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I think it’s time Henderson got a decent run to find out what he’s got. I don’t think we should be buying a GK when we have more important areas to be worrying about.
We are in a tight fight for top 4 every year. That's the bare minimum pressure that Henderson has to deal with if he wants the shirt.We're still very much in a tight fight for top 4
Eh for me if De Gea keeps being poor and Henderson still isn't getting a proper sniff, why should he stick around to "fight" if no matter how the other performs he still keeps his place. It's not a fair fight.Not a fan of the "If i'm not nr 1 i leave" - attitude.
Fight for the spot, DDG isn't in his best form, so it's just up to him to show he can do better.
Its more a case of him being too loyal to some players and De Gea being a club legend. Lukaku wasn`t really a big figure he`s easier to cast out and he`s never dropped Pogba due to him being a serious detriment to the team. He`s yet to really drop Martial or Lindelof and it took a while before he finally cast out Lingard/Pereira completely this is more to do with Ole being too nice rather than Henderson`s ability. You are the one here who doesn`t rate himBut the manager doesn’t want to give him more of a chance. It’s not like Solskjaer hasn’t shown the balls to drop big name players before. He did it sharply with Lukaku and has dropped Pogba many times. Henderson has started one league game this season and he dropped as big a clanger as De Gea has all season. I don’t really see it in Henderson. The manager doesn’t seem to either.
And we might as well bottle it again by sticking with De Gea.We're still very much in a tight fight for top 4
Agree with this except I also think Henderson should be getting more game time to actually show he can do better. There's only so much you can prove in training.Not a fan of the "If i'm not nr 1 i leave" - attitude.
Fight for the spot, DDG isn't in his best form, so it's just up to him to show he can do better.
But how long do you let that go on for? De Gea has been in poor form pretty much all season and still hasn't been dropped. It wouldn't give you a whole lot of confidence that you would ever take his place.Not a fan of the "If i'm not nr 1 i leave" - attitude.
Fight for the spot, DDG isn't in his best form, so it's just up to him to show he can do better.
He has consistently shown he is solid when he has played, De Gea has consistently cost us points this season.Not a fan of the "If i'm not nr 1 i leave" - attitude.
Fight for the spot, DDG isn't in his best form, so it's just up to him to show he can do better.
He's notNeither, get Donnarumma or Oblak in.
De Gea should be sold. I'd keep Henderson as no.2 if he's happy.
He dropped Pogba after the Spurs game and wouldn’t play him in central midfield again for ages. If he rated Henderson above De Gea, he’d play him. Time will tell if he’s just biding his time. For now, all evidence points to rating De Gea higher. Despite what you think.Its more a case of him being too loyal to some players and De Gea being a club legend. Lukaku wasn`t really a big figure he`s easier to cast out and he`s never dropped Pogba due to him being a serious detriment to the team. He`s yet to really drop Martial or Lindelof and it took a while before he finally cast out Lingard/Pereira completely this is more to do with Ole being too nice rather than Henderson`s ability. You are the one here who doesn`t rate him
DDG has been our nr 1 for like 200 years, i think he'll be nr 1 for the rest of the season and Henderson get cup games.But how long do you let that go on for? De Gea has been in poor form pretty much all season and still hasn't been dropped. It wouldn't give you a whole lot of confidence that you would ever take his place.
It feels like Henderson won't get a proper chance until De Gea s injured. At the moment, I wouldn't be surprised if that seems like the only route to Henderson.
Henderson is barely getting any game time to prove himself, anyway. In the end, it seems like a vicious circle.
This is a daft argument. If we bought someone of Hendersons quality he would expect to start, just like all top keepers. Especially witnessesing DDGs performances.I can understand Henderson's frustrations (even if I thought it was pretty clear De Gea would be #1 this season). At the same time, the idea that he should assured of being #1 next year also rankles.
The key point is that he has to be given more gametime this season to see what he's made of. At that point it's on him to earn the #1 spot rather than expect to be given it.
This is true and we won't know until he has had an extended run in the PL for United.I don’t think any of us can judge whether Henderson is up to the task yet.
Absolutely, if we are going to have a decision to make in the Summer we need to know if he can handle it so it's an informed decision.I think we need to give Henderson the job for the remainder of this season to work out whether he can be trusted for next season, or we need to buy a new keeper.
Ole needs to have the balls to do it because we need to see what Hendo is like week in, week out under big pressure and not just sporadic games here and there.
You say "top keeper" like Henderson has actually proven he's a top keeper.This is a daft argument. If we bought someone of Hendersons quality he would expect to start, just like all top keepers. Especially witnessesing DDGs performances.
The difference is that Henderson was arguably the best keeper in the premier league last season. There is no way that anyone should be able to form a judgement that he isn’t good enough currently. What I’ve seen this season is a keeper who started nervously but has grown into his role in the matches he has had and looked very assured - far more than De Gea in recent weeks.Henderson wouldn’t start for Arsenal. If Henderson leaves United it will be for a club like West Ham. That for me says it’s De Gea or somebody else. Henderson’s reputation is growing on this forum just for not being De Gea. Reminds me a little of when people tried to fool themselves into thinking Darmian or Varela were going to be great just because they’re weren’t Valencia.
This is what I don’t get. He’s shown no more than Nick Pope and I doubt many would want him starting for United. This forum has gone overboard on De Gea. Last season most were convincing themselves Romero was a Premier League quality goalkeeper and yet he’s still at United as fourth choice keeper because nobody wants him.You say "top keeper" like Henderson has actually proven he's a top keeper.
He's had one good season at PL level playing for Sheffield United. There's not a chance in hell we would have actually bought a goalkeeper to be our #1 based on that. He's in a position to challenge De Gea because he was already available to us at no cost, not because he's already proven his quality to such an extent that he can just expect to be Manchester United's #1.
He absolutely was not the best keeper in the league last season.The difference is that Henderson was arguably the best keeper in the premier league last season. There is no way that anyone should be able to form a judgement that he isn’t good enough currently. What I’ve seen this season is a keeper who started nervously but has grown into his role in the matches he has had and looked very assured - far more than De Gea in recent weeks.
It may transpire that, over a sustained run of games and under the glare of playing for United, weaknesses become apparent and it is shown he isn’t good enough for the very top level. However, we simply aren’t going to know that unless we give him a run of matches.
Not yet he wouldn't, and I'm sure there'll be a stepping stone move in the meantime, but it wouldn't surprise me if that happens. The point is though we have no idea how good he is, and at this rate we won't find out until he's gone and consistently starting elsewhere.Henderson wouldn’t start for Arsenal. If Henderson leaves United it will be for a club like West Ham. That for me says it’s De Gea or somebody else. Henderson’s reputation is growing on this forum just for not being De Gea. Reminds me a little of when people tried to fool themselves into thinking Darmian or Varela were going to be great just because they’re weren’t Valencia.
We are not giving him proper game time. He was one of top keeper in PL least season though.Problem is Henderson plays so little we won't be able to properly asses him to make that big a decision (of having him as No1).
Plus who would buy De Gea on his wages.
Pogba was still feeling the after effects of COVID hence why he was dropped he even came out in an interview saying it affected him heavily do your research.He dropped Pogba after the Spurs game and wouldn’t play him in central midfield again for ages. If he rated Henderson above De Gea, he’d play him. Time will tell if he’s just biding his time. For now, all evidence points to rating De Gea higher. Despite what you think.
Lukaku was a £75m signing and our top scorer the previous season. How was he not a big figure? You can’t just change the facts to suit your narrative.
It’s not like he had other options than Pereira and Lingard and the fact he regularly switched between them showed he was happy with neither. As soon as he had a better option he dropped them like a stone. Same goes for Lindelof. Who was he going to drop him for?
I know he had Covid but Solskjaer played him regardless. He didn’t drop him after getting Covid. He dropped him when his performances were hurting the team. When he brought him back in it was out wide because he didn’t trust him to defend. He dropped Matic after that game also when those two had been first choice since the restart.Pogba was still feeling the after effects of COVID hence why he was dropped he even came out in an interview saying it affected him heavily do your research.
Lukaku was a big signing yes but not a club legend like De Gea. Its much easier to drop an underperforming big money signing than an underperforming legend its not changing facts its saying them as they are
We are quite clearly a MUCH better team with Bailly in defence even Stevie Wonder can see it. He has injury problems but you dont need to be a genius to know that he should play WHEN HE IS FIT whilst rotating him wisely
he absolutely was one of the best. DDG was one of the worst and is so again this season.He absolutely was not the best keeper in the league last season.
Matter of opinion really. I think Henderson is being remarkably overrated.he absolutely was one of the best. DDG was one of the worst and is so again this season.
would not surprise me at all if Ole is instructed when to play both to protect value of DDG.
Anyone with a pair of eyes can see he is way of the mark for the third season running, costing us points that will:again hinder our progress. How dumb is Woody or whoever is responsible for mega contracts for Jines, Sanchez, Ddgto name but three