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Who should manage us next?


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Busby played for both City and Liverpool.
Already responded to that. Busby played for Liverpool in 30s, when rivalry was nothing like it is today. And he joined United with Liverpool's blessing, in post-WWII times where if anything there was more of camaraderie and solidarity between neighboring teams trying to rebuild after the war than fierce rivalry we had since 60s. Comparing Busby situation to current times is senseless. Understanding context of historic facts is more important than meaninglessly using them as arguments.

It's not just how United fans will react to it. Maybe most of the fans have lost self-respect. More important is if Xabi will do it and erase his Liverpool past. And also, how will Liverpool fans react to Xabi becoming United manager, and potentially taking us to greatness. Doubt they will cheer him on
 
Already responded to that. Busby played for Liverpool in 30s, when rivalry was nothing like it is today. And he joined United with Liverpool's blessing, in post-WWII times where if anything there was more of camaraderie and solidarity between neighboring teams trying to rebuild after the war than fierce rivalry we had since 60s. Comparing Busby situation to current times is senseless. Understanding context of historic facts is more important than meaninglessly using them as arguments.

It's not just how United fans will react to it. Maybe most of the fans have lost self-respect. More important is if Xabi will do it and erase his Liverpool past. And also, how will Liverpool fans react to Xabi becoming United manager, and potentially taking us to greatness. Doubt they will cheer him on

To claim that wanting Alonso equals no self respect is a bit much, don't you think?

He was great for Liverpool but he isn't Gerrard, he didn't come from their youth system, and he left them for Madrid when given a chance. Fergie had no issues signing Owen, because it depended more on Owen rather than us.

Alonso won't take the job here if he feels a strong connection to Liverpool, but if he's happy to do it, then it shouldn't be a problem for us. Hell, if we're scouting a player and it turns out he was a childhood Liverpool fan do you think that would stop us from signing him? Hell no.
 
To claim that wanting Alonso equals no self respect is a bit much, don't you think?

He was great for Liverpool but he isn't Gerrard, he didn't come from their youth system, and he left them for Madrid when given a chance. Fergie had no issues signing Owen, because it depended more on Owen rather than us.

Alonso won't take the job here if he feels a strong connection to Liverpool, but if he's happy to do it, then it shouldn't be a problem for us. Hell, if we're scouting a player and it turns out he was a childhood Liverpool fan do you think that would stop us from signing him? Hell no.
There is a huge difference between poaching a player from another club (usually positive for us, shame for them) and appointing somebody else's ex star as your manager

Childhood fandom has absolutely nothing to do with anything. Not sure why you are bringing that into the argument since nobody mentioned it. Many of our legends had been childhood fans of other clubs. Nobody pays attention to that one

Either way, it's fine if you don't mind Xabi, was just saying dor me that is a big reason for not wanting him. To each their own.
 
still only three games. i'm not being negative, but let's see where we are in a month or two. he's shown a lot, and if this continues, then he may well get it. but again, it's still just three games.

it is simple, really, isn't it? if he does this until the end of the season, he'll get it. if we drop off, he won't. unless they've already made an appointment or a mind-set that no matter what happens they'll get an ancelotti or a tuchel regardless.
 
Think even IF he did play more attractive football his huge personality and wages would still put INEOS off
simeone would be my dream appointment. i didn't even list him in my choices because i didnt think he'd be possible to get. but he's like a better version of klopp, in my eyes.
 
We‘ll have to see how Carrick gets on with it now that the bounce is over.

But for now:

Man United Manager checklist - Manager: Michael Carrick

Puts best players on pitchX
Puts players in their best positionX
Plays attacking footballX
Patterns of PlayX
Defensive structureX
Late come backsX
Is not Gareth Southgate in disguiseX
Plays Kobbie MainooX
Plays Bruno as a CAMX
Improves or got rid of Dalotin progress

Fixes playing out the backX
Fixes playing through the pressX
Doesn’t have a ‚system‘ that‘s more important than our playersX
Doesn‘t bring cb‘s on when chasing a goalX
Makes Dorgu look like really goodX
Makes the most of MartinezX
 
We‘ll have to see how Carrick gets on with it now that the bounce is over.

But for now:

Man United Manager checklist - Manager: Michael Carrick

Puts best players on pitchX
Puts players in their best positionX
Plays attacking footballX
Patterns of PlayX
Defensive structureX
Late come backsX
Is not Gareth Southgate in disguiseX
Plays Kobbie MainooX
Plays Bruno as a CAMX
Improves or got rid of Dalotin progress

Fixes playing out the backX
Fixes playing through the pressX
Doesn’t have a ‚system‘ that‘s more important than our playersX
Doesn‘t bring cb‘s on when chasing a goalX
Makes Dorgu look like really goodX
Makes the most of MartinezX

I feel like 'Not a weirdo', 'not an arsehole' and 'not too nice' also need to be criteria for the next manager.
 
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Carrick and Steve Holland as a tag team must be the favourite now. Surely?
Not if they’re in competition with Enrique, Tuchel or Ancelotti. If the club are looking at managers like Iraola, De Zerbi or Glasner then Carrick should have the edge.
 
Is Carrick a more advanced version of a “vibes” manager? In that he has a style, actually does some coaching, but also understands the “United way”.

Slightly tongue in cheek but the team and crowd seem to respond to him so if he is part of a top quality coaching team (seemingly Holland) plus maybe some others, then could he be a success?
 
We‘ll have to see how Carrick gets on with it now that the bounce is over.

But for now:

Man United Manager checklist - Manager: Michael Carrick

Puts best players on pitchX
Puts players in their best positionX
Plays attacking footballX
Patterns of PlayX
Defensive structureX
Late come backsX
Is not Gareth Southgate in disguiseX
Plays Kobbie MainooX
Plays Bruno as a CAMX
Improves or got rid of Dalotin progress

Fixes playing out the backX
Fixes playing through the pressX
Doesn’t have a ‚system‘ that‘s more important than our playersX
Doesn‘t bring cb‘s on when chasing a goalX
Makes Dorgu look like really goodX
Makes the most of MartinezX


Not Gareth Southgate in disguise :lol:
 
Not if they’re in competition with Enrique, Tuchel or Ancelotti. If the club are looking at managers like Iraola, De Zerbi or Glasner then Carrick should have the edge.

Let's see how Carrick and Holland end the season first. If they can maintain the form, they should get the job. There is no guarantee for any manager even the big names.

Enrique could be another system manager where he needs all his players to play his style of play like Alonso and Amorim. Basically, another rebuild all over again as we don't have the squad for his game.

Tuchel won't work well with our new structure because of Wilcox. Even Amorim fall out with Wilcox. Tuchel will be 10 times worse.

Ancelloti is the best candidate because of his flexibility in tactics and proven track records with many teams across different leagues. However, I will still give it to Carrick if he could maintain this form and could find a formula that works for Man Utd. He understands Man Utd DNA.
 
I was thinking that there could be a a huge opportunity if Carrick is given the full time job, assuming he secures CL football this season.

If INEOS decide to adopt a football structure similar to Bayern Munich, where the DoF and the overall football department manage recruitment and long term squad planning, while the head coach focuses entirely on coaching and match preparation, then starting this project with Carrick could be a sensible approach. (I think the project has started already with the recruitment of several good players recently, like Mbeumo, Cunha, Sesko, etc...)


What needs to be done IMO is: -

- INEOS appoint a top class DoF who is responsible for all aspects of player recruitment, player development and long term squad building. This would include ensuring that high quality players are identified and signed, along with creating clear progression pathways for academy talents such as Lacey or JJ, I am not sure Wilcox is the right man for this, unless he is given the freedom without interference from Ratcliff, Ashworth might have been onto something when he did not agree to Amorim, a top DoF will hire a coach that fits what's already built in the club.

- Carrick’s responsibility as Head Coach is to manage the first team only and concentrate on training sessions, tactical principles, style of play and match management.

- The new DoF and Carrick align on the club’s football philosophy to ensures it is sustainable for the long term identity, rather than changing direction because a new manager is hired (the new top DoF will also ensure we do not hire someone like Amorim ever again!)

Carrick being good coach but not an established elite level head coach will allow a top DoF to shape the long term plan while giving Carrick an environment where he can focus completely on coaching the team.

If it works (obviously that's a big if), it will eliminate some of the issues we faced in the past (no competent DoF, managers dictating which players to bring in, no clear style of play, no clear structure), roles and responsibilities will be clearly defined, Carrick will be judged only on the results on the pitch, while the DoF will be accountable for making the long term plan work.

I can also see if Carrick does well and the team is always top 4 and go deep in CL, but say does not manage to win something major (PL or CL) by summer 2029, then he is replaced and the new head coach will inherit a well built squad that has been competing at a high level and would not require a major rebuild, I mentioned Bayern as a good example, the head coach is expected to coach and win football matches and win major trophies, and they provided the environment for Kompany to just do that, they got him the right players like Diaz, Olise and Tah who are quality players, and he is doing extremely well so far. (basically breaking records!)

P.S. this is in no way comparing Kompany to Carrick, Kompany could be a tactical genius or something for all we know and Bayern just lucked into a generational top coach here, but the key point is that the model can work regardless of who is the head coach, provided the structure is correct.
 
Reading the last few pages. Objecting to Alonso because he had a spell with Liverpool is just performative "Top Red" nonsense!

Ok, if it was Steven Gerrard, Robbie Fowler or Luis Susrez it might be hard to stomach, but Xabi Alonso?! Really?

If anything, it would really piss the Scousers off seeing one of their favourite players manage us, which would almost make it worth hiring him just for that alone!
 
To claim that wanting Alonso equals no self respect is a bit much, don't you think?

He was great for Liverpool but he isn't Gerrard, he didn't come from their youth system, and he left them for Madrid when given a chance. Fergie had no issues signing Owen, because it depended more on Owen rather than us.

Alonso won't take the job here if he feels a strong connection to Liverpool, but if he's happy to do it, then it shouldn't be a problem for us. Hell, if we're scouting a player and it turns out he was a childhood Liverpool fan do you think that would stop us from signing him? Hell no.
Ole was a childhood Liverpool fan and was still a signed up member of their fan club when he played for us. The idea that we shouldn't accept or welcome a former Liverpool fan/player/manager is nonsense (I mean, with a few exceptions - Rafa, Gerrard and Suarez can all get in the sea obviously). If Alonso is the best available candidate, and he wants the job (very unlikely, but...), he should be hired.
 
We‘ll have to see how Carrick gets on with it now that the bounce is over.

But for now:

Man United Manager checklist - Manager: Michael Carrick

Puts best players on pitchX
Puts players in their best positionX
Plays attacking footballX
Patterns of PlayX
Defensive structureX
Late come backsX
Is not Gareth Southgate in disguiseX
Plays Kobbie MainooX
Plays Bruno as a CAMX
Improves or got rid of Dalotin progress

Fixes playing out the backX
Fixes playing through the pressX
Doesn’t have a ‚system‘ that‘s more important than our playersX
Doesn‘t bring cb‘s on when chasing a goalX
Makes Dorgu look like really goodX
Makes the most of MartinezX

aha, that would be Erik Ten Hag then so :eek:. Also the late comebacks are great but they indicate a botched setup that has caused us to fall behind in the first place, looking at you Fergie 1999 CL final ?

Vibes FC seems to work at Utd so I would love to see King of the Vibes, Ancelotti give it a go even for a season or 2 ideally he could be one that would keep Carrick with a view to succession. There will be tough moments in a full season and to have a Don like Carlo would shield Carrick from the media storms and allow him to just get on with the coaching/setup work he does now. I have never been sold completely on Tuchel and feel he may fall out with everyone within 2 seasons, Conte the same but in 1 season. Sadly i dont think long term managers like Fergie are going to happen anymore so the team needs to get lads in that will make an impact but with a good DOF working so that the squad can still function in succession situations (for which i actually think Wilcox is doing a good job).
 
aha, that would be Erik Ten Hag then so :eek:. Also the late comebacks are great but they indicate a botched setup that has caused us to fall behind in the first place, looking at you Fergie 1999 CL final ?

Vibes FC seems to work at Utd so I would love to see King of the Vibes, Ancelotti give it a go even for a season or 2 ideally he could be one that would keep Carrick with a view to succession. There will be tough moments in a full season and to have a Don like Carlo would shield Carrick from the media storms and allow him to just get on with the coaching/setup work he does now. I have never been sold completely on Tuchel and feel he may fall out with everyone within 2 seasons, Conte the same but in 1 season. Sadly i dont think long term managers like Fergie are going to happen anymore so the team needs to get lads in that will make an impact but with a good DOF working so that the squad can still function in succession situations (for which i actually think Wilcox is doing a good job).
My post was half serious half joke, but Carrick has ticked a lot of boxes in three games. I‘m sure he will have a rougher ride some of the time going forward.

If he continues to do well, he should be in serious contention in my opinion.

As for Wilcox: hiring Amorim looks more and more like a huge failure. He‘s also partly responsible for shipping out McTominay and bringing in Ugarte. I don‘t know man.

Transfers have been better, but probably not because of him, but Vivell.

We need to continue to recruit players and managers that want to be at MU specifically, have a playstyle that fits the club (the current one does 100%) and attributes that fit that playstyle and culture.

We will see this summer, whether we appoint someone like Tuchel who doesn’t exactly fit here, or go for a Carrick/McKenna type of appointment.
 
Let's see how Carrick and Holland end the season first. If they can maintain the form, they should get the job. There is no guarantee for any manager even the big names.

Enrique could be another system manager where he needs all his players to play his style of play like Alonso and Amorim. Basically, another rebuild all over again as we don't have the squad for his game.

Tuchel won't work well with our new structure because of Wilcox. Even Amorim fall out with Wilcox. Tuchel will be 10 times worse.

Ancelloti is the best candidate because of his flexibility in tactics and proven track records with many teams across different leagues. However, I will still give it to Carrick if he could maintain this form and could find a formula that works for Man Utd. He understands Man Utd DNA.
Exactly this. If Carrick continues the good form until the end of the season then I'd say he definitely has a shout. Otherwise we risk the chance of jumping the gun like we did with Ole, and I think Ole did a good job at United before it went tits up. But if people remember we had that amazing run under Ole as caretaker and then as soon as he signed the contract the wheels came off and we missed out on Champions League football where it looked like we were going to be a shoe-in around the PSG games. He was 10-2-1 and then after signing the deal we went 2-2-4 and missed out on 4th by 5 points. I hope that the decision makers take a measured approach this time instead of going with either the Flavor of the Month (like we did with Amorim) or jumping on Carrick because we had a couple of good games (like we did with Ole).
 
Not if they’re in competition with Enrique, Tuchel or Ancelotti. If the club are looking at managers like Iraola, De Zerbi or Glasner then Carrick should have the edge.

I think this is broadly where I am at. It's still very early days for Carrick and we'll have to see how he does over the next couple of months, but I'm expecting him to broadly be okay/fine, probably win about half our remaining games and have us somewhere in the 7th-4th zone, challenging for UCL qualification and at least achieving Europa League entry. If that's roughly what transpires between now and May, then I'd probably rather continue with Carrick-Holland than roll the dice with someone like Silva, De Zerbi or, worst of all, Glasner.

However, if world class managers are available to us this summer, with proven and recent track records of Premier League / UCL titles, we'd be absolutely mad not to appoint one of them. I remain doubtful about whether any of those top end candidates will actually be options for us, though.
 
Exactly this. If Carrick continues the good form until the end of the season then I'd say he definitely has a shout. Otherwise we risk the chance of jumping the gun like we did with Ole, and I think Ole did a good job at United before it went tits up. But if people remember we had that amazing run under Ole as caretaker and then as soon as he signed the contract the wheels came off and we missed out on Champions League football where it looked like we were going to be a shoe-in around the PSG games. He was 10-2-1 and then after signing the deal we went 2-2-4 and missed out on 4th by 5 points. I hope that the decision makers take a measured approach this time instead of going with either the Flavor of the Month (like we did with Amorim) or jumping on Carrick because we had a couple of good games (like we did with Ole).
Largely feel the same way. There should be a proper interview process with a few candidates this time irrespective of how this season ends and I hope we take more of a holistic approach instead of being swayed by just one factor like experience, as Gary Neville and some others in the media seem to be increasingly lobbying for at the moment.

If Carrick can showcase the ability to cope and perform in this environment between now and the end of the season, that will be a big advantage for him though. The execs would need to have a strong belief in another coach to go against him if he keeps winning. It would also be a lot easier for them to keep Carrick in place as they wouldn't need to sell the project to him or pay him top level money as they might have to with some of the other popular choices.

I liked Ole and probably would've appointed him in 2019 anyway but it was a bit bizarre to do it before the season had played out in its entirety, and even more so as we did it off the back of two losses when he was given the job permanently. I'd like to think we'll approach it more sensibly this time.
 
Many thought we had the squad to play 4231/433.

The question is, are we going to play a higher line and more aggressive ball dominant version of the 4231/433 next season?

If so, then we'll need centrebacks that can defend the whole half often man to man, Maguire and Martinez don't suit that, Yoro hasn't look adept at it either. De Ligts mobility isn't his biggest strength either. Dorgu can do it, as can Dalot or Mazroaui.

We definitely need to replace Maguire with a CB if we're aiming to play a more aggressive higher line. Heaven seems capable of doing it but we're not picking him as first choice for a reason yet. Martinez is so good on the ball that he's keeping Heaven out. But who will be the better overall player for next season's preferred system?

The coach and director of football need to sort this asap. Only then can you decide on the Maguire release or renewal. We must have made the decision for a more mobile midfield hence Casemiro being let go.

We'd probably want 3 midfielders, one left winger and a mobile CB that is comfortable with the ball.

If we don't get the 5 starting level players in the summer we won't catch anyone up. Man City and Arsenal are years ahead in the squad department.
 
We can throw in big names like Enrique, Alonso and Tuchel. But do we have the squad suitable for their style of play. I, for sure, don't want another rebuild.

With the squad, I think it's currently most suitable for Ancelloti because he is flexible and play various system. Won't fall out with Wilcox. Good track records.

Otherwise, if Carrick can maintain the form he should get the job. Its about the squad and not only the manager. I mean Kompany is doing very well in Bayern Munich. Also, we don't want another manager where he need the squad to accommodate his style of play instead of the other way round.
 
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We can throw in big names like Enrique, Alonso and Tuchel. But do we have the squad suitable for their style of play. I, for sure, don't want another rebuild.

With the squad, I think it's currently most suitable for Ancelloti because he is flexible and play various system. Won't fall out with Wilcox. Good track records.

Otherwise, if Carrick can maintain the form he should get the job. Its about the squad and not only the manager. I mean Kompany is doing very well in Bayern Munich. Also, we don't want another manager where he need to squad to accommodate his style of play instead of the other way round.
All this for me
 
We can throw in big names like Enrique, Alonso and Tuchel. But do we have the squad suitable for their style of play. I, for sure, don't want another rebuild.

With the squad, I think it's currently most suitable for Ancelloti because he is flexible and play various system. Won't fall out with Wilcox. Good track records.

Otherwise, if Carrick can maintain the form he should get the job. It’s about the squad and not only the manager. I mean Kompany is doing very well in Bayern Munich. Also, we don't want another manager where he need the squad to accommodate his style of play instead of the other way round.
I don’t believe any top manager like Tuchel or Enrique will come in and have complaints with the attack that is 3rd in goals and top in many other metrics. We also have very good depth at CB with two promising young players in Heaven and Yoro. Our issues are in midfield and at fullback, which is going to get a massive overhaul this summer, irrespective of who is named the permanent manager.

I agree that in terms of tactical flexibility, Ancelotti likely tops them all but I don’t believe Enrique or Tuchel are tied to a strict philosophy like Amorim.
 
I changed my vote to Carrick, he's shown a lot in 3 games with his coaching staff.

I believe Gary Neville is in INEOS's ear and is behind Steve Holland being included in the coaching team even if their time coaching at England didn't directly overlap.

Alonso just failed at a big club so why clamour for him now. Carrick has done extremely well twice in charge of the team so why not give him the backing of the rest of the season and then the summer transfer window. If he's still doing well.

If we actually want a head coach and not a manager then why not Carrick? We can make other hires in the summer if needed. It now looks like recruitment and scouting is in a better place to handle things that maybe an old school manager might have been involved in previously.
 
Tuchel, Ancelotti and Nagelsmann I can see arguments for.

Pochettino, I don't get. Seems like yesterday's man, and yesterday wasn't that great to begin with.