Okay the fans aren’t the worst

From an online perspective, anyone who believes United has the worst fans in the world has obviously not seen what goes in other online communities and is massively over-exaggerating

I used to be part of a football forum that wasn’t tied to any particular team and I have read posts from fans of other teams that vent their anger a lot more than what you get here. Some of the posts I’ve seen from fans of Arsenal, Liverpool and Leeds about their own teams failings over the years makes the most ‘toxic’ post on here look pretty tame.

Go to the Fighting Cock right now and I guarantee Postecoglou and Levy are getting it in the neck big time from Spurs fans. It happens within every fandom at some point.
 
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Gabriel Djemba-Bebe said:
Worse than these lot?
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Exactly. It is such nonsense to suggest United are even in that league. I’ve seen just two instances where Old Trafford has turned really ugly and that was the 2-0 defeat in the league before Bruno signed, and the Zirkzee incident which was really sad.

Barca and Real Madrid fans would go absolutely mental if they sank to even a quarter of the depths we have.Spurs and Arsenal fans are way harsher on their players, and the likes of West Ham, Newcastle and Everton have repeatedly booed their players off the pitch. United fans who go to the games have been absolute saints for the majority of the time.
 
Irwin99 said:
Exactly. It is such nonsense to suggest United are even in that league. I’ve seen just two instances where Old Trafford has turned really ugly and that was the 2-0 defeat in the league before Bruno signed, and the Zirkzee incident which was really sad.

Barca and Real Madrid fans would go absolutely mental if they sank to even a quarter of the depths we have.Spurs and Arsenal fans are way harsher on their players, and the likes of West Ham, Newcastle and Everton have repeatedly booed their players off the pitch. United fans who go to the games have been absolute saints for the majority of the time.
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Or Lyon fans.



An ultra calling out the players in the ground out loud on a speaker. feck me, imagine this happened at United. All the snowflakes would be having full blown meltdowns about how dreadful our fanbase is.

But everything he says applies to this current crop of United players. And they need to hear it because the message isn’t getting through. Zirkzee was slightly unfortunate that it was targeted at him. It could of course be applied to many people at the club and not just players. But zirkzee would certainly fall into that category of people who need to hear some serious shit to get their act together.
 
Zirkzee's name getting sung by the matchgoing fans to let him know the boos vs Newcastle were overreactive and wrong. Might be time for a few of the keyboard warriors on here to stop having a pop at the fans who spend a lot of money travelling to support their club in the pissing rain.
 
- Liverpool 0-3
- Spurs 0-3
- Bournemouth 0-3 (back to back 0-3 home losses to them)
- Brighton 1-3 (third loss in a row at home to Brighton)
- Newcastle 0-2
- Palace 0-2 (4th home loss to palace in 4 years)
- Forest 2-3

Seven home defeats this season and six of those by 2 or more goals.
And the most dissent the fanbase showed was the sarcastic jeering of Zirkzee against Newcastle.

We possibly have the most patient and lenient fanbase in world football, no exaggerations.
 
Ludens the Red said:
- Liverpool 0-3
- Spurs 0-3
- Bournemouth 0-3 (back to back 0-3 home losses to them)
- Brighton 1-3 (third loss in a row at home to Brighton)
- Newcastle 0-2
- Palace 0-2 (4th home loss to palace in 4 years)
- Forest 2-3

Seven home defeats this season and six of those by 2 or more goals.
And the most dissent the fanbase showed was the sarcastic jeering of Zirkzee against Newcastle.

We possibly have the most patient and lenient fanbase in world football, no exaggerations.
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Utter nonsense you can not say we have a good fanbase when we literally booed our own player of the picture after half an hour when the whole team were playing rubbish.

Then the amount of hate and abuse our own players have gotten born online and in person.
 
lsd said:
Utter nonsense you can not say we have a good fanbase when we literally booed our own player of the picture after half an hour when the whole team were playing rubbish.

Then the amount of hate and abuse our own players have gotten born online and in person.
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You really think online trolls are representative of our fanbase?
 
lsd said:
Utter nonsense you can not say we have a good fanbase when we literally booed our own player of the picture after half an hour when the whole team were playing rubbish.

Then the amount of hate and abuse our own players have gotten born online and in person.
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Quite clear im talking about match going fans.
This modern day phenomena of giving so much clout and air time to ‘online accounts’ is tedious.
 
Ludens the Red said:
Quite clear im talking about match going fans.
This modern day phenomena of giving so much clout and air time to ‘online accounts’ is tedious.
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It was match going fans booed Zirkzee after thirty minutes shamefully. It was match going fans unveiled a banner abusing Rashford. It was a match going fan abused Garnacho to his face.

I've no idea why people keep trying to say we have great fans when it's clear we have a lot of pricks and they should be pointed out.
 
lsd said:
It was match going fans booed Zirkzee after thirty minutes shamefully. It was match going fans unveiled a banner abusing Rashford. It was a match going fan abused Garnacho to his face.

I've no idea why people keep trying to say we have great fans when it's clear we have a lot of pricks and they should be pointed out.
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As I said SEVEN (7) home defeats…..

… and barely a flutter of wide scale descent from our fanbase. All you can muster up is a few hundred jeering Zirkzee during one fecking game (what about the other six home defeats) and one fan having a pop at Garnacho. Rashford fully deserved that banner for his disgusting attitude over the last year.

Your viewpoint is so hilariously clouded and flawed it’s ridiculous. Go and look at other fanbases. What do you think would happen if Bayern, Ajax , Juve , Marseille, Rangers etc lost seven home games out of twelve?
If you wanna know what happens when Marseille underperform go and google it. Same for Rangers and Real Madrid. You’re going to be in for a rude awakening. Or better yet just scroll up a few posts in this thread to see what Lyon fans did when they underperformed. Then come back to me and tell me how horrendous our fanbase is. Our fanbase is soft, lenient and far too forgiving. These mugs on the pitch disgracing the club every weekend at home should be getting booed out the building and they should count themselves very lucky that they’re not:
 
When you weigh up how bad we've been since March 2023, relative to the size of the club - our fan base are absolute saints, ambivalent to a fault almost.

The Nou Camp, Allianz, San Siro or Bernabeu would be getting torn down :confused:
 
I feel like this thread needs a bump after seeing Forest fans singing "sacked in the morning" at Postecoglou. Taunting your own manager 6 games into his tenure qualifies as being worse than United fans in my book.

The fact that the Old Trafford faithful still haven't subjected Amorim to the sort of stick that Postecoglou has already gotten from Forest fans is confirmation that the OP and others in this thread were wrong. But of course, if you don't turn on your manager inside the ground then you also get the 'top red' jibe thrown your way. Maybe one day I'll see a sensible suggestion on here about how matchgoing fans should realistically behave during a turbulent period, but I've yet to see it. Considering the long list of issues at the club that need fixing, I've never understood the impulse to jump on our own fans who spend a lot of time and money following United.
 
Frequent infighting is one of the only the downsides to having such a wide and varied fanbase. Add to that a significant fall from grace since the Fergie years and you end up with a lot of disgruntled fans pointing fingers in all directions.

Liverpool had a similar drop off to ours in the 90s & 00s. I would imagine there was infighting amongst their fanbase as they struggled to come to terms with the malaise.
 
Gabriel Djemba-Bebe said:
I feel like this thread needs a bump after seeing Forest fans singing "sacked in the morning" at Postecoglou. Taunting your own manager 6 games into his tenure qualifies as being worse than United fans in my book.

The fact that the Old Trafford faithful still haven't subjected Amorim to the sort of stick that Postecoglou has already gotten from Forest fans is confirmation that the OP and others in this thread were wrong. But of course, if you don't turn on your manager inside the ground then you also get the 'top red' jibe thrown your way. Maybe one day I'll see a sensible suggestion on here about how matchgoing fans should realistically behave during a turbulent period, but I've yet to see it. Considering the long list of issues at the club that need fixing, I've never understood the impulse to jump on our own fans who spend a lot of time and money following United.
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Let’s be honest, if Southgate had put up Amorim’s record, match-going fans would be absolutely tearing into him. Amorim seems to get a bit more patience, maybe because he's the stylish, continental option.
 
Ayoba said:
Let’s be honest, if Southgate had put up Amorim’s record, match-going fans would be absolutely tearing into him. Amorim seems to get a bit more patience, maybe because he's the stylish, continental option.
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I can’t imagine matchgoing fans ever turning against the manager. It didn’t happen against any of the coaches we have hired since SAF left, did it?
 
The Southgate point is very valid.

Hopefully we never get to know!
 
Sarni said:
I can’t imagine matchgoing fans ever turning against the manager. It didn’t happen against any of the coaches we have hired since SAF left, did it?
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The fans would’ve 100% turned on Southgate for this shite.
Fans were turning on Moyes for sure.


Amorim is getting away with it because he has previous success as club manager and most importantly he’s much MUCH more likeable than Southgate.
 
Scotty Doesn't Know said:
Frequent infighting is one of the only the downsides to having such a wide and varied fanbase. Add to that a significant fall from grace since the Fergie years and you end up with a lot of disgruntled fans pointing fingers in all directions.

Liverpool had a similar drop off to ours in the 90s & 00s. I would imagine there was infighting amongst their fanbase as they struggled to come to terms with the malaise.
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I was thinking about that earlier, back when they were shite they were quite supportive of their managers too if i recall correctly. I can't remember hearing much about mutiny. Roy Hodgson got the worst of it I think because they didn't believe in him from the start (and that's the danger if we go for Southgate), and then there was a couple of nostalgia choices like we had.

United matchgoing fans have been phenomenally supportive of managers in the post SAF era I feel. There were a few ironic cheers when we used to have a shot at goal under LVG, a bit of malice toward Fellaini in the Jose era, the 'attack, attack, attack' chants here and there but nothing like at other struggling clubs. No sacked in the morning chants from memory at any rate.

Edit- I remember the 'Chose wrong' thing with Moyes. So there is that.
 
I think our fanbase have it pretty tough to be fair.

United get by far the most negative media attention and even our own YT fan channels have cottoned on to the fact they gets more clicks if they post negative headlines.

So, not only do we have to put up with poor performances on the pitch, we are getting antagonized by the media and our own fan channels.

I can handle the media doing it, but our own fan channels putting the boot in for profit is borderline treason !
 
SteveCoppellFan said:
I think our fanbase have it pretty tough to be fair.

United get by far the most negative media attention and even our own YT fan channels have cottoned on to the fact they gets more clicks if they post negative headlines.

So, not only do we have to put up with poor performances on the pitch, we are getting antagonized by the media and our own fan channels.

I can handle the media doing it, but our own fan channels putting the boot in for profit is borderline treason !
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I have no idea what/who the most prominent United channels are, but at least the ones I'm watching (UnitedPeoplesTV, Football Iconic, AJAnalysis, sometimes Howson, although he's a little more 50/50 with his content) I haven't really heard a single "Amorim Out" voice. They're all getting a bit disillusioned, but who isn't these days :-/

I agree with your broader point though.
 
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Hans Wurst said:
I have no idea what/who the most prominent United channels are, but at least the ones I'm watching (UnitedPeoplesTV, Football Iconic, AJAnalysis, sometimes Howson, although he's a little more 50/50 with his content) I haven't really heard a single "Amorim Out" voice. They're all getting a bit disillusioned, but who isn't these days :-/

I agree with your broader point though.
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Most of the presenters on Stretford Paddock have said Amorim is a gonner without actually saying the words "Amorim out". They have also said they hope he turns it around but can't see it. At this point, you do come across as delusional if you think he should stay. I do feel for them as it's much harder to make content when they pride themselves on trying to be positive where possible (without coming across as MUTV-esque).
 
I've long felt that the scars of being called a "Glory Hunter" has caused damage to fans and made them too afraid to speak up about what's going on because they want to prove they never were "Glory Hunters" because they still support the team even after over a decade of the shit show we've had. It starts with the owners both Glazer's and INEOS. Look at how Liverpool fans acted when Hicks and Gillette were ruining their club. They rallied together and got them out. Us United fans, call protests pointless and a nuisance and act snobbish because "match going fans" still support the club.

And the Owners know this. Like great politicians, they know our fan base is divided and fickle and will just argue amongst ourselves and instead of focusing our anger on where it belongs; them. All it takes from them is a few signings and fans carry on. And they know in todays world all they have to do is leak a fake story and everyone will buy it. We had 2 sellable assets that would have helped alot to sell; Garnacho and Mainoo. The club leaks a story claiming Mainoo is asking 180K a week (which he was smart enough to deny) and go read Mainoo's thread after that. The majority was "feck him" "he's not that good" "we should sell him". The question should have been how we got into the position where we NEEDED to sell our 2 brightest young talents to begin with. And with the club doing stuff like this, is there any wonder why so many people allegedly have attitude problems.

We can continuously call ourselves "one of the biggest clubs in the world". We instruct new signings to say it, we boast about our social media numbers and revenue. Yet we don't behave like one. The biggest clubs in the world like Real Madrid and Barcelona would never tolerate a fraction of what has happened at this club. Hell, even Liverpool sacked a Champions League winning manager who the fans worshipped and a manager who brought them the closest they've been to a title if it weren't for a Gerrard slip. That's their standards and it should be ours.
 
Gabriel Djemba-Bebe said:
I feel like this thread needs a bump after seeing Forest fans singing "sacked in the morning" at Postecoglou. Taunting your own manager 6 games into his tenure qualifies as being worse than United fans in my book.

The fact that the Old Trafford faithful still haven't subjected Amorim to the sort of stick that Postecoglou has already gotten from Forest fans is confirmation that the OP and others in this thread were wrong. But of course, if you don't turn on your manager inside the ground then you also get the 'top red' jibe thrown your way. Maybe one day I'll see a sensible suggestion on here about how matchgoing fans should realistically behave during a turbulent period, but I've yet to see it. Considering the long list of issues at the club that need fixing, I've never understood the impulse to jump on our own fans who spend a lot of time and money following United.
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Yup, I see from your other posts in here we probably have the same viewpoint. Our game going fanbase relative to size of club is the most lenient, forgiving and passive in Europe. Agree with @manutddjw i think a lot of it is down to the whole glory hunting vibe and maybe a modern day overcompensation for that.

Just another instance of how un forgiven other fanbases are.
Rangers won a game in the last minute last weekend and then their fans proceeded to loudly chant “Martin get tae feck” ….. At their manager Russell Martin.
 
Nottingham Forest one is strange one and I'm not sure if many similar comparisons about.

Nuno had Forest purring and qualified for European football for the first time in many years a hugely popular figure with their fan base so right away that sacking didn't go down well.

A greek owner bringing in a greek born replacement who had Tottenham in 17th place last season was hardly a suitable change and off to a rotten start now certainly doesn't help matters.
 
Another example of why United fans aren’t the worst in football and aren’t an absolute toxic fanbase

 
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