Yeah agree.
I want a manager who's the best scout at the club. I want spotting talent and putting together an XI that makes sense to be his biggest attribute.
We can still have an overall policy like you say of age limits and injury records.
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I want a manager who's the best scout at the club. I want spotting talent and putting together an XI that makes sense to be his biggest attribute.
We can still have an overall policy like you say of age limits and injury records.
Ten Hag and Amorim have never had any success in building a good team at a top club, especially inside a league as competitive as yours. I don’t think the comparison makes sense here.
I also think that your post before this one actually demonstrates a few of the issues I’ve mentioned. Basically all reasons you gave as to why he would work out for you, are players not yet at your club right now. That’s so many „ifs“ that I would take that as a reason to stay clear for now.
And Amorim might have worked out eventually, if all those „ifs“ had actualised for him. It just never happened. I think the best thing would be a coach who can work with the players already there and is ambitious enough, to try and turn them into a different, better team step by step. I think yet another coach in need of hundreds of millions of immediate investment into the squad, is just not the way to go.
We're going to have to spend 250m-300m regardless of who comes in anyway. I have to disagree with you. We need two midfielders, likely a Thiago type instead of Zirkzee, and a fullback (likely on the right). Minimal. That's, if we get the quality we need, minimally 250m in today's market. Maybe slightly less with some sold and off the books.
It doesn't matter who comes in, that is something, above, which has to be done. Now, give that to Carlo and I see a very good future. We just don't agree. I think the man's the answer for a few years before he gives it over and likely retires and leaves what would be one of the best and youngest squads in the league behind.
To your, "work with the players you already have" - Ferguson, prime Mouringo, and Pep, all together, couldn't get a title challenge from the squad we have. Too many holes and inconsistencies all across the pitch and literally zero squad depth. It's just not the right way to think even as it makes a kind of common sense. Sure, be adaptive until you can solve, through transfers, the problems (which Amorim could not do), but don't pretend we don't need an influx of quality to be a serious side again that such is the case regardless of who is the permanent manager.
Sir JimHands up who still wants Glasner?
Didn't Ancelotti refuse to play Inzaghi in a CL game when Berlusconi basically demanded that he starts? Don't really think Ancelotti is one that gives in to pressure.
Any updates on who the caretaker will be until summer ?
Just consider the example that you gave. It's an extreme one that doesn't apply to our current situation but most importantly Ancelotti stated and found success in that type of environment. If there is a head coach that can and will handle this type of things gracelfully, it is Ancellotti and he won't bad mouth anyone.
Yeah, fair. He should be perfect for us in that case, and I'd be ecstatic if we got him. I suspect the board will choose some other hipster manager, though.
This is where I'm at right now with those three. McKenna is one for the future depending on how he does the next time he's managing in the PL. Nagelsmann and Howe under consideration also.
I wouldn't know, from what I understand he is often at the top of everyone's list the issue is one of timing. For once his availability could match with our needs.
But he could be in pre-retirement mode, he is 66 years old.
I think Glasner just ruled himself out.
Definitely would rule out Glasner. Tuchel / Ancelotti should be our priority.
Can’t help but feel in 14 months the exact same thing will be happening
Manager talking shit about the board and gets sacked
Biggest mystery to me is Ancelotti not managing us but has managed Everton
Largely why I voted for Ancelotti.
I think there was a general consensus on here in recent years that we need to do something different from going with experienced managers, presumably because LVG and Jose weren't as successful as we had hoped. However for me they were still our best managers after Fergie, especially Jose, however they were past their best at that point, and Jose was antagonistic and destructive by the end which has soured peoples memories of his time here.
But I think our best course of action is to go with an experienced manager who we know can handle the the biggest clubs. Ancelotti is it, and he comes without the toxic baggage of Jose.
I just don't fancy the idea of taking a punt on another Ten Hag or Amorim type of coach and seeing if they have what it takes to make the step up.
Anyone other than a big elite manager name is an insult to this club, way too long we accepted finished managers, young non proven ones or nostalgia merchants. This club have been neglected and disrespected by it's owners. I do not want to see a Glasner or an Iraola or a fecking Maresca.
Go get Enrique or Ancelotti or to a lesser extent Tuchel.
Go get Enrique or Ancelotti or to a lesser extent Tuchel.
Can we not just put Neville in charge until the summer?
I mean we'll basically be shite whoever we pick. The only difference is if it's Gary Neville we won't need to listen to Gary Neville's opinions on it every week.
Plus by the times he's sacked Sky might have permanently replaced him with something less annoying. Like a continuous loud screeching noise for example.
I mean if we can't improve ourselves may as well try to make the rest of the world a better place
I mean we'll basically be shite whoever we pick. The only difference is if it's Gary Neville we won't need to listen to Gary Neville's opinions on it every week.
Plus by the times he's sacked Sky might have permanently replaced him with something less annoying. Like a continuous loud screeching noise for example.
I mean if we can't improve ourselves may as well try to make the rest of the world a better place
Glasner really is showing he's got what it takes to be a Utd manager in 2026.
If he keeps up his current run of form we might not have to wait until summer to hire him!
It’s one thing making them world beaters in Serie A compared to the prem.
McKenna. I don't think the big names on that list can make it in PL no matter how well they do elsewhere.
He won the PL with Victor Moses at WB
I think Glasner just ruled himself out.
This was always going to happen around this point of the season given the amount of fixtures Palace have as they just don't have the squad to compete on 4 fronts.
This was always going to happen around this point of the season given the amount of fixtures Palace have as they just don't have the squad to compete on 4 fronts.
And the league was weak?
I completely get you. When it comes to Enrique, I’m all for him. The two things for me concerning De Zerbi in relation to the points you bring up are:
1. I think De Zerbi is different to EtH and Amorim in that he’s proven he can get multiple teams playing his way consistently for around a decade now. All of his teams have played his style regardless of the quality available to him. The way his teams set out to play has remained consistent; It’s just, the better players he’s had, the more effective his style. It’s not like EtH who only played the Ajax style because he had to there, and reverted to his chaotic style elsewhere, or Amorim who was still relatively unproven. If he joins, even if he’s not a success in terms of trophies, I think he’ll elevate our play in general.
2. This is just me but I think, long term, it'd be more beneficial for us to get in someone who will completely revitalise our style of play so that we give future managers the best platform to succeed from. Enrique seems like he could do this but is unlikely to join. The next best option, to me, is De Zerbi. You, rightly, say players will want to play under the managers you mention, but I think players would want to play under him here, too, because his proactive approach is a style I think most players would love to play.
I could be wrong so feel free to correct me but I think the majority of our better chances come from transitions. When we're facing a deep defence, we still struggle to break teams down because we lack the technical players to play in tight and congested spaces. Only Amad really thrives in that area.
Was it? He beat Klopp and Pep, didn't he?
Fair point. It would be good to have a proven winner here and one that’s adaptable
So hire the guy who got relegated from the PL?
Another bonus is it gets him off the commentary!
Did you really just suggest Ange Postecoglou as an interim manager for us!?!?!?
Where’s the white text?
Maybe Frank will be available soon!
Great idea
Enrique or Ancelotti. No other option is an upgrade to take us back to the top of the league. Som others from the list are decent or risky and some are good only if we are looking after the final blow (SG). Ole or Carrick as caretaker for some positive vibes. It cant be worse.
Ancelotti is the guy you bring in to finesse an already very good and highly talented team. His man management skills are beyond reproach and he gets all the mega egos aligned and focussed together for the betterment of the team. He comes from the "keep it simple", arm around the shoulder, 'kindly uncle' school of management. He's not really a coach or tactically particularly savvy. He's not the guy you get for a rebuild or to get you punching above your weight to compete with more talented squads.
He's ideal for Real Madrid, would probably do very well with City or Liverpool's current squads, but at United, I think he'd struggle. He's just not not the best fit for us right now.
He's ideal for Real Madrid, would probably do very well with City or Liverpool's current squads, but at United, I think he'd struggle. He's just not not the best fit for us right now.
As interim. Why the heck not? Are you really suggesting Carrick or Ole are better managers purely by virtue that they are ex United players?
It's that attitude that is rotting out clubs progress.
Ange plays suicidal football which is not suited to get a lot of points in this league. His basket ball approach also risks big injuries to key players so yes he'd be an atrocious pick.
Crazy talk
yep, lets get Ange!That’s a straw man. I never made any claims based on them being ex Utd managers.
Anyway, have you been in a coma for the past two years?
Ange took Spurs to their worst ever PL finish (which was somehow even worse than our worst ever PL finish that same season under Amorim), and then he went to Forest where they continued sinking like a stone around the relegation spots after getting into Europe the previous season. Sacked after 39 days. And he’s someone we should bring here!?!?? Absolute madness.
I do not want Ole back, but I’d take him in a fecking heartbeat over Ange Postecoglu.