Ten Hag and Overmars and things will quickly change.
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Stadium renovation. The bloody leeches.
We signed Varane Sancho and Ronaldo this summer and yet we look even worse and less balanced than last year.
What a bizarre statement. Do you think Leicester would've wanted someone else that season?
Pellegrini also did a good job, so did Mancini, so has Pep done. None of them have won the CL though, so maybe Pep isn't good enough
I didn't say this season or didn't mention Feed or Mctominay. If he manages to win with them as a starting CM pair the feat would be even better...
So the logic is "he's good enough because hypothetically he can win"?
That could be said about not just every manager but anyone basically.
How about this for a hypothetical conundrum, pick one…
A. Ole remains in charge for 5 more years and cannot be sacked before then.
B. Mourinho returns for 4 years and cannot be sacked until the 4 seasons are up.
C. LvG returns for 3 seasons and can’t be sacked before the 3 seasons are done.
D. Moyes returns for 2 seasons and cannot be sacked until the contract is up.
Which do you pick, and why?
A. Ole remains in charge for 5 more years and cannot be sacked before then.
B. Mourinho returns for 4 years and cannot be sacked until the 4 seasons are up.
C. LvG returns for 3 seasons and can’t be sacked before the 3 seasons are done.
D. Moyes returns for 2 seasons and cannot be sacked until the contract is up.
Which do you pick, and why?
Your doing too much. It’s quite simple, great managers manage the best teams and win a load of trophies.
We don’t have a great manager and no surprise we don’t have many trophies. There’s nothing else to try and understand or to feel bizarre about.
Pep - Trophies
Klopp - Trophies
Mancini - Trophies
Mourinho - Trophies
Zidane - Trophies
Ole - Nothing.
Moyes. He leaves quicker.
This, and with Ronaldo, crossing the ball 80+ times may actually work.
Yep.
Add Conte as well. Ole is a nice guy and a legend though.
Don't forget the United DNA!
I think what he mean was if Ole win he's good enough.
I still remember the caf laughing out loud at Klopp before he won the PL and CL.
Van Gaal easily. The best coach of the lot and the transfers are already done for him. He’d be much better with this set of players. His issue was he’d always worked somewhere where transfers had been done by a Director, he’d been out of the club game for years. I think he’d be fine with your squad now.
Maybe another choice Zidane is available get him in he will get the players playing expansive football plus he will rotate the players. He could remain in charge for 3 years.
Well. Yes. Pending on CL playoffs, and if the over all play is good and heading in the right direction.
But, 75 points will give us at least top four.
My point is more like this. The rebuild of the squad will be «finished» next summer. We are not there yet. We are close, but our midfield is not good enough and we have som youngsters that need this year to make the last step. Harry and Varane also needs this season to click, and we need a proper backup for Wan Bissaka.
So yes. The focus is still development and getting it all together. We are good enough to be up there when all is fit, but with a few injurys on key players we are not all that.
Based on how the previous seasons developed, the injuries we have right now and how that effects the team, the time it takes for new players to settel in and quality we now have. Two transfer windows and we will have our midfield in order as well + a few of the «kids» will have reached next level —> Rashford, Sancho and Greenwood (and maybe maybe Elenga).
This thread will be busy come 16:50 today
By the logic on here, Conte would have won CL three times in a row back in 99 and Ferguson was scraping for that win — so it doesn't really count.
He sucked all joy out of watching United for a lot of fans. Three seasons under LvG sounds like hell. He would scream at Bruno if he ever dared to play a forward pass or a run into the box like he did with Herrera at Goodison park once.
I’m all ears. Explain!!
in fact until May when it will be statistically impossible to reach top4 and win a single competition like the last 4 years. Even then I wouldn't be so sure for Fletcher and co to have balls and dismiss one of their friends sadly because of some kind of faith in rebuild.
Ole has done well to get back with United way mentality and brought the right players with right character but if he fails to win anything it will be absolutely the right time to replace him so we don't waste this fantastic team full of talent and already ready made world class or close to world class players. When we replace him I think after then the decisions and changes won't be as problematic as now when we are stacked with former players in key positions with good heart but not good enough abilities to take us anywhere.
I really hope Fletcher is as ruthless as on the pitch and can make the right decision rather sooner than later regardless of who he knows from the past..
Won't it take another year for the midfield players to settle in just like all our previous signings then. That puts it two years into the future. Then Ronaldo is two years older, Cavani is gone, De Gea is probably too old so we need a GK. People will see the AWB hasn't got enough offensively and they'll say Ole needs a new RB to challenge. Not to mention Matic will be gone so we'll probably need yet another midfielder.
Point is, every squad in the world always needs something. Every other squad in the world has new players that need to settle. Every other squad in the world has to work with what they have and are expected to challenge despite not having the perfect squad (except us I guess). Hell City don't even have a striker and they're expected to win the league. Why on earth do our fans have different expectations for our manager?
LVG. Possesion football with this attack and defence, plus a new 6 in the summer he takes the fecking league
D. We haven't been in a relegation dogfight for decades.
Let's talk managers who make sense for this team - none of this Conte business.
Who else is out there similar to Ten Hag - young, progressive, intelligent?
Regarding the international managers, is it realistic to expect a manager to do two monster jobs until the World Cup is finished? Thinking of Flick here, and Enrique. Speaking of whom, does Luis Enrique speak English?
Who are the best interim candidates? Rangnick is hardly coming if he's not getting a DoF type position afterwards (and may actually join Newcastle) but who is a realistic option here?
Who else is out there similar to Ten Hag - young, progressive, intelligent?
Regarding the international managers, is it realistic to expect a manager to do two monster jobs until the World Cup is finished? Thinking of Flick here, and Enrique. Speaking of whom, does Luis Enrique speak English?
Who are the best interim candidates? Rangnick is hardly coming if he's not getting a DoF type position afterwards (and may actually join Newcastle) but who is a realistic option here?
Why not just Ten Hag?
From a club manager perspective:
If we’re gambling on the long term project, it’s got to be Ten Haag.
Best chance at instant success, it’s Conte.
But the first one is my preference.
I'm curious to know about other options from those more clued up. Ten Hag is by all accounts a good coach and has his team play attractive football, does he have the character to bring that to United? I'm just interested in having a discussion here now that it is looking inevitable.
The way we recruit managers I can only see us appointing Conte or Zidane as it stands. Ole’s best hope of keeping job throughout season is that club probably have no idea what to do next.
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This is not an opinion, just read it a few times but some media articles suggest Ten Haag is quite ... strict?
Blanc.... available immediately... history with the club... has won stuff (albeit a while ago now)
Not that I want him... but wouldn't rule out the glazers thinking its a good idea
He is.
Also, don't know, why prising him out of Ajax would be an easy thing to do, mid-season. F wiw, I don't think our board are sacking Ole any time soon.
LVG, easily. Even with Smalling and Blind in defence, and a midfield that is not much better than what we have now, we controlled games, did well against the big teams, and actually played like a big team ourselves trying to take initiative and battle for possession and control.
He lacked players like Bruno, Sancho, and Pogba who can actually create chances so we ended up low scoring and lacking in cutting edge. We were counting on an aging Rooney and aging RVP, past it Falcao, and Di Maria who was really not interested all that much past the initial period. Mata and Martial took more of the creative burden but one is not very consistent and Mata’s best is behind him.
LVG is the best head coach we’ve had post-SAF, we just needed to have the right structure around him when it comes to transfers. We now do have that.
I think it'd be hard too, doing well Ajax?
Wonder how he'd get on with some of the personalities we have.
Haven’t read anything about it to be honest. But I think when it comes to realistic targets and compatibility with our current team, he seems the best fit.
If we are willing to pay 1) the compensation fee to Ajax, 2) pay his wages, and 3) give him full reins to choose his coaching staff (and thus remove the 2 clueless idiots, Carrick and McKenna), then yes. Grabbing a manager from a club in the middle of a season doesn't happen often, but it is not impossible.
In any case, Ole hs to fecking go. Its what matters the most now.
I don't even think we'd get Ten Hag.
I see him waiting to succeed Pep or going to Barcelona.
Zidane, France-bound for me.
I don't think Conte is the guy for us.
Jesus. We're goosed
I see him waiting to succeed Pep or going to Barcelona.
Zidane, France-bound for me.
I don't think Conte is the guy for us.
Jesus. We're goosed
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