Next Manager Poll

Who should manage us next?

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Imagine we were a club where results were everything.

Surely you would put out a good old fashioned job adverisment along the lines of: 'Manchester United, seeking interim-manager for the next 6 months. Aim of finishing top 4/5 to qualify for Champions League football next season. No transfers in/out during January. Please apply below...'

Can you imagine the list of experienced managers who would apply to be our interim manager? No suggestion of a further contract, no experience as a former United player necessary.... We would have an abundance of adequate names who are more qualified than Solskjaer to lead us until the end of the season.

Ther are managers out there who would add 'qualifying for the Champions League' with Man Utd as one of their greatest achievements. It's so narrow minded to not look beyond former United players.
 
van Nistelrooy said:
Imagine we were a club where results were everything.

Surely you would put out a good old fashioned job adverisment along the lines of: 'Manchester United, seeking interim-manager for the next 6 months. Aim of finishing top 4/5 to qualify for Champions League football next season. No transfers in/out during January. Please apply below...'

Can you imagine the list of experienced managers who would apply to be our interim manager? No suggestion of a further contract, no experience as a former United player necessary.... We would have an abundance of adequate names who are more qualified than Solskjaer to lead us until the end of the season.

Ther are managers out there who would add 'qualifying for the Champions League' with Man Utd as one of their greatest achievements. It's so narrow minded to not look beyond former United players.
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You ain't getting it, Ruud!
 
Enrique would be my first choice as well but I can't see why he would leave PSG for United. We're going to find this job harder to fill than expected. Club management isn't exactly stellar and club debt and financial rules are such that we really can't rebuild the squad all that much in the short run -- and in today's world, there is no such thing as a long-term rebuilding plan for a club of United's global stature.

But if Luis says he's in, let's bring him in!
 
pascell said:
This is always the go to answer people use. But if theres less intensity in Ligue 1, that would mean PSG wouldnt be as sharp, especially with how many games the top 4 teams play in the CL.

These are professional athletes with teams having large squads.

Saying PSG won because they played less games than Arsenal is pretty lazy.
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Disagree with lack of sharpness.

Not being exhausted would I think be more of an advantage than having played too many games.

"These are professional athletes" - they're still not super-human; the schedule for the key players of the top clubs of regular weekend + mid-week CL fixture is still incredibly demanding.

The Premier League is the most intense and physically demanding of all the top 5 leagues. Ligue 1 is the least physically demanding of all the top 5 leagues. The games are less draining, they have fewer of them, plus they can often win games and the league easily while resting key players due to standard of opposition. It would be easier for their key players to remain fresh to save their energy for the CL.

See this analysis from 2020, and the gap from the PL to others will have likely only increased since:

https://medium.com/skillcorner/lets...-big-5-european-football-leagues-bcb04ebb835c

https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_...-league-such-tough-leap-other-leagues-players

eg:

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RedRocket9908 said:
If this is true why were they beaten 3-0 by Chelsea in the Club World Cup final?
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I don't think that nothing competition really matters. Or are you saying that Enrique isn't all that and would be a failure in the PL with United 'cos his team lost to Chelsea?!...
 
Enrique to rebuild the midfield and force management into buying the next Joao Neves/Vitinha types who can control a game. Once he says no, I think Nagelsmann makes the most sense.

Trying to buy a squad for Amorim does seem to have set us up fairly well for a Nagelsmann/Rangnick Red Bull 4-2-2-2:

-Gets Mbuemo and Amad in the team: Mbeumo as the main goalscorer in the front 2 with Sesko, Amad as the right-sided AM. Cunha has played it too at RB and he's a logical option in a front 2.
-Sesko earned his move off of playing in this formation
-Dorgu (athleticism) and Amass (dribbling) give us 2 shots at finding an LB who can provide width, which you need at fullback in this system, and a year to learn it/develop while Shaw starts in his final year

We need to sign at minimum 2 CMs (and that's with Mainoo or someone else already here being the 3rd guy you need for rotation/injuries/suspensions) but that's true of every formation that exists.


-----Sesko---Mbuemo------ (Cunha, Zirkzee Replacement)
-----Bruno------------Amad--- (Mount, Cunha)
--------CM1------CM2---------- (Mainoo, Ugarte)
Shaw----------------------Dalot (Dorgu, Mazraoui)
------Lisandro--DeLigt------ (Heaven, Yoro)

Nobody there looks out of position to me and lots of people in close to or the ideal roles for their skillsets. We'll need to upgrade with transfers at RB, maybe CB, and Bruno will need replacing soon enough, but that looks like a solid base if we get the right 2 midfielders in.

We have no proper LWs, our #10 is aging out, our fullbacks aren't giant CBs who can defend and set piece us to a dominant defensive record like Arsenal's, it's unclear how to use Mbuemo and Amad in a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 and they would probably be the first 2 names I'd back to be good starters here the next 5 years all factors considered.

The blemish on Nagelsmann's record is he got sacked at Bayern with an 86 points in 38 games (Bundesliga 34, but easier to use Prem numbers we're used to) pace overall and his replacement Kompany at 89 in 38 pace, but that small difference is easily explained by Nagelsmann coaching his 2nd season with no Lewandowski or Kane - both at 1 goal per game - and instead a washed Sadio Mane (outscored by United legend Odion Ighalo in the Saudi League the next season) and Choupo-Moting ((to be fair his numbers are close to Kane and Lewandowski, unlike Mane's much uglier ones) splitting time. Identical record as Kompany plus 3 more draws, and if Lewandowski stays one more year or Kane comes a year earlier or they bought smarter than Mane, unlikely there's any difference at all.
 
Godfather said:
Enough with the experiments. The more I think about it the more I want a proven elite manager. Give me one of Enrique/Conte/Tuchel/Nagelsmann.
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Yeah I definitely want a proven elite manager, however when you hear what Ornstein and Whitwell say it sounds very much like they are targeting younger head coach.
 
Enrique clearly ahead in the poll.

But why would he even consider to leave PSG, currently a top 3 team in Europe, for the mess at United?
 
Conte is pretty much the best option.

He’s pretty much auditioning for it by getting our unwanted players in and making them look like world beaters.

He’s won the league too with Chelsea so there won’t be issues of him coming in unprepared.
 
ManhattanRed said:
Tuchel would never agree to that. He is manager of England in a WC year. It wouldn’t land well at all.
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Yup. If it was Liverpool or one of the London clubs, the media wouldn’t make a fuss over it.

But once we’re involved, it’s going to be a shit fest and everybody will blame United for being a distraction when England inevitably fails to win the World Cup.
 
If they're serious about the PL experience thing, that narrows the list down to these names:

Conte - Has a big personality and has previously fallen out with clubs, so I don't think it will work
Emery - I'm not too keen on his style of football. It seems more reactive than proactive, and he'll be very difficult to get
Glasner - Probably not good enough. His team has very low possession stats
Howe - Has already ruled himself out
Iraola - Probably not the big name they're looking for. Could be a backup option
Maresca - Could have got him now if they wanted, so that isn't happening
McKenna - Another backup option if they miss out on the big names
Silva - I don't think he's good enough
Tuchel - Similar to Conte. He would probably want a big say on transfers, so I don't think it will work with the current board
Ole - Not good enough
Ancelotti - Would probably be happy to work as a head coach with a limited say on transfers
Southgate - Not good enough
De Zerbi - Has already turned down United once, saying he went to Marseille for the passion and not money, so move on
Pochettino - Seems to have regressed as a manager. His recent club manager stints weren't impressive

So from that list, Ancelotti is probably the most realistic of the big names, but there are question marks about his age.
 
B. Munich said:
Enrique clearly ahead in the poll.

But why would he even consider to leave PSG, currently a top 3 team in Europe, for the mess at United?
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Manage in the best domestic league in world football.
Challenge himself!
 
elmo said:
I mean the poll is pretty much a wish list, not who think will get the job.
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Then you could include Pep, Klopp, Flick or Alonso as well.

The exchange here would be more focused and productive, if unavailable or unrealistic options weren't discussed.
 
elmo said:
Yup. If it was Liverpool or one of the London clubs, the media wouldn’t make a fuss over it.

But once we’re involved, it’s going to be a shit fest and everybody will blame United for being a distraction when England inevitably fails to win the World Cup.
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Yeah that's a very valid concern for Tuchel
 
This is the order I would approach candidates but no chance the club will actually do that

First Enrique
Second Ancelotti/Tuchel
Third Nagelsmann
Fourth Iraola/De Zerbi/Glasner
Fifth Pochettino
 
Thought he’d actually said he wasn’t renewing and wanted PL action. Whether we are in his thoughts or he fancies a go with the Berts…. ?

I think Ancelotti said he wouldn’t mind another stab at the PL and previously made a reference to United but don’t know if that still stands?

If neither of them 2, then the Villa guy
 
For a change I'd like to see a manager that can actually do what the big name managers do - get the best out of a squad, before starting a buying spree. Someone who can adapt, show results and then start asking for transfers.
 
Jund said:
For a change I'd like to see a manager that can actually do what the big name managers do - get the best out of a squad, before starting a buying spree. Someone who can adapt, show results and then start asking for transfers.
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Coach should be getting best out of the squad but we should always be looking to improve our squad our aim is to compete and ultimately win PL and CL trust me we are long way from that with this squad irrespective of How good coach does .
 
B. Munich said:
Enrique clearly ahead in the poll.

But why would he even consider to leave PSG, currently a top 3 team in Europe, for the mess at United?
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It's more blind hope than anything else but if he was to fancy a real challenge then there is no better club for it. :lol:

Of course he could also follow Guardiola at City, where winning will be a foregone conclusion. Winning with us would be a far greater achievement.
 
elmo said:
Conte is pretty much the best option.

He’s pretty much auditioning for it by getting our unwanted players in and making them look like world beaters.

He’s won the league too with Chelsea so there won’t be issues of him coming in unprepared.
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The guy is a complete no brainer for the reasons stated above.
 
neverdie said:
Yep, I am all in on the Ancelotti-in bandwagon. I think he's exactly what we need. The only other I'd take before him is Emery but he'd be much harder to get imo. Huge fan of both and Carlo is a fecking legend which is rare, for me, for non-Utd managers. I just like how he plays/coaches and conducts himself. Commands respect almost without demanding it -- a legend of the game. Plays great football too. Made for this job.
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What makes you think that? Personally, as someone who really likes Ancelotti, I think United would be a really bad fit for him. Ancelotti thrives in situations with an established hierarchy and leadership structure in his teams. He has a very laissez faire approach to man management and that only tends to work, if the players can handle that and have enough ambition and intrinsic motivation to not abuse the liberties Ancelotti offers them.
So ideally you have some leaders on and off the field, who are able to give the team structure on the field and lead by example off the field.
I don’t see those players at United.
He also loves to have central midfielders who can control the game. Which you also lack.

I think getting Ancelotti would be the wrong signing at the wrong time for you.
 
croadyman said:
This is the order I would approach candidates but no chance the club will actually do that

First Enrique
Second Ancelotti/Tuchel
Third Nagelsmann
Fourth Iraola/De Zerbi/Glasner
Fifth Pochettino
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This sounds about right.
 
NoPace said:
Enrique to rebuild the midfield and force management into buying the next Joao Neves/Vitinha types who can control a game. Once he says no, I think Nagelsmann makes the most sense.

Trying to buy a squad for Amorim does seem to have set us up fairly well for a Nagelsmann/Rangnick Red Bull 4-2-2-2:

-Gets Mbuemo and Amad in the team: Mbeumo as the main goalscorer in the front 2 with Sesko, Amad as the right-sided AM. Cunha has played it too at RB and he's a logical option in a front 2.
-Sesko earned his move off of playing in this formation
-Dorgu (athleticism) and Amass (dribbling) give us 2 shots at finding an LB who can provide width, which you need at fullback in this system, and a year to learn it/develop while Shaw starts in his final year

We need to sign at minimum 2 CMs (and that's with Mainoo or someone else already here being the 3rd guy you need for rotation/injuries/suspensions) but that's true of every formation that exists.


-----Sesko---Mbuemo------ (Cunha, Zirkzee Replacement)
-----Bruno------------Amad--- (Mount, Cunha)
--------CM1------CM2---------- (Mainoo, Ugarte)
Shaw----------------------Dalot (Dorgu, Mazraoui)
------Lisandro--DeLigt------ (Heaven, Yoro)

Nobody there looks out of position to me and lots of people in close to or the ideal roles for their skillsets. We'll need to upgrade with transfers at RB, maybe CB, and Bruno will need replacing soon enough, but that looks like a solid base if we get the right 2 midfielders in.

We have no proper LWs, our #10 is aging out, our fullbacks aren't giant CBs who can defend and set piece us to a dominant defensive record like Arsenal's, it's unclear how to use Mbuemo and Amad in a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 and they would probably be the first 2 names I'd back to be good starters here the next 5 years all factors considered.

The blemish on Nagelsmann's record is he got sacked at Bayern with an 86 points in 38 games (Bundesliga 34, but easier to use Prem numbers we're used to) pace overall and his replacement Kompany at 89 in 38 pace, but that small difference is easily explained by Nagelsmann coaching his 2nd season with no Lewandowski or Kane - both at 1 goal per game - and instead a washed Sadio Mane (outscored by United legend Odion Ighalo in the Saudi League the next season) and Choupo-Moting ((to be fair his numbers are close to Kane and Lewandowski, unlike Mane's much uglier ones) splitting time. Identical record as Kompany plus 3 more draws, and if Lewandowski stays one more year or Kane comes a year earlier or they bought smarter than Mane, unlikely there's any difference at all.
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The blemish with Nagelsmann is, that he wasn’t able to control the locker room at all and was clearly out of his depth in regards to his man management. The football was also extremely shaky and our campions league performances were really bad at time. He performed worse than the numbers you presented and to me has shown that he wasn’t ready to manage a big club. And I believe he hasn’t shown anything with Germany to change that perception.
He also has a tendency to make up very weird and complete tactical approaches that are clearly too complicated for the team. That tends to come back to bite him quite often.

He wasn’t good enough for Bayern. He might be good enough for a top club one day. But I don’t think he’s there yet.
 
People talking about the rebuild at PSG and crediting Enrique, but do you know what PSG did? They went out and hired Luis Campos. One of the most recognised DoF in the world, with a CV and proven track record in this role. And yes, this is the same guy who was unemployed when we were restructuring, and was basically asking for us to give him the job.

Perhaps United need to try and do the one thing we have never tried, which is the one thing that other successful clubs do, and just go out and get the best guys in for the job.
 
HTG said:
What makes you think that? Personally, as someone who really likes Ancelotti, I think United would be a really bad fit for him. Ancelotti thrives in situations with an established hierarchy and leadership structure in his teams. He has a very laissez faire approach to man management and that only tends to work, if the players can handle that and have enough ambition and intrinsic motivation to not abuse the liberties Ancelotti offers them.
So ideally you have some leaders on and off the field, who are able to give the team structure on the field and lead by example off the field.
I don’t see those players at United.
He also loves to have central midfielders who can control the game. Which you also lack.

I think getting Ancelotti would be the wrong signing at the wrong time for you.
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I think that's overly pessimistic and what you describe, though not entirely true imo, would be negatives regardless of who was to manage us.

As for the midfield. You're right on this. But we're going to buying minimally two midfielders in the summer and it's the worst kept open secret in football. We, here, all hope one is Anderson and perhaps the other is Wharton (would be ideal) but if not, that is, nonetheless the kind of caliber we want and with Casemiro on a reduced wage, that is not a bad midfield or one incapable of controlling a game, either.
 
B. Munich said:
Then you could include Pep, Klopp, Flick or Alonso as well.

The exchange here would be more focused and productive, if unavailable or unrealistic options weren't discussed.
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Enrique is out of contract in 2027 and allegedly won’t be signing again with PSG. I don’t think it’s unreasonable at all to at least find out what his thoughts are as regards working in England.
 
I saw Poch is being thrown into the mix on several websites alongside those others involved in thr World Cup and who may be available afterwards


Please no. I don’t think his record will have us as consistent challengers.

If anything, if we appoint him, it says more about INEOS ambition, become a team that develops young players and makes money selling them.
 
elmo said:
Conte is pretty much the best option.

He’s pretty much auditioning for it by getting our unwanted players in and making them look like world beaters.
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He's making them look like Serie A beaters - which is a completely different, and much lesser thing.
 
I love this club but I wonder if sometimes our yearning for nostalgia and tapping into the rich tapestry of our history is actually stifling our development.

We need an interim manager until the end of the season and we're looking at Carrick and Ole as the front runners......really???

Southgate
Joachim Low
Maresca (maybe too soon after Chelsea)
Postecoglou
Xavi

I didn't want Southgate as our manager but I would accept him as interim and give him a 5 month audition, same as Ange or any of the others.

What is the obsession with going back to former players who never really cut it when they had the opportunity?
 
golden_blunder said:
I saw Poch is being thrown into the mix on several websites alongside those others involved in thr World Cup and who may be available afterwards


Please no. I don’t think his record will have us as consistent challengers.

If anything, if we appoint him, it says more about INEOS ambition, become a team that develops young players and makes money selling them.
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Challengers for what?

We are probably in a position where we need to go for the guy before the guy. I don't think anyone outside Tuchel and Ancelotti is a sure hit to get us challenging for titles.
 
VP89 said:
Challengers for what?

We are probably in a position where we need to go for the guy before the guy. I don't think anyone outside Tuchel and Ancelotti is a sure hit to get us challenging for titles.
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Challengers for anything

I don’t see why we shouldn’t aim for the likes of Tuchel, Ancellotti etc

We’d be replacing Poch again in 2 years
 
Ronaldo's Love Child said:
I love this club but I wonder if sometimes our yearning for nostalgia and tapping into the rich tapestry of our history is actually stifling our development.

We need an interim manager until the end of the season and we're looking at Carrick and Ole as the front runners......really???

Southgate
Joachim Low
Maresca (maybe too soon after Chelsea)
Postecoglou
Xavi

I didn't want Southgate as our manager but I would accept him as interim and give him a 5 month audition, same as Ange or any of the others.

What is the obsession with going back to former players who never really cut it when they had the opportunity?
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Same thing happened with Liverpool. Through the 90s living in history and the old boot room culture. It was only when they moved away from this nostalgia did they properly return.
You're never going to progress living in the past
 
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