I agree. I think there are quite a few advantages though. He loves the club, he's familiar with the dna of the club. He's willing to promote youth. The others would be just coming for a paycheck. Even Ancelotti has nothing to prove.
One more thing - he's boring as feck to the press. I think we need that. Someone who doesnt want to create jilted or ego moments candidly to everyone.
Sounds like he will be staying with PSG according to Castles Transfers Podcast (yes I know not reliable)
I’ve read the complete opposite again but really not sure if it’s reliable or not. Says he won’t renew despite a massive offer from PSG and is looking for a new challenge.
I don't understand why Iraola gets so much stick on the caf. The state of that Bournemouth team today was relegation worthy. Yet, when Liverpool equalised, they went for the winner and got rewarded for it.
Like I have said before my concern is that he's more of a Martinez than Arteta. The step up from managing Bournemouth to Utd is enormous. He definitely went up in my estimation with that result and celebration though.
Whenever a manager gets compared favourably to our manager, the caf starts to hate them in order to back our manager. Context is only important for our manager and never for any other manager. The fact that he is managing Bournemouth, who constantly have to sell their best players and work on a fraction of our budget is irrelevant and only our managers have to deal with crap squad/poor past manager/injuries/AFCON, the list goes on.
The judgement of our manager vs other managers is not consistent in the slightest and it isn't just standard bias, it is a weird defensiveness.
In terms of next manager, I think we need to really do deep dives into the managerial philosophy and style of play, how they adapt, how they are with young players, etc. A lot of deep analysis rather than surface level "get this name". That is how we will end up hiring [insert big name here] then complaining about dour football. I look at how Kompany has done so much better than Tuchel did at Bayern and think it is important we look at more than just the name.
At the end of the day, the club needs to get over the whole issue around managers not working out and be like other clubs who aren't as hung up on it. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't for many reasons, similar to with players. The head coach has to come in and prove himself just like players do. Our problem is we put so much undue pressure on getting the next Fergie that it leads to crippling indecision on who to choose and sacking them when they're clearly not up to scratch. If we rid ourselves of that mentality, the situation would be far less stressful because a manager "failing" is not catastrophic elsewhere. Fergie was great because he was Fergie, not because he was given time and there is a reason why not every club has a Fergie to sing about.
Why isn't Cesc Fabregas on the list?
Going by the logic of the thread, he'd never join us since he played for Arsenal and Chelsea
I’m not sure why we feel the need to obsess on this topic while we have important business at hand right now.
8 days between matches is a long time. We've got to find something to discuss whilst all of our rivals are on midweek European duty.
Didnt he say he'll never play for Chelsea too?
Exactly. I'm sick of it. Look at the most winning teams since Fergie. A vast majority of them didn't have a long term manager.
Would someone please explain the Enrique love in to me? I'm not sure I know enough about him considering he's so favoured at the moment.
Personally I'm very cautious of people who have never managed PL before.
I think we're probably getting close (if we haven't passed) the point of our name alone having the power it did. So for me this appointment should be one that actually works.
I would say Unai is my clear favourite, smart manager with a great attitude, and a knack for both getting the best out of players, and getting rid when necessary.
Personally I'm very cautious of people who have never managed PL before.
I think we're probably getting close (if we haven't passed) the point of our name alone having the power it did. So for me this appointment should be one that actually works.
I would say Unai is my clear favourite, smart manager with a great attitude, and a knack for both getting the best out of players, and getting rid when necessary.
Proven himself at a huge club in Barcelona and took PSG to their first ever Champions League. There is just something about his passion that really appeals to me too. Having said that there is no chance he will be Utd manager under this ownership, fear he is gonna end up replacing Guardiola at City which will be gutting.
Two time Champions League winner at two different clubs, and a winner of multiple domestic titles, while playing fantastic football. What's not to get?
Also, Claudio Ranieri is the only league winning manager in the last 30 years who had previous experience at another PL club. Every other one (Ferguson, Guardiola, Wenger, Mourinho, Ancelotti, Conte, Klopp, Mancini, Pellegrini & Slot) had never managed in the PL before they arrived at the club they won the title with.
So not only is there no evidence for thinking you need to appoint someone with PL experience, the evidence actually suggests the exact opposite.
As for Emery, he is a manager who enjoys an extremely rare amount of control at his current club, and even still seems to be having some issues behind the scenes. Bar maybe Conte, there isn't a manager on the above list you could pick who would more obviously fall out with our sporting structure in the same way the manager we just fired did.
I agree, PL ecperience is not needed. But at least we need a manager to understand it is a different league and requires a different set up. Amorim never got that
Definitely the stand out candidate
I totally agree. However I am realistic and realise it’s not happening despite what social media and clickbait journalists will report for the next 6 months.
Enrique may want a challenge but I simply cannot see Ineos giving him the full control he would need to make a significant difference.
Don’t get people slating Emery, doing a great job at Villa
How would you rate Xavi's prospects in the PL?
Interesting how Xabi Alonso's votes tapered off quickly and people began voting for Luis Enrique again.