- Jan 17, 2012
Another hat trick
It's very impressive what he's doing. Hyperbole it is not and never was. And this comment was from the first match of the season. He was never a fluke coming from Dortmund and his European scoring up to that time forced a second look. And then just his first match in the league, it made you think...yeah, never have seen this before and it's crazy what could happen.Frightening? Good lord the hyperbole is insane. The entire league apparatus, pundits, fans are all jizzing over this guy. WHU were pushed up the pitch at 1-0 down and got caught on transition, no one talks about this when Vardy does it.
We sent our scout Tommy Moller Nielsen to watch him at Molde when he was 17, he scored 4 goals in 20 minutes I think.Sickening that with a more competent ownership we could have signed him a couple of times. One of those players you would love at your club but otherwise has a massively punchable face.
I think the stats I'm looking at include internation football (Messi scored 9 for Argentina, including 6 in friendlies during that season). And they got Haaland at 40 (before today's goals). Also at 1 goal every 74 minutes... He has got to be at 68 with tonight. And even better ratio when you take away international football.In that season Messi scored 73 goals in 5,221 minutes. That's a goal every 72 minutes. Amazing.
So far Haaland has scored 42 goals in 2,868 minutes. That's a goal every 68 minutes....
In terms of production, Messi was even better the year after. In 12/13 - Messi scored 60 goals in 4,070 minutes - a goal every 67.8 minutes. He would've broken his record from the year before if he didn't get injured.In that season Messi scored 73 goals in 5,221 minutes. That's a goal every 72 minutes. Amazing.
So far Haaland has scored 42 goals in 2,871 minutes. That's a goal every 68 minutes....
In fairness, overlooking his weaknesses seem fair if he covers them in hattricks.He's obviously great but I still don't think matches like Leipzig or Burnley prove the criticism wrong. Part of the truth is also that you could void 28 of his goals without changing one match outcome.
Player goals are no means in itself. It's fun seeing a player like this and thinking 'haha, he scored ANOTHER hattrick' in disbelieg to the point he almost becomes a meme but I still think people overlook the weaker aspects of his game because of it.
Anyway, hope he destroys Bayern next
Ah right. Don't think the 40 would include Haaland's international goals this season though. Add them in and he's now on 48 (6 in 6 internationally). At any rate as a ratio he's keeping up with the best to ever do it having his best ever season.I think the stats I'm looking at include internation football (Messi scored 9 for Argentina, including 6 in friendlies during that season). And they got Haaland at 40 (before today's goals). Also at 1 goal every 74 minutes... He has got to be at 68 with tonight. And even better ratio when you take away international football.
Please calm downIt is not getting easier. 20 goals is still a good, it's just not a world beater number. Only 4 times in the history of the PL would 20 goals be enough to win you the golden boot, while 9 times you'd need 30+ and 18 times you'd need 25+ goals
Topscorers in the PL (The PL has never been better btw):
In the 90's:
92/93 - 22
93/94 - 34
94/95 - 34
95/96 - 31
96/97 - 25
97/98 - 18
98/99 - 18
99/00 - 30
In the 00's:
00/01 - 23
01/02 - 24
02/03 - 25
03/04 - 30
04/05 - 25
05/06 - 27
06/07 - 20
07/08 - 31
08/09 - 19
09/10 - 29
In the 10's
10/11 - 20
11/12 - 30
12/13 - 26
13/14 - 31
14/15 - 26
15/16 - 25
16/17 - 29
17/18 - 32
Since the PL started having 38 game seasons in the 95/96 season (42 before that) and up to the 17/18 season the average goals needed to win the golden boot was 26 goals.
18/19 - 22
19/20 - 23
20/21 - 22
21/22 - 23
The PL has never been stronger compared to the rest of Europe than in this period, and never has the gap between the bottom 5 and the top 5 teams in the league been smaller.
Haaland is the only one who is scoring at this level in Europe. The rest are not breaking any records, quite the contrary actually. Here's the topscorers in all competitions for players in the top 5 leagues this season:
Haaland 39 (1,25 goals/90)
Mbappe 31 (1,08 goals/90) (5 of those goals came in a match against a level 6 amateur team in the French cup)
Lewandowski 25 (0,84 goals/90)
Rashford 25 (0,71 goals/90)
Osimhen 23 (0,94 goals/90)
Kane 22 (0,60 goals/90)
Salah 22 (0,60 goals/90)
The thing many seems to not fully understand is how extreme what he's doing really is He is scoring more than anyone to ever play the game in Europe at his age. He isn't just a really good young goalscorer, he is the best European football has ever seen. In his first 8 months in England he's already the fastest to score 10 goals, 15 goals, 20 goals, 25 goals, 2 hattricks, 3 hattricks , 4 hattricks in the PL ever. He is also the fastest to 10 goals, 15 goals, 20 goals, 25 goals and 30 goals ever in the CL. Just as he was in the Bundesliga. He has already beaten City's 94 year old record for most goals in all comps in a single season (we're still only in March), and he'll most likely break the all time PL record in his debut season. He has a mindblowing 33 goals in 1866 minutes of CL football and just reached double digits in the CL for the 3rd time. He has the record for most goals in WC match for U20s (9 goals against Honduras). etc....
He is standing out so strongly that it's getting ridiculous.
Plenty of strikers are more impressive when it comes to dribbling, ballcarrying and playmaking, but he is so much better than anyone else when it comes to movement, physique, finishing, spacial awareness, reactions and end product. Even R9 pre injury.
He has a unique skillset and I think if City learns how to play more to his strenghts, what we're seeing now is low numbers. City and Haaland are still work in progress. He scored 4 non penalty goals on Tuesday and none of them were from passes from teammates...
@Zehner might not be impressed by any of this, but he should be. Would you really rather have Kane if you could choose? He contributes in defence and by occupying and moving defenders around (often two) too btw.
Unique talent and I expect every goalscoring record in European football to be broken by this guy.
Sad he went for the sportswashers on the wrong side of town.
Haaland had always had a plan to develop this way. He was never going to a big club after Molde. It was a methodical approach and it obviously paid off for everyone involved in all his transfers. United and everybody knew about him. Blaming Ole and the club is stupid. All the other big clubs who could afford him missed out too and were stupid to not sign him...but only blame United?We sent our scout Tommy Moller Nielsen to watch him at Molde when he was 17, he scored 4 goals in 20 minutes I think.
He should of been signed there and then, before the match was even over.