Next Manager Poll

Who should manage us next?

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Just once I’d like us to not miss the boat like we did with Klopp or Pep. Enrique is the only option to actually challenge for trophies, not just pretend to compete and get top 4. The rest don’t impress me and I don’t want another mid table manager. His contract ends in 2027. I doubt the board is smart enough to hold on, build a strong squad in line for him when he arrives.
 
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davidmichael said:
I said at the time we beat City in the FA Cup final a couple of years ago that Tuchel was the best option to go with and no one can convince me that Tuchel as head coach along with Ashworth running the footballing department wasn’t the best option for us, we literally wasted a year and a half instead of being a year and a half being further along in the rebuild.
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ShinjiNinja26 said:
Great news if true!
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philippexyz said:
I said the same at that time, but they didn't have the guts to sack ETH and it all went to shit.

Tuchel is probably not the manager to win the league, but I wanted him then to stabilize the club. He's tactically flexible, clever, pragmatic. More of a cup than league manager from what I've seen(doesn't matter that much). We would probably compete well in cup competitions while becoming standard top 5.

Not a long-term solution, beyond 2-3 years, though.
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Looks like Tuchel is also off the table then. Also Enrique's quotes also don't seem encouraging to me -



The managerial market for the summer increasingly looks less interesting. Increasingly think it'll end up a shootout between Carrick and Nagelsmann. Wouldn't feel terribly confident about either to be honest, if that end up being the case.

Carrick has obviously done better than anyone could have reasonably expected. But worth noting that he also did brilliantly after coming in mid-season at Middlesborough, but ultimately couldn't get them promoted. I don't watch the Championship at all and don't know anything about his tenure there, but it is still worth considering when evaluating him. Based on Boro fans on the internet, his big issues were defensively in the transition (we look OK here so far), unable to break down low blocks (looked inert vs West Ham but remains to be seen really), lack of experience in his backroom staff (solved with Steve Holland), and inability to change games through subs (positive signs so far with Sesko and Cunha). The romantic in me very much wants Carrick to get the job but probably better to try to evaluate his game model more objectively against Nagelsmann's.

Nagelsmann has been put forth as an exciting manager since basically his first day at Hoffenheim, and his Leipzig team were genuinely brilliant to watch. He's also super flexible tactically - his Leipzig team would frequently shift between a back 3 and a back 4 depending on how he felt he could best exploit the opposition's weakness. But then this reportedly became a major source of tension at Bayern where they didn't like how much he built his tactics around the opposition rather than focusing on Bayern's strengths. Generally, I feel like his reputation far exceeds his actual credentials. Before Bayern, he had never actually won a trophy and even there, he only won the league in his first season. He got knocked out by Emery's Villareal in the Champions League. Plus lost 5-0 to Borussia Monchengladbach in the second round of the cup. His most notable achievement is probably the Champions League semi-final appearance with RB Leipzig, but that is from the Covid year where they had single legged knockout ties. If we appoint him, I feel like we are betting on his living up to his potential in the future rather than what he is right now.

All in all, not a very enticing market.
 
Enrique isn't going to issue a public come-and-get-me plea to United through the media with 3 months of PSG's season remaining. Of course, if he signs a new deal, that takes him off the table.
 
My order was Enrique, Tuchel, Iraola. So Iraola is second choice now I guess. He’s a manager whose teams always look to score goals and he’s great at developing players. His defensive record is a bit shoddy but I put that down to personnel as when they had iHuijsen, Zabarnyi and Kerkez last year they had a top defence.

The fact that he’s kept Bournemouth stable at midtable despite their budget, injuries and player sales is a massive testament to his quality. I think he’s ready for the step up for a bigger club.
 
Carrick or Iraola for me. I like what Carrick's done so far in general, and he's a really admirable, calming character to lead our club. He manages the media well and transmits quiet authority. That being said, Middlesbrough fans' criticisms of him seem to faintly ring true based on the last performance against West Ham. I don't want to be reactive based on one substandard result after four great ones, but there were warning signs of Ten Hag and Amorim very early on that ended up becoming massively amplified, so slight alarm bells about Carrick are worth some exploration.

Here are some of the criticisms I saw -
  • Chooses an inexperienced coaching team - one of the criticisms but countered massively with Steve Holland's inclusion
  • Lack of in-game management - tactical tweaks really helped in most, if not all, of the games so far so not so sure on this one
  • Makes subs too late - arguably last game against West Ham confirmed that this might be an issue
  • Can be a bit negative tactically - I would say the balance has largely been good and we needed to get more solid, but this seems a fair criticism in the last match
  • Struggles to form a plan B - potentially this might be true. We don't know yet
  • Starts well but loses steam - not enough data on this

My sense is that a lot of Carrick's weaknesses are made up by Holland's strengths. Yet his strengths are arguably Holland's weaknesses - understated charisma, close connection to the players and so on.

I feel like a good backroom team is equally, if not more important than a strong head coach. Carrick seems to fit in well with everything. But Iraola shows signs of this too, and may have more about him. From what I know, Iraola only took one person with him from Vallecano - Pablo de la Torre, the sports scientist. He was going to take Inigo Perez but he couldn't get a work permit and is now the Rayo manager. This shows adaptability and ability to work within a club led structure.

Maybe Woodgate and Carrick go and Iraola comes in with de la Torre and maybe some new club picks. Maybe we get some of the best coaches in their respective areas in the world and dispel the jobs for the mates notion.

Like Carrick, I also really admire Iraola's character. He doesn't moan or blame others. He's fairly circumspect and calm. He won't meltdown and make it all about himself like Amorim. He's not super engaging or charming but he's a good persona. The type of person we can be proud of as the figurehead of our club, I feel. And also, he's out of contract at the end of the season.

I'd be happy with either, from what I currently know. I probably lean more to Iraola, but ultimately what has to work is the fit and overall chemistry of the coaching staff. We'll learn a lot about Carrick over the coming weeks and the job is very much his to lose. It makes sense to loosely court Iraola too and really get a sense of him and how he works.
 
So realistically we aren't getting Enrique and Ancelotti right? Nagelsmann is the only managed out there who is proven to be good enough to want to prioritize him and there are the Vivell links. So id understand him over Carrick. Otherwise it'll really just be Carrick. My feeling was that Tuchel was our top choice but that's not happening, that's twice he would have rejected us so I think that ship has sailed.
 
This is good news. So it narrows down a bit. I'd be very surprised if we were to choose De Zerbi over staying with Carrick. Nagelsmann might prove tempting for the board, Enrique is just not going to happen same way we are not signing the best players from clubs ahead of us, and Alonso might be keeping an eye on that Slot situation.

I suspect we will continue with Carrick.
 
If nothing else, Tuchel signing a new contract stops "England manager for Manchester United job" being as easy a story for the English media to kick around for the next few months. I saw stories saying he was "emerging as our preferred option" as recently as yesterday.
 
sullydnl said:
If nothing else, Tuchel signing a new contract stops "England manager for Manchester United job" being as easy a story for the English media to kick around for the next few months. I saw stories saying he was "emerging as our preferred option" as recently as yesterday.
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Yep and you can almost guarnteed if England didn't win the WC we'd have gotten the blame from them
 
Might as well just stick with Carrick at this rate if he has a strong end to the season.
 
bosnian_red said:
So realistically we aren't getting Enrique and Ancelotti right? Nagelsmann is the only managed out there who is proven to be good enough to want to prioritize him and there are the Vivell links. So id understand him over Carrick. Otherwise it'll really just be Carrick. My feeling was that Tuchel was our top choice but that's not happening, that's twice he would have rejected us so I think that ship has sailed.
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I was alwasy surpirsed Tuchel was ever an option after what came out last time we interviewed him. I think Nagelsmann noise will grow massively now and the Vivell connection will only intensify that.
 
El Jefe said:
My order was Enrique, Tuchel, Iraola. So Iraola is second choice now I guess. He’s a manager whose teams always look to score goals and he’s great at developing players. His defensive record is a bit shoddy but I put that down to personnel as when they had iHuijsen, Zabarnyi and Kerkez last year they had a top defence.

The fact that he’s kept Bournemouth stable at midtable despite their budget, injuries and player sales is a massive testament to his quality. I think he’s ready for the step up for a bigger club.
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Yeah, I would take him outside of the big names. He plays the type of football most suited to this club. There's obviously quite a bit of risk when those managers make the step up, especially after what happened with Potter and Frank in the last few years. But I think he has more personality than them, and Spanish managers have been very successful in taking big jobs in the PL.
 
How fecking stupid is Ratcliffe to come out with populist nonsense right now, he looks like a proper racist cnut.

I bet it makes some players and coaches think twice before signing for MU.
 
El Jefe said:
My order was Enrique, Tuchel, Iraola. So Iraola is second choice now I guess. He’s a manager whose teams always look to score goals and he’s great at developing players. His defensive record is a bit shoddy but I put that down to personnel as when they had iHuijsen, Zabarnyi and Kerkez last year they had a top defence.

The fact that he’s kept Bournemouth stable at midtable despite their budget, injuries and player sales is a massive testament to his quality. I think he’s ready for the step up for a bigger club.
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Yep, he's been my vote since before Amorim.

They are knocking on the door to europe now and he is the closest style in terms of suiting "the United way". Being the captain of Bilbao, he'll also get the importance of the academy and local lads to the club. He ticks all the boxes for me.
 
NLunited said:
How fecking stupid is Ratcliffe to come out with populist nonsense right now, he looks like a proper racist cnut.

I bet it makes some players and coaches think twice before signing for MU.
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He does.

However I doubt how much of an issue that would be. There’s plenty of awful people running big clubs around the world and it generally doesn’t seem an issue.
 
Looks like Tuchel is off the table then, unless he has a really poor WC and leaves by mutual consent, in which case we wouldn’t want him then and none of us want that, anyway!
 
Really thought it would be Tuchel. Not sure where we go from here now tbh because I can’t see Enrique taking the job. The pool to pick from doesn’t look so great all of a sudden.
 
Current bookies' favourite to be in charge for next season is, unsurprisingly, Carrick, followed by Glasner, Southgate and then Nagelsmann.

Nagelsmann, like Tuchel, has extended his contract until the end of UEFA Euro 2028, so he's probably an unlikely option. I haven't yet seen enough of Carrick to come to a judgement on his long-term suitability for the role, but I am absolutely opposed to Glasner or Southgate being appointed.
 
Shame - Nagelsmann is also out

De Zerbi it is then else it would be Carrick.
Iraola is also a good candidate .
Not really convinced with Glasner or Poch
 
NLunited said:
How fecking stupid is Ratcliffe to come out with populist nonsense right now, he looks like a proper racist cnut.

I bet it makes some players and coaches think twice before signing for MU.
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Manchester City have attracted some of the best players in the world, and I don’t even have an iota of the time to unpack what’s wrong with their ownership. They even attacted the best manager despite his activism. The same goes for Chelsea and plenty of other clubs. Our own Avram Glazer was on Epstein’s island, for God’s sake.

Ratcliffe, however wrong, has voiced an opinion shared by many in Britain. One that’s frequently given more airtime than the alternative. It will not change anything at Manchester United.

I wish this outrage was present for all who espouse such nonsense.
 
Given our current state, the list of candidates is going to get more and more underwhelming. Tuchel rejected United a second time extending with England, and I doubt Enrique will want this job with PSG doing well and potentially being the heir apparent to Pep at city. Ancelotti will manage Brazil at the World Cup and will likely make yet another return to Madrid. At his age, why would he want this job? He has nothing left to prove.

So who’s left at an elite level to take this job? Iraola, Glasner or Silva don’t exactly move the needle. Conte would be great but I can imagine him hating our current football structure and having to take orders and feedback from Wilcox. Emery would be a decent choice but he’s an oddball and I can imagine him crumbling under the intense pressure of managing United. It’s not looking great.
 
NLunited said:
How fecking stupid is Ratcliffe to come out with populist nonsense right now, he looks like a proper racist cnut.

I bet it makes some players and coaches think twice before signing for MU.
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Be realistic, when did player or managers give a rats ass who they work for, if anything the likes of Berlusconi and state owners seem to do just fine.
 
OverratedOpinion said:
Shame, he's the best coach we could have realistically gotten this summer.
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Not sure, failing with Bayern seems quite a difficult thing to do given how Kompany is doing - I feel like the CL win with Chelsea does some incredibly heavy lifting for his recent experience given that was coming up to 5 years ago.

His only full season at Chelsea is worse than ETH's with us for some context in the PL. Not that that is bad, but it's certainly not elite. With Bayern he got their worst league finish in in a quarter of a century.
 
tomaldinho1 said:
Not sure, failing with Bayern seems quite a difficult thing to do given how Kompany is doing - I feel like the CL win with Chelsea does some incredibly heavy lifting for his recent experience given that was coming up to 5 years ago.

His only full season at Chelsea is worse than ETH's with us for some context in the PL. Not that that is bad, but it's certainly not elite. With Bayern he got their worst league finish in in a quarter of a century.
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Indeed, I’m wary of him for failing to win the league with Bayern.
 
People seem keen on Iraola but i dont think he has the credentials to manage such a big club.

Just look at what happened with with the likes of Potter and Frank. These managers can't handle the expectations of a top 4 club.
 
Not upset we're not getting him - however I voted for him as I think he's a very good coach and would have done the job here. Plus he's impressed me with how he's got England playing too.

Not really sure who I we should go for now though as I don't think Carrick is the answer yet.
 
Time to remove Tuchel from the poll.

For me, I don't know if Carrick is the best option to deliver success. What I do know, is that success wouldn't feel better under any other manager. Carrick being the one to take us back to the top is the dream scenario, however unlikely that'll be. I'm prepared to gamble on that
 
FootyGirl88 said:
People seem keen on Iraola but i dont think he has the credentials to manage such a big club.

Just look at what happened with with the likes of Potter and Frank. These managers can't handle the expectations of a top 4 club.
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The head coach model means a younger, likely cheaper coach and a much more active revolving door most likely. This is sadly how modern football clubs are all going to be run, coaches will be seen as vastly less important than those in charge of shaping the squad. I personally think there is a single outstanding candidate in world football - Enrique - and even he carries a decent bit of risk. He's committed to PSG.

So you mitigate risk by going for PL experience + a proven attacking setup. The reason I say this latter part is it's obvious lots of coaches can set teams to counter and do moderately well, if this is the plan we should just keep Carrick. This really leaves very few names: iraola, de zerbi, emery, maresca, that's really it with Tuchel out (it's arguable he's "attacking" anyway).

Of those the stand out is Emery but he has transfer control to a degree at Villa and if he's going to move he could likely go Real. De Zerbi is a nutjob and Ineos already broke off communications with him the first time as per the Athletic as he wanted too much money + now he's been sacked again. Iraola seems the most sensible choice whilst being open to the fact that, should he not do well enough, you at least are building towards a high press 433 variation and so whoever next comes in should have a broadly similar style.
 
I’ve not given up hope on Nagelsmann. Credentials are valid criticism but I like his aggressive and flexible approach.
 
In a perfect world, we sign Ancelotti and keep Carrick as an assistant. Have some continuity along with a world class manager.
 
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