This would be a backwards signing. Can’t see it happening under ETH. He wants hungry players who’ll fit his system. We’ve moved away from superstar signings.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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To be fair, I wouldn't be opposed to this, at all.
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To be fair, I wouldn't be opposed to this, at all.
Ten Haag asked about the possible Neymar transfer in press conference. He replied “When we have news, we will tell you”.
Sounds like there’s something in it. I have a bad feeling about this if it does go ahead.
Sounds like there’s something in it. I have a bad feeling about this if it does go ahead.
In the several years Rashford has been at Utd, he has been incredibly underwhelming when he’s played on the right. I would absolutely oppose this.
Isn't that his answer to any transfer-related question? If it's about a United player, one of: 'he's doing great/improving, we want him here, he has a good personality/attitude, etc.' If it's about possible targets, more like: 'I don't comment on other teams/players, we'll let you know, or some other variant of basically piss off'.
Imagine Neymar and Antony on either wing. I don’t think my TV would survive.
I cant think of a player that would be more opposite of what I imagine an ETH signing
They just had Vickery on Talksport and he thinks that Casa will be telling Erik something along the lines of,look boss he isn't this show pony that media make him out to be. I have seen with Brazil he is very prepared to put a shift in.
Why though? 99th percentile for progressive passes and right up there in a bunch of other categories as well as over 1 g/a game on average even this season. Harder worker than the likes of Rashford and Sancho.
Most managers and teammates have only good things to say about him. Don't see why Ten Hag would be any different. Injury record is the main concern but it all depends on if we get a loan with decently subsidised wages. Of course if it's going to cost us a million a week then maybe not but if it's a generous agreement then it makes a lot of sense.
Yeah loan with option to buy would be the best idea,however like you say wages will be huge
Yea the public perception of some superstars are almost entirely driven by media narratives instead of anything people really know about them personally or their conduct in football.
He's been the hardest working attacker at his clubs since Barcelona in terms of defensive workrate and work off the ball to create space and chances for himself and his teammates.
He's had injury trouble but that also has a bit to do with how often players were allowed to bludgeon him like they're playing rugby in France. When he's available he's still in the top percentile of most productive forwards in the world.
We could do much worse in a side that struggles often with creativity especially if a loan is a possibility.
Sure there would be a circus surrounding a megastar like him joining but we're also Manchester fecking United, it wouldn't be our first rodeo with a global superstar and the current manager has shown the requisite amount of guile and authority capable of managing such profiles like Fergie could.
Don't think Neymar at this stage of his career would be much of a locker room problem, he's shown to be a capable leader and team player for country and he'd be teammates with another leader for club and country that he has all the respect in the world for in Casemiro.
If we thought we got played through a lot before, wait until we roll this out!
Yeah Casa is the trump card with all this
What about if there was solid Midfield partnership
Neymar in for year on loan
Kane in for fee.
There's goals and assists straight away.
Kane in for fee.
There's goals and assists straight away.
Could get on board with that
Is it on a free / loan?
Haven't heard his name in awhile, thought he retired or something
something I thought too to be honest!Who knows, I just know I’ve seen enough of Neymar to say he’s only seeing his own half at every kick off
United fans watch the superstars at City lifting titles after titles, and with a good chance of a treble this season, but somehow still post as if being a superstar means you've inherently lost your hunger. Then turn around and say "X manager wants ABC players that'll fit his system", meanwhile the manager is very much open to/doesn't rule out the players they're saying the manager wouldn't want to sign.
Curious stuff
Was they really superstars though or did pep turn them into superstars? That’s the question you have to ask. We’ve signed big name players over the past and they’ve all flopped. Maybe it’s different with ETH and he may be able to get a tune out of certain players. However, do you really think Neymar will fit into ETH plans and style? He doesn’t suit me as a pressing kind of player.
That’s what we said about our Ronnie. We absolutely talked ourselves into it and convinced ourselves it was a good idea. Didn’t end so well….
how are Sancho, Rashford more fitting? why would you move away from superstars when the best teams have superstars?
Transfer doesn't have sense. His age, his awful injury history, the fact that we have Rashy there, wages, fee....no logic at all.
But feck me, i would take him for those 10 games per season . I miss having true magician in a team.
But feck me, i would take him for those 10 games per season
. I miss having true magician in a team.What those two have a common? Except nationality.
Is Haaland not a superstar? KDB has been a superstar for years.
United has signed all sorts of players over the years that have flopped. If the criteria to not sign players is "has United signed X type of player before and have they flopped?" then we won't be signing anyone ever again.
I mean, the manager hasn't ruled it out for a reason. For all the talk about "pressing", this is a team that often employs Jadon Sancho, Rashford or Garnacho as LW - none of them exactly renown for "pressing", the difference being Neymar has 35 G/A this season. 18 goals, 17 assists. Have people seen what Neymar does regularly and consistently with a ball at his feet?
The best teams make superstar.
I presume he's talking about them both being shit-houses who rile up opposition players and fans (and their own fans at times).
The only positive I feel about it is the fact he is one of the few players in the world who has the ability to unlock defences and take them out of shape. It’s something we lack against park the bus teams. We focus more on rotating the play rather than an individual having the ability to do something special.
Just going of your last paragraph… who els do we have other then rashford, sancho and garnacho for LW? I’d say rashford and garnacho press to a certain extent. As for Neymar having 18 goals and 17 assist. I think Rashford would easily get that in that league to be fair. I’m not saying this would be a bad signing I’m just saying I don’t think it would work in my opinion and most of the people who are all for it will be the first to moan about him when he’s always injured/diving, has bad form etc.
It has.
Same guy that signed Casemiro to be fair.
Very interesting quotes from Ten Hag himself it has to be said, his completely noncommittal "when we have news, we tell you" is amazing, it'll drive the muppets into OVERDRIVE because he's not the sort of guy that would even entertain that question if there really was nothing to it, but this might just be a sort of "so you're saying there's a chance?" sort of thing to me
This is a lot more positive after Odgen saying we have no interest. The move is on
Jassim’s first gift hopefully.
You'd hope ETH would already know that because anyone who has watched Neymar does know that's what you get from him.
Ronaldo was very obviously at the end of his career and a camped in the box and wait for service kind of player when we signed him. Neymar, before his injury and the WC, was a top 3 player in the world just this past season. We're a team that struggles to score goals and this is a guy who creates them with ease and also scores a fair bit.
This is happening, isn't it
Nah, lets just spend 60 mil on Mason Mount
Certainly looks like it
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