I remember us being midtable at a very early point in the season Under Jose, the exact dates and points situation I'm unclear on.We were on 9 points after 5 games last season. 8 this season. Cant remember the league positions and not trying to be pedantic but I'm sure that was the case.
They drew 2-2 at home against a newly promoted side last week at home.Those who are claiming Ole needs more time, did Lampard need more time to implement the attacking patterns? He also had a transfer ban!
ThisOle's had one transfer window to make improvements to the squad. During which he has cleared out a tonne of deadwood and brought AWB, James and Maguire in - 3 of our best performers so far this season.
Assuming the 3 new signings continue to perform well and develop further, and there is no reason to believe otherwise, he would be our most successful manager in the transfer market post-Fergie. Does he not deserve credit for that?
If you just want to ignore everything and just look at the results, you are welcome to do it. They are not having problems in scoring goals, its the defence. Something we sorted out this window.They drew 2-2 at home against a newly promoted side last week at home.
We tonked them 4-0 in the opener.
FFS. Get some perspective.
Its pretty much what Sarri did but faster not sure what patterns he's implemented.Those who are claiming Ole needs more time, did Lampard need more time to implement the attacking patterns? He also had a transfer ban!
Weird to use them as an ideal to look up to when they have their own issues.If you just want to ignore everything and just look at the results, you are welcome to do it. They are not having problems in scoring goals, its the defence. Something we sorted out this window.
90% of our fanbase are fairweather fans who only experienced the Ferguson era. They think we have a divine right to win the PL and cant fathom a United that is not #1. The jury is still very much out on Ole, but demanding blood after FIVE fecking games considering our circumstances is pathetic.He hasn't even had a year here.
Whats wrong with "supporters" nowadays?
That's what we have been saying for past 4 games but didn't stop anyone from moaning that we didn't win them all.If you just want to ignore everything and just look at the results, you are welcome to do it. They are not having problems in scoring goals, its the defence. Something we sorted out this window.
I am not using them as an ideal. Its the excuses that Ole defenders are throwing up. More time, more windows.. It didn't take Sarri and Emery time in implementing a style and its not taking Lampard much time too. Ole did well initially but has changed it completely albeit for worse performances.Weird to use them as an ideal to look up to when they have their own issues.
Because some get a kick out of United losing in the hope Solskjær will be gone soon.The amount of fans on here seemingly upset with a United win today... you love to see it.
So, how many transfers does a manager need to start implementing a philosophy? Can this particular manager only work with a specific group of 25 players?Ole's had one transfer window to make improvements to the squad. During which he has cleared out a tonne of deadwood and brought AWB, James and Maguire in - 3 of our best performers so far this season.
Assuming the 3 new signings continue to perform well and develop further, and there is no reason to believe otherwise, he would be our most successful manager in the transfer market post-Fergie. Does he not deserve credit for that?
That's a good point. Klopp needed two years to make Liverpool competitive again too.90% of our fanbase are fairweather fans who only experienced the Ferguson era. They think we have a divine right to win the PL and cant fathom a United that is not #1. The jury is still very much out on Ole, but demanding blood after FIVE fecking games considering our circumstances is pathetic.
Neville was in the Norwegian studio today and he spoke a lot of sense. We need at least 4 windows to make this squad competitive again. Guardiola needed that many windows to win the league and the squad he took over was 3x better than this one at least. From the players we fielded today only DDG, AWB and maybe Maguire would make it into a Ferguson team. The rest are not even bench quality.
Players like Wes Brown, O'Shea, Fletcher and Park could walk into this team and improve us immensely.
We are in a massive rebuild and wont compete for silverware in a while. Those are the facts
Yeah and he acknowledges that in his post match interviewThe football needs to improve.
Fair enough and as I said, was not trying to go against your narrative completely. Just think it took a while longer before it really went pear shaped with Jose. We certainly needed the 3 points today as plenty more tougher games ahead. Im still 50/50 on whether we will be much better though come December this year as we were when Jose got the boot. The three signings may look good but I fear for our squad depth and for Ole over these next few months.I remember us being midtable at a very early point in the season Under Jose, the exact dates and points situation I'm unclear on.
It's worth pointing out that we have been a little unfortunate this season. We could have come away with victories against Wolves, Southampton and Palace so far, many would argue we should have considering the missed penalties and chances that went begging.
Heard that even under Fergie when we had Ronaldo and co.The football needs to improve.
Different for individual I guess?So, how many transfers does a manager need to start implementing a philosophy? Can this particular manager only work with a specific group of 25 players?
Well, the players are certainly pressing more than they were under Jose and LVG. They look a lot more defensively solid as a unit too. Attacking-wise not so much, at least today, but we were without Martial, Pogba and Shaw this afternoon, each of which is integral to our attack.So, how many transfers does a manager need to start implementing a philosophy? Can this particular manager only work with a specific group of 25 players?
I believe we will see them bled in a little bit more in the cup matches. Thats the hope at least.After five PL games:
Greenwood: 47min
Chong: 20min
Gomes: 0min
Garner: 0min
Even accepting that young players need time to bed in and someone like Garner was never likely to feature much if at all, it's still more conservative than I was expecting.
Yeah, squad depth is most definitely a worry. The midfield area looks especially weak, forward options are none too exciting either.Fair enough and as I said, was not trying to go against your narrative completely. Just think it took a while longer before it really went pair shaped with Jose. We certainly needed the 3 points today as plenty more tougher games ahead. Im still 50/50 on whether we will be much better though come December this year as we were when Jose got the boot. The three signings may look good but I fear for our squad depth and for Ole over these next few months.
We beat Chelsea 4-0Those who are claiming Ole needs more time, did Lampard need more time to implement the attacking patterns? He also had a transfer ban!
I’d expect him to start against Astana, if not I give up.Gomes will be off at the end of the season and who can blame him. Cant even get a look in when Linzy and Martial are injured.
That post is the modern playstation generation all over.I am not using them as an ideal. Its the excuses that Ole defenders are throwing up. More time, more windows.. It didn't take Sarri and Emery time in implementing a style and its not taking Lampard much time too. Ole did well initially but has changed it completely albeit for worse performances.
Yep, I will give up as well.I’d expect him to start against Astana, if not I give up.
Preach. Neville was talking a ton of sense about the mercenaries being cleared out, and say what you want about the players out there, they put the effort in and showed desire. Ole’s walking a tight-rope, but is doing so very well, I reckon.90% of our fanbase are fairweather fans who only experienced the Ferguson era. They think we have a divine right to win the PL and cant fathom a United that is not #1. The jury is still very much out on Ole, but demanding blood after FIVE fecking games considering our circumstances is pathetic.
Neville was in the Norwegian studio today and he spoke a lot of sense. We need at least 4 windows to make this squad competitive again. Guardiola needed that many windows to win the league and the squad he took over was 3x better than this one at least. From the players we fielded today only DDG, AWB and maybe Maguire would make it into a Ferguson team. The rest are not even bench quality.
Players like Wes Brown, O'Shea, Fletcher and Park could walk into this team and improve us immensely.
We are in a massive rebuild and wont compete for silverware in a while. Those are the facts
That post is the modern playstation generation all over.
Had the Internet been about I Would have loved to see your posts between 1968 and 1992
I always back Ole but this kind of post is ridiculousIt seems Ole can't win anything...
Play young - Why don't he play old players?
Play old - Why don't he play young players?
Win game - Why don't he win with 78-0?
Playing Fred - Why don't he play Messi and Ronaldo?
Saying this - Why don't he say that?
Saying that - Why don't he say this?
Haters gona hate.
They have a load of injuries as well.Norwich beating City 3-1 and we can't beat trash like Soton, Wolves and Palace until we have at least 17 transfer windows.
City losing to trash like Norwich despite having multiple transfer windows and hundreds of millions spent.Norwich beating City 3-1 and we can't beat trash like Soton, Wolves and Palace until we have at least 17 transfer windows.