It’s hard to look past LT, although I obvs didn’t follow NFL back then. So going based on articles and vids. Donald is obviously GOAT territory though. He’s also changed what teams look for in some ways at the interior DL position.
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It's very difficult to pick greatest at positions when there are varying levels of eras in NFL history, and stat counts like sacks, tackles, etc. were not officially tracked. You'd have guys like Deacon Jones, Joe Greene, Merlin Olson, Donald, White, etc. in contention for best DL with two awards - DE and DT/NT. Then guys like Butkus, Ham, Singletary, LT, Seau, Lambert, Lewis, etc., at LB with two awards - ILB and OLB. When it comes to the secondary it's probably hard for today's fans to pick the best CBs and FS/SS. For me, there is no safety in Ronnie Lott's class, all others are a tier below, and he was all-pro at CB before moving to safety. Pre-90s CBs like Hayes, Renfro, Blount, Willie Brown, Lane, so forth were studs.
Almost impossible to say given the subjective criteria. There have been a handful of players who at various times in their careers were so dominant that they literally changed the way offenses prepared to face opponents.
LT, Deion, Ray Lewis, Reggie White, Bruce Smith, Ed Reed immediately spring to mind. Donald would probably be in the echelon just below White and Smith.
If you forced me to pick one player, I would say LT was the best of the lot. He played with a touch of insanity that struck fear in the hearts of opponents.
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From whom I’ve seen, gotta say LT.
No mention of Paul Krause?
Had no idea the Broncos Jaguars game was already on sale. Got my tickets tonight - quite high up but side on inbetween the 30-20 yard line so should have a decent view of everything. Looked on a few websites searching for photos from my block and it looks like a great view.
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From those I’ve seen it’s Donald and there’s no contest there. Nobody comes close.
Watt 2012-2015 certainly does for me.
He comes closest to Donald. It’s still not a contest for me.
It feels like LT is the right answer. And though I wasn’t able to watch his career, there’s someone new also from the NFC East whose description sounds a lot like his…
Even if Parsons doesn’t reach those heights he seems like a potential spiritual successor.
Even if Parsons doesn’t reach those heights he seems like a potential spiritual successor.
Is it too soon to say Maxx Crosby?
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Deion Sanders and LT the best for me. Dick Butkus has the GOAT name which surely counts for something
Deion Sanders and LT the best for me. Dick Butkus has the GOAT name which surely counts for something
Also Reggie White
I forgot Deion - good one
Admittedly didn't read beyond the tweet, but Murray has said in the past that he doesn't watch as much film as others because he thinks he is blessed and he sees things others do not.
It is very interesting because he is playing in and around the same time as a half dozen or so of the GOAT QBs, most of whom are known as meticulous watchers of game film (Brady and Manning are legends in that regard). I mean, even Phillip Rivers used to be driven in a limo/vehicle that had a number of tv screens so that he could watch game film while on his way to and from practice. The best quarterbacks of the last 20 years or so have all pointed to watching a crazy amount of game film as the reason for their success. Yet Kyler doesn't think it is necessary. It is an odd stance to take and it is a big red flag all around for sure
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I'm surprised more contracts don't include this. It's an absolute prerequisite of being a good football player, to watch film.
Remember Jamarcus Russell?
Comes off as somewhat proving Murray is an immature, selfish, entitled individual. He's gotta put the team above himself.
Was coming into this thread to post about this.
It’s pretty damning in my mind for Murray.
It’s pretty damning in my mind for Murray.
I’m not surprised at all. In my mind watching film and preparation for your next game should be a prerequisite for any big contract because without it it’ll eventually catch up to you and your chances of winning drastically reduce. In other words, I’m not sure how many teams would offer such a contract to someone who themselves doesn’t put that time in anyway.
Queue for the tickets today meant to open at 9.30. I log on at 9 and there's 100k folk in front of me.
Total bollocks. Queue didn't reset either. I hate capitalism and greed.
Total bollocks. Queue didn't reset either. I hate capitalism and greed.
Honestly mate. Literally the same here. I was ready and logged around 9:25am only to find over 100k people ahead of me. My mate was in there about 20 minutes before me and he has a similar number ahead of him.
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It’s inching closer guys. Last month without football for the rest of 2022 kicks off next week. So fecking buzzing for Week 1 already.
It’s so fecking hard to get a ticket in the queue
Which games are you guys trying for?
I know I’ve overpaid using viagogo but I’m very happy to have sorted tickets for the Broncos game, and seats are brilliant; roughly on the 20 yard line and quite close to the field.
I know I’ve overpaid using viagogo but I’m very happy to have sorted tickets for the Broncos game, and seats are brilliant; roughly on the 20 yard line and quite close to the field.
It's game over for me - they opened the system early so people who followed their instructions got fecked over. Not funding sites like Stubhub.
I might have resort to that if I'm being honest. I'm in the queue for the Saints-Viking game. I doubt I'll get anything. I absolutely detest the way they do this every year.
Yeah I will just cough up some more money. Tbh loads of tickets come up around game day as well on Ticketmaster etc
You are all part of the problem 
You're not wrong, but hey man the Saints don't visit London every year, so needs must innitYou are all part of the problem
Brutal queuing system but don't worry, resellers certainly got their feed.
Stubhub has plenty of tickets at resale.
Stubhub has plenty of tickets at resale.
What’s the typical markup on sites like Stubhub v. getting a ticket in the queue?
3-5x
I've been in the queue since 9am and still have 90k people in front of me apparently.
How, if you were in the queue at 9am? I joined the queue around 9:20am and I'm down to about 7k in front of me.
After 5 hours of queuing ffs
Yeah just had the same, brutal day.After 5 hours of queuing ffs
Hard to deny but Denver don’t visit often so didn’t want to miss out.You are all part of the problem
Good god. Blessed?
But I guess he does have a point. Being a midget does mean he would have to use his third eye often.
Thankfully for London I’m ok as can renew from Previous years.
For Germany, I joined the queue 5 seconds after it opened. I was 92k in the queue. All gone by circa 30k left.
I thought hey, let’s check if I try join queue on my mobile too. I was 620k in the queue.
Literally feck off!
For Germany, I joined the queue 5 seconds after it opened. I was 92k in the queue. All gone by circa 30k left.
I thought hey, let’s check if I try join queue on my mobile too. I was 620k in the queue.
Literally feck off!
70% are just bots hoovering up all the tickets for reseller sites too. It's so annoying.
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