Old Trafford revamp/could be torn down and rebuilt according to Glazer plans

What’s your preference for Old Trafford?

  • Rebuild

    Votes: 438 49.2%
  • Renovate

    Votes: 436 49.0%
  • Leave it as is

    Votes: 16 1.8%

  • Total voters
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Ema_datsi

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I can see Jack-off Joel and family salivating at the prospect of selling the naming rights. Instead of Old Trafford, we’ll have the Pepto-Bismol Soccer Stadium.

“Glazers owning your club giving you gass?
Pepto-Bismol will help it pass.”
 

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I can see Jack-off Joel and family salivating at the prospect of selling the naming rights. Instead of Old Trafford, we’ll have the Pepto-Bismol Soccer Stadium.

“Glazers owning your club giving you gass?
Pepto-Bismol will help it pass.”

City also sell the naming rights to their stadium. Are they broke and desperate?
 

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I can see Jack-off Joel and family salivating at the prospect of selling the naming rights. Instead of Old Trafford, we’ll have the Pepto-Bismol Soccer Stadium.

“Glazers owning your club giving you gass?
Pepto-Bismol will help it pass.”
Whether we like it or not, selling the naming of OT will happen.

I DESPISE the Glazers, however, they have not sold the namong rights so far, after 17 years. Now, that could be due to a number of reasons, but they haven't done it.

But if we do want to upgrade Old Trafford, and the surrounding land around it, selling the naming rights will make a lot of sense, however much we don't want it to happen.
 

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No! Who's gone and spoiled the symmetry? OK, I'll change it again. We need one more "rebuild". C'mon people!

Edit: Fixed :drool:

Edit: Who's messing with my OCD?

Edit: :lol: ya bastard!
 
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A scene from a non-league club because the stadium is being repainted?

Don't all stadiums get repainted at one point or another?
No, apparently everybody just rebuilds a stadium if it needs repainting.
 

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No, apparently everybody just rebuilds a stadium if it needs repainting.
A right that explains it then. I hate painting myself so I'm going to float that idea the next time my house needs redecorating.
 

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There was $160 million dropped for upgrades beginning in 2016, granted part of the upgrades were due to the then-upcoming Superb Owl. That said, RJS is definitely showing its age having opened in 1998.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomlay...nd-james-stadium-ready-for-super-bowl-lv/amp/

There also was an indoor practice facility finally built across the street at One Buc Place in 2017, something that was badly needed for decades. Gruden’s team used to have to practice in a parking garage during the SB season in 2002.
To be fair though that Owl was Superb.
 

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A scene from a non-league club because the stadium is being repainted?

Don't all stadiums get repainted at one point or another?
Seriously though, I think we've already known for ages that there will be one day when something major has to change at Old Trafford beyong mere repainting. When I saw the video of how the Santiago Bernabeu was being revamped without anything being torn down except the roof, I was both in awe because it's very well done and sad because that should have been in the plans for Old Trafford years ago.
 

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Seriously though, I think we've already known for ages that there will be one day when something major has to change at Old Trafford beyong mere repainting. When I saw the video of how the Santiago Bernabeu was being revamped without anything being torn down except the roof, I was both in awe because it's very well done and sad because that should have been in the plans for Old Trafford years ago.
Nothing happens to OT with the Glazer leaches in charge. WHen is the next PR spin 'consultants appointed' announcement due?
 

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Seriously though, I think we've already known for ages that there will be one day when something major has to change at Old Trafford beyong mere repainting. When I saw the video of how the Santiago Bernabeu was being revamped without anything being torn down except the roof, I was both in awe because it's very well done and sad because that should have been in the plans for Old Trafford years ago.

Yeah the new Bernabeu looks great but how much debt are Real taking on to facilitate it?

We know the Glazers aren't funding shit and United aren't really in a position to take on another half a billion of debt.
 

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Really impressive. Looks even a step above Spurs's stadium (unsure if the Bernabeu boasts a cheese room, though).

How much has that cost?
Por supuesto cabron, la sala de quesos.

Apparently between 800-900 million €. I was dating a girl involved in the renovation from the architect firm's side, I could've asked that, but things didn't end so well :nervous:
 

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Really impressive. Looks even a step above Spurs's stadium (unsure if the Bernabeu boasts a cheese room, though).

How much has that cost?
No cheese room as far as I know so Spurs still a cut above. No one can match them for cheese.

As far as the stadium is concerned, aren't the Glazer's just confused as to why the city of Manchester doesn't give them a new one?. Isn't the standard NFL owner modus operandi to blackmail cities with relocation in order to get public funds? Maybe they just haven't gotten the memo that you cannot use that technique in European football.
 

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No cheese room as far as I know so Spurs still a cut above. No one can match them for cheese.

As far as the stadium is concerned, aren't the Glazer's just confused as to why the city of Manchester doesn't give them a new one?. Isn't the standard NFL owner modus operandi to blackmail cities with relocation in order to get public funds? Maybe they just haven't gotten the memo that you cannot use that technique in European football.
i would fully expect them to have queried that at one point
 

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No cheese room as far as I know so Spurs still a cut above. No one can match them for cheese.

As far as the stadium is concerned, aren't the Glazer's just confused as to why the city of Manchester doesn't give them a new one?. Isn't the standard NFL owner modus operandi to blackmail cities with relocation in order to get public funds? Maybe they just haven't gotten the memo that you cannot use that technique in European football.
Probably best not to ask how City came to play at the Eithiad.
 

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We have so much potential with what we could do. We have so much surrounding land, this "Manchester United village" that Neville talks about would take us above all other clubs.

I believe it will happen. Just need these parasites to sell up.
 

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Manchester United chief executive Richard Arnold has warned the club will be "disciplined" in their plans to improve facilities at Old Trafford.

The club appointed Populous as master planners to assess options for redevelopment of the stadium earlier this year and are continuing to work on potential options.

Speaking on an investors' call after United announced their latest financial results, Arnold said the club were determined to give fans the facilities they deserve, but that they wouldn't overspend in the current financial climate.

"For fans at Old Trafford, we believe they deserve excellent facilities and experiences when attending matches," said Arnold.

"Earlier this year, we appointed master planners to explore options for potential redevelopment of our stadium and the club-owned land which surrounds it. We are at an early stage of a multi-year project and will continue to gather input and feedback from our fans and other stakeholders on these options before making any firm decisions, and we will update the market in due course.

"While remaining committed to long-term investment in the stadium, we will be disciplined in our capital plans, which must be sustainable, and mindful of the macroeconomic pressures and inflationary environment currently impacting the UK and wider global economies."
 

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Manchester United chief executive Richard Arnold has warned the club will be "disciplined" in their plans to improve facilities at Old Trafford.

The club appointed Populous as master planners to assess options for redevelopment of the stadium earlier this year and are continuing to work on potential options.

Speaking on an investors' call after United announced their latest financial results, Arnold said the club were determined to give fans the facilities they deserve, but that they wouldn't overspend in the current financial climate.

"For fans at Old Trafford, we believe they deserve excellent facilities and experiences when attending matches," said Arnold.

"Earlier this year, we appointed master planners to explore options for potential redevelopment of our stadium and the club-owned land which surrounds it. We are at an early stage of a multi-year project and will continue to gather input and feedback from our fans and other stakeholders on these options before making any firm decisions, and we will update the market in due course.

"While remaining committed to long-term investment in the stadium, we will be disciplined in our capital plans, which must be sustainable, and mindful of the macroeconomic pressures and inflationary environment currently impacting the UK and wider global economies."
Basically, Glazers don’t want to spend much. A change of wallpaper to make it look like a new room.
 

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Manchester United chief executive Richard Arnold has warned the club will be "disciplined" in their plans to improve facilities at Old Trafford.

The club appointed Populous as master planners to assess options for redevelopment of the stadium earlier this year and are continuing to work on potential options.

Speaking on an investors' call after United announced their latest financial results, Arnold said the club were determined to give fans the facilities they deserve, but that they wouldn't overspend in the current financial climate.

"For fans at Old Trafford, we believe they deserve excellent facilities and experiences when attending matches," said Arnold.

"Earlier this year, we appointed master planners to explore options for potential redevelopment of our stadium and the club-owned land which surrounds it. We are at an early stage of a multi-year project and will continue to gather input and feedback from our fans and other stakeholders on these options before making any firm decisions, and we will update the market in due course.

"While remaining committed to long-term investment in the stadium, we will be disciplined in our capital plans, which must be sustainable, and mindful of the macroeconomic pressures and inflationary environment currently impacting the UK and wider global economies."
We're not spending on the infrastructure, but we'll keep asking you how we can improve it to sound like we're acting on it.
 

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No cheese room as far as I know so Spurs still a cut above. No one can match them for cheese.

As far as the stadium is concerned, aren't the Glazer's just confused as to why the city of Manchester doesn't give them a new one?. Isn't the standard NFL owner modus operandi to blackmail cities with relocation in order to get public funds? Maybe they just haven't gotten the memo that you cannot use that technique in European football.
I heard theres a taco room though. My aunties neighbours son is dating a girl that lives next to the butcher, that knows the butcher who supplies the meat.
 

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Basically, Glazers don’t want to spend much. A change of wallpaper to make it look like a new room.
Could the club actually afford a £350-500m redevelopment of Old Trafford right now though?

Because anyone waiting on the Glazers paying for it will be waiting a long time.
 

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Could the club actually afford a £350-500m redevelopment of Old Trafford right now though?

Because anyone waiting on the Glazers paying for it will be waiting a long time.
I don't think they have that much left to spend at all. I think they want an external investment to come in and to pay them a certain amount on money and get a certain amount of share of the club in which they will hopefully spend on the club. Whether that will happen or not remains to be seen.
 

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Could the club actually afford a £350-500m redevelopment of Old Trafford right now though?

Because anyone waiting on the Glazers paying for it will be waiting a long time.
Well obviously there would have to be an investment appraisal.
But to me, the basic question is about how the owners see Manchester United going forward.
Do they want their asset to stagnate and fall further away from the elite clubs in Europe.
Or do they want their asset to remain competitive both on and off the field.

Because one thing is absolutely certain. OT will continue to deteriorate and in the end cost significantly more to maintain.
 

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Well obviously there would have to be an investment appraisal.
But to me, the basic question is about how the owners see Manchester United going forward.
Do they want their asset to stagnate and fall further away from the elite clubs in Europe.
Or do they want their asset to remain competitive both on and off the field.

Because one thing is absolutely certain. OT will continue to deteriorate and in the end cost significantly more to maintain.
I don't spend too much time speculating on the Glazers motivations towards Manchester United because by this stage I think we can all safely assume what their motivations are and what they want.

They want their yearly dividends and they want lump sums of cash every few years through share sales while spending as little as possible.

So once we accept that then we know that significant redevelopment of OT isn't likely with them in charge.
 
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