NFL 2023

[whitbyviking]

Brutal news for anybody!

Rodgers is just having a laugh now, getting a few mates to hang out with in New York for shits and giggles seemingly. Be hilarious if the Jets and Packers can't agree terms now.

Lions are sneaking into contention in the NFC, dark horses for the divisional maybe all things considered.

 

[P-Ro]

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[calodo2003]

Weird...

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[JPRouve]

Weird...

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Lamar Jackson says that it's not true that this man isn't trying to negotiate for him. Why would the NFLPA lie?

 

[calodo2003]

Lamar Jackson says that it's not true that this man isn't trying to negotiate for him. Why would the NFLPA lie?

Yep. Just seems amateurish.

 

[JPRouve]

Yep. Just seems amateurish.

I hope that he didn't think that he was going to outbamboozle the NFL and I hope that he didn't try to go behind the NFLPA's back.

 

[calodo2003]

No tush push rule change nor the third QB rule. Odd...

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[calodo2003]

Can't see this specifically getting traction or passing...

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[P-Ro]

Can't see this specifically getting traction or passing...

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That is a fecking stupid idea.

 

[OnlyTwoDaSilvas]

Long live the tush push.

Long live being reminded how much Jalen Hurts squats, every week for 18 weeks, minimum.

Can't see this specifically getting traction or passing...

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The attachment in the first tweet says 4th and 20, which is slightly better, but I'm not a fan. Haven't they pulled it from XFL? Seems kinda gimmicky.

Ball should always turnover after a score IMO. Onside kicks are an option I guess, but they rarely succeed anyway.

 

[P-Ro]

No tush push rule change nor the third QB rule. Odd...

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Eagles currently hard at work scheming a play to push Hurts an extra 14 yards on 4th.

 

[calodo2003]

Jesus, Bucs lead the league with $74 million dead cap money. I heard such earlier today & didn’t believe it, but it’s true.

That’s quite a number. Brady’s $35 million hit was the second largest ever.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/

 

[RoadTrip]

Jesus, Bucs lead the league with $74 million dead cap money. I heard such earlier today & didn’t believe it, but it’s true.

That’s quite a number. Brady’s $35 million hit was the second largest ever.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/

It seems weird to me that a player retiring creates dead cap space. Something should be done about that.

 

[Ayush_reddevil]

Eagles currently hard at work scheming a play to push Hurts an extra 14 yards on 4th.

Jeez you can’t stop hating even after winning the Super Bowl

 

[Rado_N]

It seems weird to me that a player retiring creates dead cap space. Something should be done about that.

It would just open it up to manipulation.

“Oh we’re signing this vet at the end of his career on a 5 year deal, honest, we’re just giving him 90% as a signing bonus to incentivise him”

A year later: “we had no idea he was going to retire, but we’ll average that hit out over the remaining years in his deal, thanks”

 

[calodo2003]

Just glad we still have Winfield Jr., Wirfs, & White under rookie deals, else this off-season would have been an absolute bloodbath.

 

[RoadTrip]

It would just open it up to manipulation.

“Oh we’re signing this vet at the end of his career on a 5 year deal, honest, we’re just giving him 90% as a signing bonus to incentivise him”

A year later: “we had no idea he was going to retire, but we’ll average that hit out over the remaining years in his deal, thanks”

In its pure current format sure, but a better solution should be available than what is presently. Not to mention this option is hugely risky for the team anyway. Should the guy not retire, they’d end up cutting and taking the cap hits accordingly. Or if they don’t cut, they’d be stuck paying his massive contract. So don’t think it’d be quite this easy to manipulate. Owners might find themselves Phil Jones’s you know

 

[Rado_N]

In its pure current format sure, but a better solution should be available than what is presently. Not to mention this option is hugely risky for the team anyway. Should the guy not retire, they’d end up cutting and taking the cap hits accordingly. Or if they don’t cut, they’d be stuck paying his massive contract. So don’t think it’d be quite this easy to manipulate. Owners might find themselves Phil Jones’s you know

there’s probably some kind of middle ground situation but it’s not like it’s a regular occurrence to be something that’s in dire need of solving.

Also it’s Brady and the Buccs so I’m fine with them suffering!

 

[JPRouve]

In its pure current format sure, but a better solution should be available than what is presently. Not to mention this option is hugely risky for the team anyway. Should the guy not retire, they’d end up cutting and taking the cap hits accordingly. Or if they don’t cut, they’d be stuck paying his massive contract. So don’t think it’d be quite this easy to manipulate. Owners might find themselves Phil Jones’s you know

The way it currently works with this type of situation is that they add voidable years. As an example Tom Brady signed a 5 years contract, only one of them was supposed to be with the team and him actually paid. If Brady didn't retire he'd be a free agent, the Bucs wouldn't pay him.

 

[calodo2003]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...-used-to-take-adderall-mushrooms-before-games

 

[Hephaestus]

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I'm so happy about this. Felt so wrong last season seeing him play for the Rams.

 

[JJ12]

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I'm so happy about this. Felt so wrong last season seeing him play for the Rams.

I’m happy with this having no affiliation to the Seahawks. Certain players just don’t seem right in another teams uniform.

 

[Raoul]

Good move by both parties. He's obviously still very good and will help them.

 

[Rado_N]

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[Organic Potatoes]

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If I had offer a guess, the Browns pulled the trigger on Elijah Moore when their final asking price on Jeudy was shot down. There was a lot of smoke there for Denver WRs between both the Pats and the Browns.

Baseless fog of war speculation of course, and they got a great price on EM regardless so who knows...

 

[RobinLFC]

If I had offer a guess, the Browns pulled the trigger on Elijah Moore when their final asking price on Jeudy was shot down. There was a lot of smoke there for Denver WRs between both the Pats and the Browns.

Baseless fog of war speculation of course, and they got a great price on EM regardless so who knows...

The Browns? His stats in his rookie season were great but a big downwards arrow last year - of course due to circumstances, but still.

I'd maybe rather get a guy like Downs or Flowers at the start of the second round with a few more added rookie contract years.

It wasn't a bad deal of course, but neither was it a great one I feel.

 

[Organic Potatoes]

The Browns? His stats in his rookie season were great but a big downwards arrow last year - of course due to circumstances, but still.

I'd maybe rather get a guy like Downs or Flowers at the start of the second round with a few more added rookie contract years.

It wasn't a bad deal of course, but neither was it a great one I feel.

If you use a modern draft value chart (not the famous old Jimmy Johnson one) it was around the equivalent of a 5th. That's nice for a guy that has flashed at both levels already.

And if all the noise is true, Flowers won't be there in the 2nd round. One of the biggest risers in the pre-draft process.

 

[JJ12]

Jeremy Fowler just reported that the Ravens aren’t fully committed to Lamar and he is also uncommitted and feels a change of scenery could benefit him. Both pretty obvious at this point. He also noted the Colts are a team to keep an eye on.

Yesterday a report came out that the Colts were looking to move down in the draft which seemed baffling at the time given their need at QB, but actually now makes sense if they are going to make a move for him.

 

[RobinLFC]

That'd be cool. Lamar, Lawrence and hopefully a succesful Young/Stroud in Houston would make the AFCS fun to watch again.

Now that the FA frenzy is slightly over, it's gonna be a long month wait until the draft

 

[calodo2003]

Will be surprised to see the NFLPA being kosher with this...

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[RobinLFC]

Should come with some additional conditions imo, e.g. flexing only allowed in December and no team should play more than 2 TNF games. If you can manage it around bye weeks, it might still only mean one short week for most teams.

Obviously I think most would agree that it feels wrong to let the league's biggest stars (or anyone, for that matter) play 4-5 games on a 4-day notice.

 

[JJ12]

So Lamar actually requested a trade March 2nd. Maybe it wasn’t collusion after all

 

[calodo2003]

So Lamar actually requested a trade March 2nd. Maybe it wasn’t collusion after all

That should have been plenty of time for his agent to line everyth... Wait.

 

[Evans999]

I can't see where Lemar goes, is it the colts? maybe tennessee? New England?

 

[RobinLFC]

So what's the Ravens' play here? Couldn't find a trade partner for more than 2 first rounders so tagged him and were now hoping that someone would offer him a suitable deal without the intention to match that offer?

All parties seem to be caught between a rock and a hard place now. Lamar wants to be traded so likely doesn't want to play under the tag. Ravens risk losing him for free next season if no one makes an offer to him right now...

 

[calodo2003]

I can't see where Lemar goes, is it the colts? maybe tennessee? New England?

There literally might not be a good fit anywhere. Too many moves have been made in FA.

 

[cesc's_mullet]

Safe to say he's played this so poorly. I think all parties have, without knowing for sure what the Ravens have offered.

 

[Organic Potatoes]

I don't know if it was a bonafide rumor or just logically connecting the dots (like a Tee Higgins trade) but I heard DC mentioned as a dark horse.

Something about Dan Snyder giving the middle finger on his way out by guaranteeing huge sums of money then passing that on to the next owner (also don't know how that escrow money would work so there's a lot of "don't know" here...)...

 

[calodo2003]

I don't know if it was a bonafide rumor or just logically connecting the dots (like a Tee Higgins trade) but I heard DC mentioned as a dark horse.

Something about Dan Snyder giving the middle finger on his way out by guaranteeing huge sums of money then passing that on to the next owner (also don't know how that escrow money would work so there's a lot of "don't know" here...)...

Not after they took Brissett imo.

 

[RobinLFC]

We still don't know what Lamar is actually after and there have also been reports that he doesn't want a fully guaranteed deal. He's getting slaughtered just because he doesn't have an agent but far worse situations have been created with an actual agent involved. I don't see how we can blame him in this situation without knowing for sure what has been going on. There are so many factors at play here (QB contracts given out last year, his label as "running" or "injury prone" QB, the Ravens' unwillingness to commit, ...) that it's impossible to simply state that he has played this poorly.