Enrique hasn't officially extended yet, however get the impression he's happy in Paris and will do soon
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Are there actually Utd fans who want Ole back?I have seen some people voting for Eddie Howe too which I dont really get. I cant see Enrique leaving PSG so realistically its probably going to be Tuchel or Carrick. Right now, I am leaning towards Carrick and as long as he keeps winning and we sneak into the top four, the board has no choice but to give him the job.
Sir Jim has probably already got Sir Gareth under contract for the summer. A proper English manager to start building a proper English squad or something.
Because it’s all one big circle of noise. The fans and pundits were all over it for him to stay. For weeks leading up to it journalists were saying he was getting the chop, and if I recall this was pretty much backed up when he was eventually sacked.
If the fans make enough noise and Carrick has any sort of decent end to the season, they can keep him here. Especially if the pundits and journos get involved too. And if the fans are largely positive then they will. Do you disagree?
It’ll be Southgate I think.
Arteta couldn't break down a low block last night. How long has Arteta been here? In the Premier league. The best of them struggle against low blocks occasionally.
We miss a bit of penetration from Dorgu atm.
Oh God, please NO
Good shout. Hasn‘t managed a big club, but has proved he can deliver trophies.
I am sceptical that Ineos factored in any online noise from United fans into their decision making when choosing not to sack Ten Hag. They interviewed other managers that summer and, once they didn't find a suitable replacement, they decided to stick with Ten Hag, likely because that FA Cup win and the couple of PL games before that showed glimpses of promise when he had a fully fit squad. I don't think the decision was swayed by fan opinion. There weren't any games for 2-3 months after that FA Cup final, so matchgoing United fans didn't even have the chance to make their voices heard.
Just feels like Carrick’s to lose now. The seasoned managers that have been at big clubs and done it all seem to be off the table. Everyone else, be it Iraola, Glasner or whomever, are a gamble.
Is Carrick the man to deliver titles and European success? No idea, but even if he’s not, just getting us into the CL for a couple of seasons on the bounce is enough of a platform for the short to medium term. Recruitment has undoubtedly improved, so maybe he ends up doing, say, 2 1/2 seasons, before an elite manager takes us from a much better position. By that point, the manager market looks totally different and Keith Andrews or someone is leading us to Premier League title.
Is Carrick the man to deliver titles and European success? No idea, but even if he’s not, just getting us into the CL for a couple of seasons on the bounce is enough of a platform for the short to medium term. Recruitment has undoubtedly improved, so maybe he ends up doing, say, 2 1/2 seasons, before an elite manager takes us from a much better position. By that point, the manager market looks totally different and Keith Andrews or someone is leading us to Premier League title.
I hope we at least go all in for Enrique, if he's committed to staying at PSG then let's just ask Alonso if he would be open to taking the job in summer
Jimmy McNulty will be the main man by then
This is fecking depressing. Do people seriously think we're going to attract a top manager after Amorim was thrown under a bus by the hierarchy? What decent manager will come in when they know they'll be limited to 3-4 signings a year yet it's clear as day to anyone with working eyesight that this dressing room needs a proper overhaul, and as soon as it inevitably falls apart everyone turns on the manager? feck that.
Sure as eggs are eggs.......I feel this one has been destined.
The charitable treatment of Amorim will, ironically, be quite attractive to any coach. ETH was also treated too leniently. We’ve been soft on underperforming coaches and overpaid them whilst doing so. Any coach outside of a select 3-4 names will be interested give we can spend big and it’s also a massive payoff if they fail.
I think it's more likely that Carrick will become the England manager than Southgate being installed here as "head coach".
Be serious, what else were the club supposed to do with Amorim? The fact he's being blown out of the water by a guy whose only experience as a head coach prior to appointment was at Middlesbrough in the Championships says it all.
The coach has a responsibility to improve the players they inherit. We were probably at our lowest ebb for a very long time at the time Amorim took over and he still managed to continue the descent by stubbornly persisting with a system that didn't work, playing players out of position and taking jabs at his own players in the press multiple times.
We're already a much more attractive proposition to any incoming coach after the reset that's happened since Amorim has left the club, whether any of the top coaches will be available come summer time is a different proposition.
They didn't need to throw Amorim under the bus, he went and stood in the middle of the motorway by choice.
Plus our owner's a racist wankstain.
Can he defeat a low block with the current squad or will he need more quality to implement his style?
This kind of question is besides the point. We have improved the squad in the last transfer windows.
If Enrique can‘t break down teams with what we already have, he‘s not the man. Our squad should challenge for top five.
Current options are not looking good tbh.
Carrick is giving it a great shot.
Yeah unless Enrique or Alonso actually become realistic possibilities then would stick with Carrick
Does it? We're currently 4th in a season in which we've been managed by Amorim & an interim manager, with a relatively young squad.
There are areas that need improvement, but if our squad needs an overhaul from here then so does almost every team in the league.
Same thing I’m thinking
This must be a bait post.
So why didn’t he come in a month ago ?
It wasn't just Amorim, but Ten Hag, Mou etc were all damaged by tenure with us.
That said, it's not obvious that those facts alone deter other managers. However, all of the credible journalists have now reported that of Tuchel, Ancelotti, and Enrique -- all three are out of consideration for United. Those were the only proven top managers. They are firm No, so whatever the reasons we can forget about top managers.
The only one close to that list (but imo not nearly in their league) is Nagelsman. Personally I do not think he will come either.
And after that you have managers that are not only far from the above list, but also fairly unexciting characters such as Poch and De Zerbi.
Even if Poch is more ezperienced (and he is) I would rather let Carrick fight for his future than Poch. Will probably fail, though, and Club probably wants us to want Carrick anyway, because he will be cheapest and least demanding
Future is bleak...
Its increasingly looking like it may ebd up being Carrick, and if we finish the season with top foyr and continue to perform the way we have been, i think I'd be OK with that. I would've been keen on Tuchel or Ancelotti, but maybe its better for allthat theyve been ruled out, as I was worried about them having less tine to plan and get to grips with everything after a World Cup.
All that said, i think we should seriously consider Iraola. He has has a substantial body of really impressive work with Bournmouth behind him, and plays a style of football I want at our club. He's demonstrated he can improve players, which we're desperate for. The only real questiin mark is whether he can handle the pressure at this level, but given there are no remaining candidates available that have demonstrated that, he may be worth a punt. At the very least, I hope we're lining up some talks.
All that said, i think we should seriously consider Iraola. He has has a substantial body of really impressive work with Bournmouth behind him, and plays a style of football I want at our club. He's demonstrated he can improve players, which we're desperate for. The only real questiin mark is whether he can handle the pressure at this level, but given there are no remaining candidates available that have demonstrated that, he may be worth a punt. At the very least, I hope we're lining up some talks.
Say what you want about Gareth Southgate but the simple fact is he hates Manchester United. Always has and always will, which should automatically disqualify him. It would be like hiring Patrick Viera or Steven Gerrard.
I feel this is somewhat overlooked with Moyes and Mourinho. United had some crazy matches against Everton and Chelsea and they were by no means friendly. Although the underlying respect for the club was there with both, I always felt they wouldn't go to war for this club. Moyes cleared out a title winning team of coaches and brought in his 12th - 17th place coaches and Jose lived in a hotel room for two years. No fecking respect for the job they were tasked with.
Enrique, Emery, Howe, Carrick or two year contract for Ancelloti while looking for another messiah to save our inadequate owners.
I'm more interested in our midfield signings this summer then a coach.
After all these years the manager market has opened up nicely for the club and the timing is perfect. Multiple candidates available and the club showing visible improvement on the pitch and a plan on recruiting players to play, not dance for social media. The coach should be treated the same.
I feel this is somewhat overlooked with Moyes and Mourinho. United had some crazy matches against Everton and Chelsea and they were by no means friendly. Although the underlying respect for the club was there with both, I always felt they wouldn't go to war for this club. Moyes cleared out a title winning team of coaches and brought in his 12th - 17th place coaches and Jose lived in a hotel room for two years. No fecking respect for the job they were tasked with.
Enrique, Emery, Howe, Carrick or two year contract for Ancelloti while looking for another messiah to save our inadequate owners.
I'm more interested in our midfield signings this summer then a coach.
After all these years the manager market has opened up nicely for the club and the timing is perfect. Multiple candidates available and the club showing visible improvement on the pitch and a plan on recruiting players to play, not dance for social media. The coach should be treated the same.
I hope Carrick does well and takes it. The options at the moment are very underwhelming. I would prefer either Xabi Alonso or Emery.
Thrown under the bus? The man was given license to get rid of the players he didn't want and given a vastly improved forward line in return. You could argue he should have got a midfielder as well but the delusional fool refused to play the potentially world class one he already had. He managed the worst half season I've ever seen and was still heavily backed, the only reason he lasted so long this year is because he gaslight us into thinking we have a relegation level squad. Most big clubs would've had him out the gate the second spurs won the Europa league. The "dressing room overhaul" has been done in getting rid of bad influences, hopefully the sick notes are next. it's the coaches job to get the best out of what's left, not to throw the toys out of the pram and blame recruitment because his coaching and tactics are totally inept at the highest level.
How did you arrive at that conclusion?
The whole interviewing other coaches and not finding a better option just felt like lip service to me. There were clearly better coaches out there. I think they knew the consensus amongst fans and pundits was that there was no way they could sack him now, and that’s why they decided what they did. I mean they went for Amorim in the end and he was available, there was actually a very long list of coaches available. I’d say the best set of options we’d had in a long time.
I have my doubts about Sir Jim leadership but I dont think he is naive enough to appoint Southgate as the next Utd manager. That would feel like one of the most uninspiring appointments possible.
Yes it would be completely gutting to go from Carrick to Southgate.
Agreed, it wouldn’t make any sense. Not when he could just stick with a more popular English manager in Carrick instead.
I still feel Art Vandelay's work in the Eredivisie is being unfairly overlooked in these discussions
I think we've had enough of these “flash in the pan” promising managers who do well in a small pond but then drown when they get thrown into the ocean that is Utd.
If we are going to take a gamble I’d be far happier with one of our own who at least knows the pressures and will get the full support of the fans.