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Make it 200m. And 750k per weekWas wondering what the forum thinks is a reasonable price to buy neymar even if hypothetical..
150 mil cane to my mind..
Make it 200m. And 750k per weekWas wondering what the forum thinks is a reasonable price to buy neymar even if hypothetical..
150 mil cane to my mind..
I think a player plus cash deal makes the most sense. The total value of these offers would be around the 160-180m mark which is probably fair given his age and injury history.Was wondering what the forum thinks is a reasonable price to buy neymar even if hypothetical..
150 mil cane to my mind..
If they can swap/offload Coutinho and Dembele without adding (a lot of) cash it is a good deal. Cashflow management would be rather interesting.Imagine Barca being stupid enough to give back all that money they got from PSG in the first place? This transfer fecked the whole market and will end up just being a glorified loan.
What we're really seeing is the power that both Messi and Ronaldo carry with both of their clubs clearly going beyond their normal limits trying to bring them closer to another champions league win before their time runs out.Imagine Barca being stupid enough to give back all that money they got from PSG in the first place? This transfer fecked the whole market and will end up just being a glorified loan.
I have never said he isn’t a good footballer, I just can’t stand him is a person, he is everything that is wrong with the game. I’m pretty sure I am not the only one with this view of him.But he doesn't play for himself, he forms great on-field (and it seems off-field too) partnerships with teammates that benefit the team. Linked amazingly well with Messi and Suarez and the same with Mbappe.
Ronaldo plays more for himself than Neymar, you wouldn't take him at the top of his powers either? As above poster said, i think you are extremely clouded because you have a dislike of the guy.
You certainly are not the only one.I have never said he isn’t a good footballer, I just can’t stand him is a person, he is everything that is wrong with the game. I’m pretty sure I am not the only one with this view of him.
A bad move? Serves him fecking right - it was all about money, for him in terms of salary, and don't forget his old man who pocketed zillions as his agent.Great talent. Feel that Mbappé took the shine off him when they signed him shortly after. Should never have went to PSG. There is no challenge in the French league for someone of his quality, and he might has well stayed at Barcelona. I have no real opinion of him as a person. If United were interested at some point I'd say that's natural. He's coming up to 27/28 so you would hope he's maturing but maybe not. It was just a bad move by him to go PSG and hopefully he's realized that. All it takes is the right club. We've seen similar shite from Pogba, but from his POV I can understand it because of the owners and what we've been doing on the pitch. He has no one but himself to blame and he must know that.
Seconded.I have never said he isn’t a good footballer, I just can’t stand him is a person, he is everything that is wrong with the game. I’m pretty sure I am not the only one with this view of him.
And you're entitled to your opinion but don't then deny you are taking the moral highground because you don't not want the player you don't want what you deem to be the person.I have never said he isn’t a good footballer, I just can’t stand him is a person, he is everything that is wrong with the game. I’m pretty sure I am not the only one with this view of him.
Bollocks sorry. I don't want the player or the person myself. I can't get behind someone who produces his antics on the pitch.And you're entitled to your opinion but don't then deny you are taking the moral highground because you don't not want the player you don't want what you deem to be the person.
Unless you are saying you don't want him because he is not a good enough footballer then you are taking the moral highground, which is perfectly fine.Bollocks sorry. I don't want the player or the person myself. I can't get behind someone who produces his antics on the pitch.
No you cannot compare Neymar to Maradona or George Best. I cannot stand watching him. I would love to have seen Maradona in a United shirt. Different things.Unless you are saying you don't want him because he is not a good enough footballer then you are taking the moral highground, which is perfectly fine.
Everyone has differing levels of where they'd draw the line. I'm not turning down a top 5 player in the world because of on-pitch (or off pitch non legal matters) antics.
You wouldn't have wanted Maradona playing for your team either then? And if you were around at the time you'd have been disgusted at George Best playing for United? Come on...
I just skimmed your conversation, but even I understand that you’re way off the mark. None of those players had cheating ingrained in their playig style. To include Best in this conversation is nothing short of criminal.Unless you are saying you don't want him because he is not a good enough footballer then you are taking the moral highground, which is perfectly fine.
Everyone has differing levels of where they'd draw the line. I'm not turning down a top 5 player in the world because of on-pitch (or off pitch non legal matters) antics.
You wouldn't have wanted Maradona playing for your team either then? And if you were around at the time you'd have been disgusted at George Best playing for United? Come on...
Sorry but now you're deluding yourself. If media and more aptly social media back in the day were equal to what it is today you would have had a worse perception of Maradona and Best than you do Neymar.No you cannot compare Neymar to Maradona or George Best. I cannot stand watching him. I would love to have seen Maradona in a United shirt. Different things.
I also think Maradona and Neymar were far far better footballers as well. Neymar is skilled but I cannot take to him at all.
Sorry no you are wrong. I am old enough to remember watching Maradona extensively. He was a knob but a million times more mesmerizing than Neymar. Neymar doesn't have the walk to talk the talk in comparison.Sorry but now you're deluding yourself. If media and more aptly social media back in the day were equal to what it is today you would have had a worse perception of Maradona and Best than you do Neymar.
Best is the purest footballer there has arguably ever been in terms of balance between talent, sportsmanship, love of the game and fairness. With him it's the off field stuff. Some say they wouldn't have Neymar because of off field stuff then they are either getting caught up in media overdrive of today or looking back (or ignoring totally) with rose tinted glasses some greats of the past.I just skimmed your conversation, but even I understand that you’re way off the mark. None of those players had cheating ingrained in their playig style. To include Best in this conversation is nothing short of criminal.
Actually, thinking about it, I might just report you for crimes against Manchester United’s history!
Neymar's off field stuff doesn't bother or interest me at all. You need to accept other people might not agree with you on a football forum.Best is the purest footballer there has arguably ever been in terms of balance between talent, sportsmanship, love of the game and fairness. With him it's the off field stuff. Some say they wouldn't have Neymar because of off field stuff then they are either getting caught up in media overdrive of today or looking back (or ignoring totally) with rose tinted glasses some greats of the past.
Obviously Maradona had both on and off field issues.
Make Maradona and Best 27 today and i'd have both in an instant, as i would Neymar.
I do accept but you're not making sense. so you don't want him because you deem him to be a "cheat" of a player? But you stated you would have loved to see Maradona in a United shirt? So you're fine with some cheats but not with others?Neymar's off field stuff doesn't bother or interest me at all. You need to accept other people might not agree with you on a football forum.
Bloody hell you are the one not making any sense. I don't like his style of play, I think he is vastly over rated. He doesn't produce enough to get away with his antics in the majority of games I have watched him "live".I do accept but you're not making sense. so you don't want him because you deem him to be a "cheat" of a player? But you stated you would have loved to see Maradona in a United shirt? So you're fine with some cheats but not with others?
No probably not. Because while you have a point - a lot of why people hate on Neymar is not necessarily down to his ego or eccentricities alone - but down to him acting like a whiny little bitch and something of a sleaze - in an era even where footballers have it so easy both on and off the pitch compared to what was the case back then.Sorry but now you're deluding yourself. If media and more aptly social media back in the day were equal to what it is today you would have had a worse perception of Maradona and Best than you do Neymar.
You're kidding, right? Best and Maradona would have been slaughtered, broken, if they lived the lives they did then in today's environment. All moot, of course. Their behaviour would have had to be modified for survival.No probably not. Because while you have a point - a lot of why people hate on Neymar is not necessarily down to his ego or eccentricities alone - but down to him acting like a whiny little bitch and something of a sleaze - in an era even where footballers have it so easy both on and off the pitch even compared to what was the case back then.
And you can say a lot of negatives about for instance Maradona too - but one thing you cannot call him is a whiny little bitch and a sleaze this despite the fact that his personal life was tragic and he also set some kind of world record in having his feet battered. I see your point - there's a double standard there for sure - but people can actually forgive a lot of negatives as long as the person responsible goes about in a dignified ("manly") fashion and also owns up to his or hers faults.
Not my point. They were slaughtered back then too - it did not end well for them and there were a lot of controversies surrounding both. By the time Maradona left the World Cup he was disgraced and very few - if any - jumped to his defense. But over time - the public opinion of them was more forgiving - they're still both treated as legends today and I doubt that will be the case with certain stars of this generation - Neymar included.You're kidding, right? Best and Maradona would have been slaughtered, broken, if they lived the lives they did then in today's environment. All moot, of course. Their behaviour would have had to be modified for survival.
Agree with this.Not my point. They were slaughtered back then too - it did not end well for them and there were a lot of controversies surrounding both. By the time Maradona left the World Cup he was disgraced and very few - if any - jumped to his defense. But over time - the public opinion of them was more forgiving - they're still both treated as legends today and I doubt that will be the case with certain stars of this generation - Neymar included.
For the reasons I mentioned - they may have had their less-than-flattering whims but these whims didn't transfer onto the pitch nor did it affect their loyalties - they were self-destructive not just pitiful - and at least they were more genuine by owning up to who they were not acting all pathetic.
This is a very good post. Also, I’d like to add that Best was very much a man of the people. Many have written and spoken about how he was too nice (in his personal life, a shy and careful guy by all accounts before alchohol took over) and thus was prone to being taken advantage of by ‘friends’. I’d like to see anyone say that about Neymar, excluding his sister of course!No probably not. Because while you have a point - a lot of why people hate on Neymar is not necessarily down to his ego or eccentricities alone - but down to him acting like a whiny little bitch and something of a sleaze - in an era even where footballers have it so easy both on and off the pitch even compared to what was the case back then.
And you can say a lot of negatives about for instance Maradona too - but one thing you cannot call him is a whiny little bitch and a sleaze this despite the fact that his personal life was tragic and he also set some kind of world record in having his feet battered. I see your point - there's a double standard there for sure - but people can actually forgive a lot of negatives as long as the person responsible goes about in a dignified ("manly") fashion and also owns up to his or hers faults. As long as they're not 100% plastic fantastic.
Also Maradona and Best were way better seen in comparison to their era than Neymar is in comparison to ours. Talents like that are massproduced these days - you can always get someone younger and less annoying with similar skills.
Didn't Maradona score a world cup goal with his hand? Sniffed cocaine, fought opponentsI just skimmed your conversation, but even I understand that you’re way off the mark. None of those players had cheating ingrained in their playig style. To include Best in this conversation is nothing short of criminal.
Actually, thinking about it, I might just report you for crimes against Manchester United’s history!
Ingrained means it’s a natural part, an essential part even, of their game. So the rest is just hot air mate. None of those would start fights with their team mates over a penalty, for instance.Didn't Maradona score a world cup goal with his hand? Sniffed cocaine, fought opponents
I will take Neymar anyway in my club, We had Robben and Ribery for about a decade who had poor attitudes, sex scandals even with minors everytime Ribery was on the field, it was like he could explode anytime while Robben was a serial diver. Suarez chews other players, half of Barcelona starting lineup are divers and cheats, Ronaldo when he first got to Man Utd was a notorious diver, Ronaldinho was a party animal
Football has dealt with players who were jackasses off the field. And we are acting like football is a game for saints and righteous people. Neymar is not the worst I have seen, not even close to it
As long as he gets on the field and delivers
Can anyone think of Ribery Busquets Suarez, Alba or Robben and not think diving and winding up opponents isn't a part of their game?Ingrained means it’s a natural part, an essential part even, of their game. So the rest is just hot air mate. None of those would start fights with their team mates over a penalty, for instance.
I maintain my position, comparing Best and Maradona to Neymar is a travesty, and it hurts my brain. You can keep your disgusting child molester. The day those things stop mattering to me, is the day I stop watching football.
I wont reject a younger Robben or Ribery at my club because of these issues and both at their best are not even as talented as NeymarFranck Ribery and former Chelsea winger Arjen Robben had to be dragged apart by shocked team-mates after a furious dressing room bust-up midway through Bayern Munich’s Champions League semi-final against Real Madrid.
A row that started on the pitch shortly before half-time escalated after the players reached the dressing room, as the pair traded insults and angrily squared up to each other.
According to sources in Munich, Ribery aimed a punch at Robben and caught him under the eye, before team-mates stepped in and pulled them apart.
The flashpoint is believed to have stemmed from a heated argument over who should take a free-kick towards the end of the first half
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...rjen-Robben-pulled-apart-half-time-scrap.html