People underrate Ronaldo now as though he was a slogger who got where he is by hard work alone. He was an insane talent in his youth and showed more across his entire career than Neymar ever did. Talent is more than just flicks and tricks, otherwise some futsal player would probably be considered the best ever.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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They are not even comparable
Reminds me of Madrid paying £80 million to us for Ronaldo and then selling him to Juve for £100m.
Aren’t they only getting €90m for him? I thought they paid around €225m?
In £ terms they signed him for £198m and they’re getting £86.4m, so around 44% of their original outlay. I’m not sure what the € figures are.
Well said
Gone to a league where he can do all his flicks and party tricks for youtube comps
That £198mil would be spread over his deal, so 5 year contract at £198mil fee would mean the transfer fee reduces on PSGs books by approx £39 million per year.
The point is PSG will be getting ~50% of their original outlay.
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After watching that I take it all back. Is it too late to hijack this move to Saudi?
He is good enough to do flick and tricks in any league.
There was a discussion this week in Brazil's football scene about who was better, prime Ronaldinho or prime Neymar.
I really like Neymar, but that's not really a debate of you saw both play.
I still think we should try him. He's class and he'll be in a well run team with a disciplinarian in charge. I think he would flourish under EtH in any position of the front three, he's that talented.
World class talent was far more spread out amongst multiple clubs up until City and PSG arrived. Was posted in that Ronaldo/R9 thread about the list of greats in Serie A that won far less due to how spread out talent was in the 90s and early 2000s. By the time he went to Real in the Galactico era he was nowhere near the player he was for PSV, Barca, and early Inter days. Yet, had the Galactico era not forsaken balance in the pursuit of superstars they may have won more in those years.
He may very well have been the Mbappe lured to a "farmer's league" in differing eras, or may have been Benzema with Real or Haaland with City. His club career would have played much different in the era of oil clubs and super squads.
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I would agree with this.
Neymar's talent was outrageously high.
CR7 was extremely talented as well, but I think you can name 10 players at least with more innate talent than him all-time.
His ability to extract/maximize his talent(CR7's) might be the best ever.
No. If you saw early Ronaldo you know he had every single trick and flick in the book. He chose to change his game to win, he honed himself to a fine point. Neymar has emerged as a different kind of player at PSG, more of a playmaker, in many regards. But that’s partly because he didn’t keep the physicality to constantly, endlessly do the business at the sharp end of the field. He went places on the pitch where flicks were easier.
Yep. The underrating of Ronaldo's dribbling and technique is criminal. Keep in mind that he was mostly doing it at pace, which makes it even harder than strolling about and sauntering with some samba moves.
I watched early Ronaldo.
It's not about doing flicks or tricks. I believe Neymar simply has more natural talent.
I can't see how people think Ronaldinho was better than Neymar, let alone "on a different planet". The only thing the former was better at was first touch(ball control and one touch pass). Neymar is a much more productive playmaker and a much better goalscorer. His combination of progression dribbling + passing skills + vision + off ball movement is matched only by Messi in the last 30 years. The number of great passes and dribbling runs that he produced in 17/18 was above anything Ronaldinho has ever produced.
Also, people overrate Ronaldo's off ball movement. His freakish impulsion and time reactions inside the box were much more influential in his goalscoring than smart runs and movement. I don't think his movement was better than Messi's or even Neymar's.
Talk that Neymar still hopes he could rejoin Barca after his two years in Saudi Arabia.
some of these numbers are ridiculous. How much more money could neymar really need? Wouldve thought hed be filthy rich already and thered undoubtedly be plenty of endorsements after his playing days he couldve gone for. Gonna waste 2 years of his not that many years left to go be forgotten in saudi arabia i guess.
There can never be enough money. See Ronaldo. He is already rich and makes a lot in Saudi, yet charges a lot of money for an Instagram post for example.
Guess Ronaldo ain't the biggest fish in the Gulf anymore.
Nah, that would be Jordan Henderson.
Haha. Rainbow Trout
To a team like United this guy is worth the 2m pounds a week or whatever he wanted.
We cant create, a player like him would revolutionise us. His positives would far outweigh his negatives.
cant believe some of you didnt want him.
We cant create, a player like him would revolutionise us. His positives would far outweigh his negatives.
cant believe some of you didnt want him.
People come out with the weirdest "I told you so" bullshit after we lose a game.
Weird to you. If you find my post in this thread I said he is worth it us in the summer. Even for 30 games a season.People come out with the weirdest "I told you so" bullshit after we lose a game.
0 goal in Saudi after 4 games. People laugh at Ronaldo scoring for fun at the desert, but Neymar is a complete disaster there.
Yeah lets ignore the fact has 3 assists and my point was about his creativity not scoring but carry on…
People make fun of Ronaldo scoring 16 goals 6 assists there this season. Neymar is on 0 goal 3 assists, so fair play to him.
Ronaldo is a striker Neymars a winger/AM. 3 assists in 4 games is more than okay.
Considering he's playing more Counter-Strike than football, I'm sure he has many assists in CS2
Sancho / Neymar e-game when ?Considering he's playing more Counter-Strike than football, I'm sure he has many assists in CS2
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