Feck me, the fact that Moyes was out of his depth does not mitigate the job he did here. LVG might have been a stubborn so-and-so, but he at least had the confidence and self belief that's essential for a top level manager. Moyes wilted and never gave the impression that he was in control.
OFFICIAL: Jose Mourinho is Manchester United manager | Megathread closed, start new Mourinho threads
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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Some people get a hard on watching porn in action.What could he possibly have done by now?
Some people get a hard on reading the porn website name.
Probably meant in the context of caftards reaction.
Yep.
Every thread title these days on the caf are changed for some reason.
Early days of the romance eh.A match made in heaven etc
JoMo, new Home-o(wner).
Edit: I hadn't realised about the autocorrect. It ruined everything.
Edit: I hadn't realised about the autocorrect. It ruined everything.
Jose is just...
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I think thats a little harsh on wet tissue paper.
Seriously though thats part of the reason Moyes is still defended, pity. Some people still have this idea in their heads of the poor, hard working, honest chap who tried his best and was just out of his depth. So they feel sorry for him.
The other reason in my opinion is some got so wrapped up in the deluded idea that he was somehow Fergie Mk2 and defended him so much during that season, that they still defend him and try to make out he wasn't actually that bad just a victim of circumstance and an over the hill squad. Because to admit he was absolutely atrocious at United is to also admit they were laughably wrong about Moyes.
The absolutely humongous pay-off he probably got due to the ridiculous contract he was given should be where all sympathy ends. He could probably never take a wage again and still live a lifestyle most could only dream of.
Also, when he recently said that if he took the United job again he would do nothing different, that was it for me. I'd actually have held him in high regard if he left and said "It was my fault. I made a bollocks of it. I wasn't prepared for how much was really at stake." or words to that effect, but to state pretty much that everything he did was right is quite astounding.
That is bad PR, if he wants to continue in the field of management. You can't say I was out of depth and expect another job.
The only pity I see, is? us fans having to put up with the idiot who took off for a long holiday after just getting the job, and when we were under way he went from one extreme joke after another with just fellaini signed. Then there was VG, who took forever like Moyes assess the squad, then it took us forever once again to get our transfers in order and we signed a bunch of players before september 1st, we learnt from our mistakes last year but again sold to many with no enough to cover our bearings. With Mourinho, the euro's have not even started which I find the toughest summers to get anything done with internationals about to happen, and jose already may have tied up zlaten and possibly Bailly. Jose identifies our 2 weakest area's and he has strengthened them, if we can get them all done. This is what a manager is supposed to do, identify our weakest area's and strengthen them, we may not have had this kind of management in nearly a decade where he strengthened area's that needed strengthening, its common sense to some managers
Just saw this on YT and was about to post. Funny stuff.
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Perhaps, but he doesn't have to say he was out of his depth, just that he did things wrong. I don't see admitting to mistakes as bad PR. The whole world saw the job he did at United. To say he would do it all again the same way it surely just as much as a deterrent to future employers? They'll think he is deluded and unable to adapt. For me, he should have shown he has learned something from the United failure, and not think everything went swimmingly.
Going to Sociedad and flopping was worse PR
Just going to leave this here:
It all depends on personal taste, but for me this is infinitely better to watch than any possession style of football. Fantastic.
It all depends on personal taste, but for me this is infinitely better to watch than any possession style of football. Fantastic.
"I'm a disaster with the penalties. I always lose too. I'm like England."
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The thing that's driving me up the wall, is Utd fans defending Mourinho about everything. You can't say anything negative or have any doubts without getting slated. Its pretty pathetic.
Little bit like having doubts on our attack this season in preseason after the San Jose Earthquakes? game I got slated to hell on twitter
Some of his evident weaknesses appear to have became his best assets since he became manager.
Also, isn't it just a tad early to be talking about legacy? Not even preseason yet and legacy this legacy that.
I've seen fans defend that PSG game where they got knocked out at home to 10 men psg.. seriously?
Or fans making him out to be some youth utilisation mastermind? He's certainly not as bad as made out but come on!
PS: I'm over the moon hes our manager!
Little bit like having doubts on our attack this season in preseason after the San Jose Earthquakes? game I got slated to hell on twitter
Some of his evident weaknesses appear to have became his best assets since he became manager.
Also, isn't it just a tad early to be talking about legacy? Not even preseason yet and legacy this legacy that.
I've seen fans defend that PSG game where they got knocked out at home to 10 men psg.. seriously?
Or fans making him out to be some youth utilisation mastermind? He's certainly not as bad as made out but come on!
PS: I'm over the moon hes our manager!
Definitely shows a man either as you say deluded about his own capabilities or one too proud to admit mistakes and learn from them.
I understand the thinking that he can't admit he was completely out of his depth for fear of limiting future job opportunities. But to say he would do everything exactly the same if given a second chance with the benefit of hindsight in how that worked out the first time round is downright bizarre.
This whole thread has turned into an OTT love affair for Mourinho.The thing that's driving me up the wall, is Utd fans defending Mourinho about everything. You can't say anything negative or have any doubts without getting slated. Its pretty pathetic.
Little bit like having doubts on our attack this season in preseason after the San Jose Earthquakes? game I got slated to hell on twitter
Some of his evident weaknesses appear to have became his best assets since he became manager.
Also, isn't it just a tad early to be talking about legacy? Not even preseason yet and legacy this legacy that.
I've seen fans defend that PSG game where they got knocked out at home to 10 men psg.. seriously?
Or fans making him out to be some youth utilisation mastermind? He's certainly not as bad as made out but come on!
PS: I'm over the moon hes our manager!
All roads lead to Ronaldo
Why hasn't there been a proper news conference yet? Are we waiting for Jose to have Zlatan and maybe Bailly by his side?
I think Mourinho's first press conference is set for the first week of July.
Might be the case that he can't do anything official until his Chelsea contract runs out or something like that. I doubt it but who knows.
Aye, of course!
This is exactly the type of football I want. Just pure sweaty pace, and just attack the shit out of them. I'm so excited.
Martial to match Ronaldo's speed for our break.
Zlatan to be our Benzema, a much better version.
Just need to complete that with some pace on the right, Rashford could do that but I'd be totally for buying a new right wing to fit into Mourinho's system.
I meant I'll save my excitement for something that actually warrants it. He can call Old Trafford what he likes as far as I'm concerned.What could he possibly have done by now?
It also depends on the players. Don't think it's fair to expect our attack to match the Real Madrid attack with Ronaldo at his best, along with quality players like Benzema and Higuaín, being supplied by Ozil and Modric and all in their prime years.
We're more than likely going to have an attack with Zlatan who isn't as quick as he used to be, Rooney who is already dropping deeper with wear and tear, Martial and Rashford who are both developing but far from their best years.
For me counter attacking is one of the most exciting thing in the game. I will be fine with the football as long as the tactics are correct and we actually win.
We all remember Klopp Watch, anything less then that cringeworthy muck is fine with me.
Yeah. Think he himself said the 7th.
It's clear with how Mourinho has carried himself since we annouced him that he's wanted this job for a long long time. When did he ever refer to Stamford Bridge/Chelsea as "my house"? That, plus his comments about United being a monster club, it's magical, etc. I bet he's been absolutely buzzing.
Can't wait for the season to start.
Can't wait for the season to start.
Any update on the court case between Jose and Eva?
If any of you has a spare 20 minutes, found this and thought I'd share:
Moyes was constantly referring to United as 'they' this 'they' that. He never seemed confident enough to take the club on as his own.
Jose turns up and within a few days he's referring to OT as his house. Fantastic to see and I'm really optimistic he'll be here for a long time.
Jose turns up and within a few days he's referring to OT as his house. Fantastic to see and I'm really optimistic he'll be here for a long time.
It feels good though. It's the sort of hyperbole confidence a united manager should ooze
We should get the cheapskate a bungalow so that he doesn't sleep on the pitch.
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