I don’t know what industry this guy is in but likely he wants less regulations on something and it’s proven that reform will do anything for money
Nigel Farage - Reform leader
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I don’t know what industry this guy is in but likely he wants less regulations on something and it’s proven that reform will do anything for money
To quote The Matrix Reloaded, what do all men with power want? More power.
Count Binfaces Manifesto is fantastic. 
Jack aged 10 should be his shadow chancellor. Every small party can have a shadow cabinet, and they don't need to sit in any government body.Count Binfaces Manifesto is fantastic.
Yes, but he has missed the most important point....Count Binfaces Manifesto is fantastic.
"I will be the only 'talking bin' in parliament, but the only MP not talking rubbish!
Good to see Reform’s vote continuing to slide in the latest polls. The one out today gives Labour a clear lead.
Obviously this is Burnham’s honeymoon period and there will be choppy waters ahead when he actually has to make tough decisions, like on social care funding, but there’s a chance Reform’s support may not get back to where it was a year ago, especially if the pressure on Farage continues and Restore keep outflanking them on the right.
Obviously this is Burnham’s honeymoon period and there will be choppy waters ahead when he actually has to make tough decisions, like on social care funding, but there’s a chance Reform’s support may not get back to where it was a year ago, especially if the pressure on Farage continues and Restore keep outflanking them on the right.
Well this isn't great, it seems Restore's Rupert Lowe wants to join forces with Farage and co. This will only increase Reform votes, provided good ol' Nigel accepts Rupert's proposal.
Wait, there's both a 'Reform Britain' and a 'Reform UK'? That seems wildly impractical.
Restore Britain and Reform UK.
Restore leans more into immigration issues than Reform. Lowe is probably more of a bigot than Nigel.
Ah ok, I got confused. Still, those party names are quite adjacent. I could imagine some voters getting a bit confused.
It will be even less great when the Tories join them both and they all sign up to the 'Grand Coalition of the Right' to fight the next GE.
Andy Burnham now has to make rapid use of his massive PLP commons vote majority in the next 2-3 years to make that 'Dial spin'.
Take no prisoners Andy (from your own side) or the oppositions, you have roughly a 100 days to finish off with the public announcements, and after laying it all out, then press the button; it does not matter what the opposition (even combined) shout about.... they can do nothing against your majority.
This is the only chance like this Labour will ever get, if the dial does not move now, it never will and Starmer will have been knifed in the back for nothing.
fecking knew this was his game all along.
Edit: Also shows what a psychopath this guy is. Posting political demands at 7:25 on a Sunday morning.
restore and many of their more vocal (batshit crazy racist) supporters would be toxic for reform. for the 8% they gain lets say, they would loose far more. a calculation farage already made in keeping ten names tommy at arms length..but then again he might think with the support of the likes of Elon and Vance et al this might be his one major last shot at power, even if it burns everything down in the end...
Restore would create problems for Reform, although with the swing of the media to the far right, they might do well, concerningly.
Starmer knifed himself... in the leg. As did his team of McSweeney and Mandelson. Get over it.
Lowe, who was a member of parliament for Reform until 2025, when he was kicked out of the party, outlined five points that he said they would have to agree on to be able to find a "common way forward."
Firstly, Lowe said securing Britain's borders must be a priority.
"Ending mass immigration is not enough. The hour is just too late for that. It must be reversed," he said, adding: "Every illegal migrant must be deported."
Lowe's second condition centred on "demographic security" and "reversing the Islamification of Britain."
Lowe cited unspecified projections that he said showed white Britons could one day become a minority in the UK, saying: "Nothing demonstrates the demographic vandalism of mass immigration more than that."
He added that any cooperation between Restore Britain and Reform would hinge on an agreement to ban the burqa, halal and kosher slaughter, and cousin marriage, as well as "Sharia courts" and "mass dominating public Islamic prayer."
The third condition set out by Lowe was a referendum on the reintroduction of the death penalty.
"The British people must be given a full, free, and fair referendum" on the matter, he told Farage.
Fourthly, Lowe insisted they would need to commit to "restoring a self-sufficient Britain," which he said could be achieved by controlling spending, cuts to welfare, and tackling inflation.
Lowe warned "enormous cuts" would have to be made to make the plan a reality and that "difficult, unpopular decisions" would need to be taken.
His final condition was an agreement to restore trust in UK politics, as he said the country had "entirely lost faith in Westminster."
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I don't even think Reform can agree to these demands.
Firstly, Lowe said securing Britain's borders must be a priority.
"Ending mass immigration is not enough. The hour is just too late for that. It must be reversed," he said, adding: "Every illegal migrant must be deported."
Lowe's second condition centred on "demographic security" and "reversing the Islamification of Britain."
Lowe cited unspecified projections that he said showed white Britons could one day become a minority in the UK, saying: "Nothing demonstrates the demographic vandalism of mass immigration more than that."
He added that any cooperation between Restore Britain and Reform would hinge on an agreement to ban the burqa, halal and kosher slaughter, and cousin marriage, as well as "Sharia courts" and "mass dominating public Islamic prayer."
The third condition set out by Lowe was a referendum on the reintroduction of the death penalty.
"The British people must be given a full, free, and fair referendum" on the matter, he told Farage.
Fourthly, Lowe insisted they would need to commit to "restoring a self-sufficient Britain," which he said could be achieved by controlling spending, cuts to welfare, and tackling inflation.
Lowe warned "enormous cuts" would have to be made to make the plan a reality and that "difficult, unpopular decisions" would need to be taken.
His final condition was an agreement to restore trust in UK politics, as he said the country had "entirely lost faith in Westminster."
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I don't even think Reform can agree to these demands.
Not within a 'Grand coalition of the Right' involving the Tories taking to the field in 2029
Don't think you really believe that is what happened to Starmer.....do you?
Starmer got a Labour government into the most powerful position it has ever been in, at the last GE. I agree he was not the ideal Labour leader, in many respects, but
Burnham's 'Palace Coup' followed by his 'Cornation' has left a sour taste for many inside and outside the party. However, it has now put him in charge of potentially the most powerful PLP in my life time.
Andy now has to do the business, or Labours claim to protect and represent working people will be destroyed for the foreseeable future.
Sky News letting Yusuf (not an MP or elected official) share his wild ridiculous invasion stories for over 5 minutes this morning. Basically saying millions will come and Iran are sending suicide bombers via the channel.
We're at the point where even Twitter has better moderation to correct false narratives.
We're at the point where even Twitter has better moderation to correct false narratives.
Tice under investigation by the parliamentary standards watchdog.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ceqe24qjgzdo
No doubt once again the 'establishment' are out to get Reform.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ceqe24qjgzdo
No doubt once again the 'establishment' are out to get Reform.
Why are Nigel Farage and Zia Yusuf having widespread coverage on Sky & GB News this morning?
They're going to use the navy to stop the small boat "crisis", what does that look like then?
Machine gunning inflatables until they get the message? British navy ships landing people on French beaches? What have the French said about that?
Whats the story with that £5m Nigel? Hoping everyone's forgotten about that now?
They're going to use the navy to stop the small boat "crisis", what does that look like then?
Machine gunning inflatables until they get the message? British navy ships landing people on French beaches? What have the French said about that?
Whats the story with that £5m Nigel? Hoping everyone's forgotten about that now?
Two non-MPs too. I assume they’ll be giving a right of reply to Count Binface and the other 20-odd Clacton candidates?
The plans, unveiled on Monday, suggest military personnel would accompany migrants back to ports on the other side of the English Channel, overriding French objections if necessary.
The party claim the proposals would form the "largest military operation" in the Channel since World War Two.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr59qyy4l5yo
Apparently this would be done by the RN or Marines
The party claim the proposals would form the "largest military operation" in the Channel since World War Two.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr59qyy4l5yo
Apparently this would be done by the RN or Marines
They know that plan isn’t viable. They’ve only announced it to get Farage on national news in the middle of purdah
They'll do anything for power. Especially for their old mate Rupert.
It's amazing it's even a problem. It's not like the boats are fast or hard to spot. Or that a massive group of people, all wearing hi vis life jackets are hard to follow.
Why someone doesn't just start arresting the drivers/boat operators on site is beyond me.
The boat operators aren't on the boats, just the migrants. There was that daft situation where the hapless individual that tried to steer it got arrested for trafficking, when in reality he was just one of the migrants who'd deigned to drive it to avoid running into shipping in the Channel.
Technically... he was still trafficking.
I'm sure it was helpful to boost the arrests statistics to try and placate the right wing press.
Amazing these things need to be explained to adults that seem to think they're basically bus drivers on dinghies.
I love the inclusion of a random WW2 reference.
There have been a recent series of photos claiming to identify the people who bring/drive the boats - it's not like they just spawn at the beach. No doubt these are low paid, bottom of the chain crooks, but you have to start somewhere.
If you think about your response, it really makes no sense. If every single person on the boat is an asylum seeker, where has the boat come from? There must be a point of origin for the colossal blow up dinghy?
Would it not just be that the person who found the boat didn’t get on said boat?
Like you say, that's the (low level) operative who takes it to the shore and pushes it off into the sea. I agree these folk should be targeted and hopefully could lead to some arrests higher up the chain. They aren't 'drivers' though.
There have defo been a number of people filmed/photo'ed actually driving it/sailing it (whatever) when at sea and then their faces linked to ID cards etc. but even if what you say is correct - that there is not a single criminal on the boat once it is afloat - if you just keep arresting the people bringing, inflating, putting to sea the boat, then no one will bother coming after a short while.
Crazy. The guy from the garage I bought my car from still drives with me to work every day.
Yeah, I can’t see how there would be any paid employees of the gangs onboard, because everyone on the boat is detained and the boat itself seized as soon as they land. It’s not like the boat driver drops off his passengers then heads off back to France.
Also as someone part of the organisation I wouldn’t want to do that freaking dangerous as hell journey.
I’d certainly want a pay rise.
I'm going to assume they would either pay someone who is happy to risk arrest in order to gain entry to the UK/seek asylum or simply they just send someone who is happy to get picked up, processed and then deported. As it stands I think the worst that can happen in terms of punishment is the UK try and use these new endangerment charges for drivers, which tends to only stick if you are silly enough to film yourself driving and seem to carry a ~2 year sentence.
Yes, I spotted that as well. Always got to mention the war, which WE WON. As if they had anything to do with it or wouldn't run a mile if they were about to be called up.
It's anything but random, it's deliberate and it plays to the notion of Britain 'being under attack'. Also in a wider sense it is implying we ought to be 'kicking sand' in the face of those French scoundrels, taking our money but doing nothing to stop the trafficking.
Oh yes.... the 'small boat' problem is deliberately being notched up again, by Reform.... partly to provide cover for 'Nigel's own £5M gift problem attempted getaway' ... and partly to prepare the 'banana skins' for Andy Burnham once he has no choice, but to comment!
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