Next Manager Poll

[Ronaldo's Love Child]

Can already see it.. Carrick gets us top 4 and they decided to appoint the latest flavour of the month from the continent with his patented Inverted tealady formation that has us floundering in 8th by Christmas

I still think we should appoint a big name (probably Tuchel) but if Carrick carries in like this then he's nailed on as the successor to our next manager.

 

[caid]

I'd probably still target Enrique or Tuchel. But i'd be scratching out candidates at the bottom of the list every time we win. Feel like McKenna, Iraola, Glasner, Southgate, Ole and Maresca could / should be ruled out. Few others above that i wouldn't be at all keen on but you can still make an argument for i guess.

 

[Tiber]

I understand the desire for a big name manger, but struggling to understand the Tuchel appeal

 

[AndyMUFC]

If you can get Enrique for example, you'd be mad not to. But otherwise you might as well just go for Carrick providing things continue to head in the right direction.

 

[Wilt]

What? Why do you think that

Seem to remember him saying so

 

[Acquire Me]

I just have to say that I am really impressed by Carrick. He actually might be a really good manager.

 

[tentan]

Carrick 1 year contract

 

[caid]

I understand the desire for a big name manger, but struggling to understand the Tuchel appeal

I was using him as an example of a big name manager rather than calling for him specifically. I'm not that keen on him but i think he qualifies as a big name manager and i get why people would rate him. Enrique seems the best manager around at the moment and I think the job would quite suit Ancelotti. They'd be the 2 i'd at least talk to in the summer. Everyone below that i can see Carrick overtaking with good performances. It would take something pretty insane for me to prefer him to Enrique and Ancelotti. It might not suit them or us for whatever reason though.

 

[JE-0801]

I wanted de Zerbi. But after second thought, we need an elite manager. Therefore, I’m changing my choice to Luis Enrique. For someone that has PL experience, my choice would be Tuchel. If we finish end of the season with 80 points then I would consider carrick because achieving 80 points only just to manage the team mid season is incredible and promising.

 

[Mcking]

You don't change a manager that is doing well. If Carrick is on 2ppg by the end of the season, the job is his. Replacing him would just be making a decision for the sake of it.

 

[Bondi77]

Carrick 1 year contract

If he carries on with his current form I would say that would be the obvious thing to do.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

If they don't pick Carrick, he is going to be a lead weight over anyone they dare appoint instead of him

Just goes to show how easily pleased our fan base is.

 

[Winrar]

Not saying we should rush this decision, but if Carrick does as well as he has for most of the remaining matches here, why not give him the reins for the next season. After all, there's no reason to change something that's working.

 

[Overhaul FC]

Why would we not hire someone who knows the club inside out and can play well with the current squad. For someone that doesn't know the club inside out and might want to change half the squad and formation again?

 

[Ronaldo's Love Child]

I wanted de Zerbi. But after second thought, we need an elite manager. Therefore, I’m changing my choice to Luis Enrique. For someone that has PL experience, my choice would be Tuchel. If we finish end of the season with 80 points then I would consider carrick because achieving 80 points only just to manage the team mid season is incredible and promising.

I don't think we "need" an elite manager. It's just that elite managers are a safer bet than unproven ones.

We all got our fingers burnt getting carried away with the Ole new manager bounce.

If we appoint an elite manager in the summer, Carrick is not going anywhere.

Wherever he might happen to be managing I'm pretty sure he'll take the United job if it comes calling.

As a fan base, we need to stop being so reactive. Many of us wanted ETH.any of us wanted Amorim

 

[Buchan]

The players’ endorsements will probably tip the scales here provided we continue this form for the remainder of the season. Fernandes and Casemiro have publicly lauded Carrick for what he’s done since he’s come in, and his backroom team (particularly Holland) appear to be shrewd operators. Carrick’s ‘Boro team played some terrific stuff and were unlucky not to get promoted in his time there. There’s enough evidence to suggest he’s a Premier League manager; the question is, is it with us on a permanent basis?

 

[Pep Guard Yolo]

If Carrick is still doing great, and finishes 3rd or 4th at the end of the season, and the players are enjoying themselves and are fully behind him, the players will be the problem if a new manager is brought in and doesn’t hit the ground sprinting.

 

[Scorpy]

Carrick.

 

[manichester]

Wait and see if we get a few injuries and players like Heaven, Yorro and Ugarti have to start games, that would give us a better idea if Carrick can keep up the good work.

 

[ScholesBrain]

need 10 more games to assess if it's just a new manager bounce

if we still do well after that I would pick carrick

 

[NLunited]

So far so good with Carrick, I’m really impressed.

One question for the English on here: Carrick has a really flat temperament on the outside. What do you think about that?

 

[Andy_Cole]

I wanted de Zerbi. But after second thought, we need an elite manager. Therefore, I’m changing my choice to Luis Enrique. For someone that has PL experience, my choice would be Tuchel. If we finish end of the season with 80 points then I would consider carrick because achieving 80 points only just to manage the team mid season is incredible and promising.

83 points is our max by the way. I think 75 points would be incredible.

 

[Andy_Cole]

So far so good with Carrick, I’m really impressed.

One question for the English on here: Carrick has a really flat temperament on the outside. What do you think about that?

Yeh it’s concerning. Historically what successful manager is so flat?

 

[NLunited]

Yeh it’s concerning. Historically what successful manager is so flat?

I hope he is boiling inside like a vulcano. So I want some insight from the English who might know. The Dutch are what see is what you get.

 

[Telsim]

The 72 people voting for Ole and 16 people voting for Southgate has to be trolls or City/Liverpool rival fans disguising as United fans on here. There is no way anyone who cares about the well-being of this club has to be that stupid.

Not quite. I'm neither a troll nor a rival fan. I've already outlined in this thread why I'd prefer Southgate over the others and I'm not going to go over it again. But it's not really that outlandish. It boils down to having already tried the big name, the club legend, and the hipster (or two). It always ended in disaster. So perhaps something less glamorous this time. I'm certainly enjoying it, but I'm also not putting much stock into this supposed renaissance under Michael Carrick. It's also something we've already seen. It's all well and good, until the bad times hit. Does he have the experience and ability to deal with those at this level? I personally wouldn't give it to him, barring extraordinary circumstances... which is winning the league or at least finishing second. Also, question marks over the culture a prolonged Carrick tenure would foster, similar to Ole.

The only ones I'd pick above Southgate are Enrique and Ancelotti, but I simply doubt their interest in taking the job. If they can be brought here, then by all means.

 

[JE-0801]

83 points is our max by the way. I think 75 points would be incredible.

Yeah I know. That’s why i said if carrick can get us 80 points, he would be in a consideration for a permanent job because that is incredible and promising.

 

[JE-0801]

I don't think we "need" an elite manager. It's just that elite managers are a safer bet than unproven ones.

We all got our fingers burnt getting carried away with the Ole new manager bounce.

If we appoint an elite manager in the summer, Carrick is not going anywhere.

Wherever he might happen to be managing I'm pretty sure he'll take the United job if it comes calling.

As a fan base, we need to stop being so reactive. Many of us wanted ETH.any of us wanted Amorim

I’m not sure what is the reactive in my post. You must be so desperate to say something that you have kept in your mind to people who mentioned carrick name without reading the whole post.

 

[Hughie77]

Bar trying to get Enrique, Carrick keeps it.

 

[Ronaldo's Love Child]

I’m not sure what is the reactive in my post. You must be so desperate to say something that you have kept in your mind to people who mentioned carrick name without reading the whole post.

I didn't say YOU were being reactive. I was speaking broadly about the fan base.

And you DID mention Carrick-I didn't misread anything.

Anything for an argument eh?

 

[KStandBarmyArmy1993]

You’re ignoring the three other names I mentioned to just respond to the point on Fergie.
How did having a three year deal and the illusion of long-term-thinking prevent the players from downing tools under Ole, EtH, Mourinho and even Moyes (who had a six year deal!!)?
You’re also ignoring the fact that Carrick currently being on a six month deal hasn’t had the effect you’re predicting a one-year deal would have, even after coming in after a sacking of a manager that wasn’t sacked due to the players downing tools.

Giving Carrick a one year deal has many positive aspects for the club. It’s financially better in case they need to part ways. The players aren’t playing poorly because he’s only on a 6-month deal so the notion that a one year deal will suddenly make the players depressed is off the mark IMO. It gives the club the possibility to assess Carrick’s credentials under more realistic circumstances ie European football, full season, transfer window, squad management, and it gives the club another year to assess other candidates while not being as financially exposed by a long term deal.

If you think he’d agree to a one year payout on a three-year deal and that would signal more ”longevity” and not signal to the players that he might not be the long-term guy we might as well agree a 15 year contract with a one year payoff if he gets sacked. I don’t think he’d agree to that, because the entire point of the longer contract is financial protection for the manager.

This is spot on. Like I've said elsewhere, there's a lot of managers available this summer but none of them are the absolute best.

As I've also said elsewhere, if Carrick gets the job then focus on bringing in top level coaches that can work alongside him.

 

[Rolaholic]

 

[Sarni]

Yeah I know. That’s why i said if carrick can get us 80 points, he would be in a consideration for a permanent job because that is incredible and promising.

If he only drops 3 points in 17 games (to get us to 80 points) he'll have had by the end of season, not only there would be absolutely no arguments for not keeping him, it'd be utterly ridiculous not to.

We obviously won't get to 80, even going over 70 would be unbelievable achievement, an average of 2.25 pts over the course of 17 games which over full season would get us to 85 points. We haven't been anywhere near that since Fergie left.

If there's not a serious decline in performance v first 4 games in the next 13 then the job should absolutely be his, 70 points or now. Basically if he delivers top 5 finish which he's well on course to, we absolutely have to keep him. Would be extremely deflating not to.

 

[Mike Smalling]

Carrick has a small edge in that he will also represent continuity - at least somewhat. When the season ends, he will have managed almost half a season of PL football for us. The players will know him and his way of playing. If everything continues to go well, it might be considered an unnecessary disruption to again bring in someone new. And he will likely be more flexible on terms compared to the likes of Tuchel and Ancelotti.

 

[Lash]

So far so good with Carrick, I’m really impressed.

One question for the English on here: Carrick has a really flat temperament on the outside. What do you think about that?

He's had nothing contentious to deal with though, so it's hard to say what he'd be like in those situations. It's easy to be calm and collected when it's all going your way.

 

[The Boy]

If you don't appoint Carrick, I can see him being the Spurs manager next season instead.

 

[mctrials23]

If he only drops 3 points in 17 games (to get us to 80 points) he'll have had by the end of season, not only there would be absolutely no arguments for not keeping him, it'd be utterly ridiculous not to.

We obviously won't get to 80, even going over 70 would be unbelievable achievement, an average of 2.25 pts over the course of 17 games which over full season would get us to 85 points. We haven't been anywhere near that since Fergie left.

If there's not a serious decline in performance v first 4 games in the next 13 then the job should absolutely be his, 70 points or now. Basically if he delivers top 5 finish which he's well on course to, we absolutely have to keep him. Would be extremely deflating not to.

Yep. The only thing you can say about almost any manager is "last season they did X". I reckon that if you tracked which manager everyone was sure would do well at United over the past 10 years, 95% of them would have been discounted within 2 years based on actual performance. If you have a manager performing at the required level, you keep them. If they aren't, you replace them.

If Carrick does well until the end of the season you would be a bit mad to sack him. He should be given a 2 year contract and if it comes to the end of next season and hes not performing to expectations you replace him. The squad is the most important thing and you build that to an image and you replace managers when they are no longer delivering.

We are coming into a period in the PL where seemingly the title can be won by being a bit consistent over the season. City and Liverpool aren't the sides they were 3-4 years ago. Arsenal are on track to win the league with something like 84 points. I think with the points they are on track to get, they would only have won it once in the past 13 seasons.

I don't see City or Liverpool fixing their issues next year and I don't see either of them getting back to their peak for years. This season is probably an anomaly and next season will be more competitive at the top but I don't think there is any reason we shouldn't be competing next year with the right players coming in and a good manager. Carrick deserves a shot of being that manager if he gets us top 4 and has us playing well for the rest of the season.

 

[soapythecat]

Carrick 1 year contract

If he continues the way he’s going, I’d be delighted with Carrick. But you can’t give him a 1 year contract - rarely happens and rightly so. Why would he sign a contract that leaves him open to the sack after a poor run? No chance to turn it around. The players would down tools so much earlier if they felt the club doesn’t think he’s good enough for a long contract. So many negatives for a poor contract like that.
If he does enough to get the job, give him the contact he deserves.

 

[Sarni]

If he continues the way he’s going, I’d be delighted with Carrick. But you can’t give him a 1 year contract - rarely happens and rightly so. Why would he sign a contract that leaves him open to the sack after a poor run? No chance to turn it around. The players would down tools so much earlier if they felt the club doesn’t think he’s good enough for a long contract. So many negatives for a poor contract like that.
If he does enough to get the job, give him the contact he deserves.

These fecking players again letting down another manager.

But seriously, it doesn't matter. Any manager is at risk of being fired at any given point, 1-year contract, 3-year contract, it doesn't matter.

 

[NLunited]

I can’t take considering Ancelotti seriously, no matter how well he did at Madrid. The reports from Munich’s players were that he didn’t really coach them.

Tuchel: I’d be hesitant to hire another big ego; no one is bigger than the club.

 

[mbapps]

Carlo or Tommy Tooks sound okay but if Carrick can fashion the chances I'd take his bait