He's on the decline. Come on, we are not that desperate.
N'Golo Kante
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
He’s 31, and has looked knackered at times this season. Chelsea probably can’t believe their luck.
It would be hilarious if Matic left and we went and signed Kante from Chelsea. The mere fact that Chelsea are apparently happy for him to leave tells you everything
Is this another case of we scouted 1001 DMs and we end up with a 31 year old and on the decline player?
Tuchel isn’t to be fair
This feels like a Woodward signing. Big name past his prime available on the cheap.
While I can't dismiss the feeling about us doing some stupid deals (in recent past), in this case, if Kante available for cheap, he'smore likely to move to PSG (previously linked with him a lot), or Tottenham. Not just CL football, but somewhere he would feel more comfortable. London, Paris vs Manchester. Having previously work under Conte vs start of a project under ETH.
No, Kante has not been consistent and outside of a couple of great CL performances in 2021 has been poor and inconsistent. It's just not reported so people just assume he is great based off his past reputation and name.
Getting Kante when he is not at the peak of his powers anymore and while Pogba (who shines with Kante next to him) is leaving... seems like smart business
If we sign Kante for name recognition value, then obviously nothing has changed with the club's philosophy and we will continue to fail. I'm fairly hopeful that they've finally realised this way isn't going to work though. If we sign Kante because ETH wants him and thinks he can do a job, then I'm fully behind it.
This is the signing we needed to make when we still had pogba. I dunno if Kante will be good for us now.
We should be realistic that we are not currently attractive to attract the top talents that we need. Apart from Tchouameni, I don't see much quality CDMs out there.
Kante will be a cheap and quality short term solution to our CDM position issues while we plan for a quality replacement for the future. I am in.
Kante will be a cheap and quality short term solution to our CDM position issues while we plan for a quality replacement for the future. I am in.
If Ten Hag wants an all action lawnmower midfielder than get Laimer or Enzo Fernandez, you just know if we buy Kante it will end up like Schweinsteiger and Matic, especially the former given Kante's injury issues which you know will only worsen here.
No way Chelsea let him go, surely? He's had some injuries and some struggles coming back from injuries, but I don't think that constitutes this "decline" a lot of people are going on about. People thought he was in decline a couple of years ago and he came back stronger than ever - I wouldn't bet against him doing it again.
On the cheap? That's not Woodward's style.
On one hand it's Kante, who has been one of the best at what he does for years.
On the other hand we bought Matic in similar circumstances at a younger age, with Chelsea fans saying he was on the decline, and while he had some good spells, we spent most of the time moaning that he didn't have the legs, and would have been better years before.
Completely different physique on the two of them. Look at Modric at 36 who is much more similar physically to Kante.
I’m not particularly for this move, but comparing to Matic seems wrong.
Chelsea midfielder past his peak is the link.
Is Kante at 31 past his peak? I think Ronaldo was past his peak from 28-36.
Ten Hag has a habit of buying older players who are seemingly on the decline or not that great to begin with and getting out of them more than most people expect.
Conte wasn't with Matic either at the time
And he was right, they shouldn't have sold him that year when the plan was to sign Bakayoko.
Why would they sell other than for injuries, which is exactly why we should avoid him? Why would he want to leave to come to us?
Kante next to de Jong under ten hag would be class
It's not an age thing it's a personal situation thing.
Kante certainly isn't the machine he was.
Is he better than McFred in that position though. That's a certainty.
Some people here would honestly give out about any signing. Outside the box signings are unproven, someone from a weaker league is a ‘hipster signing’ or ‘know it alls’ want him. And then the most decorated and proven midfielder we could possibly buy and he’s too old…
And injury prone*
Peter Walton will always agree with the ref's decision
Peter Walton stuttering to make up this shit sound like the referee's decision is correct
I Kante believe it
Signing a 31 year old would only make sense for some silly american owners, trying to over-compensate and show a big name
Been wondering when this one would appear - we've bought Chelsea "sells offs" before and no one can say they were a resounding success (sadly). That said, maybe this is where we are at present...
What is the rumoured price?
Did you see him against Liverpool ? He was basically the same as he was the last 3-4 years. He did things in terms of pressing and harassing no player in our team is close to doing
Like we did with Van Persie ?
RVP finished a full season uninjured and was still peak
He played more for Chelsea this season than mctominay did for us. The idea that he's washed up and utterly past it is ludicrous.
He was also the best player and big match performer during a CL winning run just a year ago. Like I've said, we could do so so much worse than Kante this summer.
Would be the best DM at United post-Fergie by a country mile and if ETH rates and thinks he can get the most out of him then I'd trust that.
Anyone who watched United play Chelsea at Old Trafford last month surely saw he’s not finished as a player by any means.