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Yeah but his English (like Henderson) so let’s take the focus away from him.True, but it's the card dealt and he's not to blame for his transfer fee.
Yeah but his English (like Henderson) so let’s take the focus away from him.True, but it's the card dealt and he's not to blame for his transfer fee.
Hard to say why but I also feel like our goal gets peppered with shots when De Gea is in there. Some of our defending was comical.Genuine question as only able to see highlights. Since Henderson got in, conceded more than once in three games, De Gea being goal for two of them. Defensively looked a mess yesterday. Is there a correlation? Or was it the changes/foot off the gas due to lead. Things feel a bit more chaotic in our box with De Gea there. Made a big number of saves but I’d expect my goalkeeper to make the ones I saw. Maybe in the moment they felt better.
it’s harsh but I think we start with Henderson.Do we start with Henderson for the final? We conceded 3 and De Gea had to make numerous saves. We seem like a much more organised defensive unit with Henderson in there.
What are you on about?Yeah but his English (like Henderson) so let’s take the focus away from him.
Can we also include context.Do we start with Henderson for the final? We conceded 3 and De Gea had to make numerous saves. We seem like a much more organised defensive unit with Henderson in there.
So which of the 5 were not a fifth? AWB, Harry and Shaw started the match so not sure where these 1/4's are coming from?Can we also include context.
3/4 in defence are not starters.
Mcto was not there to shield the defence.
That is the reason we were a mess, not De Gea.
We conceded our goals in the second half after Shaw and AWB were removed, Lindelof was not playing. The only consistent person on that back line was Maguire.So which of the 5 were not a fifth? AWB, Harry and Shaw started the match so not sure where these 1/4's are coming from?
Starting XI: De Gea, Wan-Bissaka, Bailly, Maguire, Shaw and our goal was peppered with shots throughout the match.
Yeah, we went into the game with a four-goal lead and we went into the second half with a five-goal lead, which is when Williams and Telles subbed in for AWB and Shaw. Oh, and Roma did show up to play.Genuine question as only able to see highlights. Since Henderson got in, conceded more than once in three games, De Gea being goal for two of them. Defensively looked a mess yesterday. Is there a correlation? Or was it the changes/foot off the gas due to lead? Things feel a bit more chaotic in our box with De Gea there. Made a big number of saves but I’d expect my goalkeeper to make the ones I saw. Maybe in the moment they felt better.
We were cut to pieces many times in the first half, lack of organisation throughout the team. Not quarters in that. To remove Dave from any responsibility of any goals conceded isn't correct, he is part of a defence and sat on his line throughout the game, our defence always looks better with Henderson, so obviously who is in goal has an effect. Dave had a very good game stopping shot and was very fortunate with some of them, as they were basically blasted right at him.We conceded our goals in the second half after Shaw and AWB were removed, Lindelof was not playing. The only consistent person on that back line was Maguire.
Strikers were getting a free run on De Gea, I don’t see how he is to blame for that.
It had nothing to do with De Gea.Genuine question as only able to see highlights. Since Henderson got in, conceded more than once in three games, De Gea being goal for two of them. Defensively looked a mess yesterday. Is there a correlation? Or was it the changes/foot off the gas due to lead? Things feel a bit more chaotic in our box with De Gea there. Made a big number of saves but I’d expect my goalkeeper to make the ones I saw. Maybe in the moment they felt better.
That was my sense but admittedly from highlights alone, I appreciate. Looked chaotic back there!I just don't remember watching us with Henderson in goal having so many shots needing to be saved? I'm sure they've happened, and my minds just letting me down. But seeing us look shambolic and De Gea facing shot after shot just seems to happen quite often. Maybe it was due to the whole setup of the game, the tie being over, weaker defence, added to the off balanced look of how we played. Either way we looked a mess back there.
Henderson does have more command in his own area and is more dominant in coming for the ball whereas DDG relies more on his reflexes. Im sure Hendersons style inspires more confidence in the defence and its shown in our recent games. So I'd like to see Henderson as #1 from this moment; it means DDG will leave, his huge wages cannot be justified if hes #2 keeper but hes been a fantastic servant of the club and deserves nothing but our praise and thanks, and a nice little testimonial later.Do we start with Henderson for the final? We conceded 3 and De Gea had to make numerous saves. We seem like a much more organised defensive unit with Henderson in there.
"Some".Some view De Gea as one of the best players yesterday
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But watching that performance made me love the fact that he has been dropped for Henderson.
Less magical saves and a bit more of an imposing goalkeeper in our box.
De Gea will start. 100%.it’s harsh but I think we start with Henderson.
Henderson will not accept going on loan. That’s a non starter. Being a fan of the club should have nothing to do with it.United are on the cusp of really challenging for the title next season. De Gea's experience in title campaigns will be valuable. Definitely should be our number 1 next season imo.
This is right for the club. If Henderson is such a United fan and loves the club as much as he said then he won't mind playing 2nd fiddle or going on loan for 1 more year.
No I think he had a great performance, I just prefer the more whole rounded approach to goalkeeping."Some".
He was quite clearly one of the best players yesterday, which is why he has been roundly praised everywhere outside of the deepest parts of United forums, where idiots and agenda-posters dwell.
Normally I'd be more balanced about people having subjective opinions but if someone doesn't think De Gea was one of the best performers yesterday, then they are stupid.
This is what I'm saying.I see our CB and midfield more composed when dean is playing. He’s more vocal and I sense better at organizing defense.
Yet VDS organised his defence so well which had far better players. Why did he need to do so?I agree. But for what we paid to get Maguire, and the fact he is captain, you’d hope he was capable of getting his defenders on the same page.
His what is English?Yeah but his English (like Henderson) so let’s take the focus away from him.
And de Gea who, as we all know, couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery, let alone the defence in front of him.We conceded our goals in the second half after Shaw and AWB were removed, Lindelof was not playing. The only consistent person on that back line was Maguire.
Strikers were getting a free run on De Gea, I don’t see how he is to blame for that.
I think so too, but I also thought the same with Romero last season...De Gea will start. 100%.
His shot stopping hasn't been amazing for the last three years though. He still pulls off the odd great save (less this season than previously) and obviously had a great match against Roma, but in general there hasn't been anything amazing about his shot stopping for quite some time.Yeah, too many such statements have been recently posted on here about de Gea. His shot stopping is too amazing to just ignore it, though.