Ole Gunnar Solskjær | Permanent manager

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  1. Oct 9, 2019

    Escobar Poster originally known as Michel04

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    There are no excuses for Ole. None. Despite Ed and the board being shit, he has been really poor, probably the worst since Fergie. And that is all on him
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    BlueHaze Full Member

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    The man is still getting standing ovations from some at Shitefield ffs give me a break. He hates us just as much as we hate that fat bastard and thats that..
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    BlueHaze Full Member

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    Bunch of clowns im telling ya, can't even believe what i'm reading. :lol::lol::lol:
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    croadyman New Member

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    I do feel like a tactically sound manager would get more out of this team. Similar to what we saw when Pep finished 3rd in his first season and Klopp 8th in his. Yes I appreciate they didn't win the league but at least you could see a style of play.
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    Acheron Full Member

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    Why are people talking about Benitez??? I'm not even a United fan but wow... you must be desperate.
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    Madzik_92 New Member

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    According to Henry Winter, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer’s job as Manchester United manager is safe even if they suffer a bad defeat by Liverpool next week. :(
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    Shimo Full Member

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    Go back to Ole's words during our winning run, how do we do once we start losing or facing adversity. How do we do when we go down a goal? Take an objective view of how he has handled it and it has been amateurist at best.

    As a manager, watching games when things are not going right on the pitch, how often have we seen him adjust the team tactically or through smart subs to really affect the game? Almost never and the latter part of last season, it happened, we should have seen signs but, there weren't. We were told he needed a preseason and fitter players to sort it out. That hasn't worked out very well.

    As a manager, who has had ample time to assess those available to him, know their strengths and weaknesses, you'd think he'd be prepared in the eventuality of injuries/suspensions. What is his approach based on the squad he has available? Stick to the same formation as though he had everyone available. Play players out of position like playing a 17 year old Striker on the wing while a 21 year old winger gets played as a striker and playing the likes of Mata and Gomes together well because they are the closest he has available to stick to that one formation he knows.

    Even the most basic of managers would know that if you don't have the personnel to play your favored approach, you adjust based on what you have. Only if you are tactically inept, do you then just try random players in positions / roles they don't really excel at and hope for a performance out of them.

    He had Young, Dalot as fullbacks, and only has James and Rashford as real forwards as Greenwood as much as he talks him up, does't rate him as a forward and in midfield he has the options of McTominay, Fred and Matic, none who are great creators from deep, in the first 2 he at least has 2 hard working mobile players. So how about fielding a 3-5-2. Allowing Rashford who is not really great as a lone #9 to have a partner in James who can also get in behind, thus not having 2 CBs at all time watching him and they'd both have someone to play off of as well rather than being totally isolated all game. In Dalot and Young, you do have 2 players that can provide width and in Tuanzebe, Maguire and Rojo (or Lindelof when he was fit) he had defenders that he could count on to make a pass out of the back and still be good defensively and in McTominay and Fred players that could get up in support of the forwards as they push up.

    It doesn't even have to be a 3-5-2, it could be a 4-3-3, 4-5-1, 4-4-2 Diamond or even just old traditional 4-4-2. Point is he could adjust and not use the excuse oh I have injuries and players that are performing shit who need their heads sorting out so I can play just one way. He needs his head sorting out to know that whatever positives he is seeing are a figment of his imagination.
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    mariachi-19 Full Member

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    How the feck is somebody not losing their job a reason to be sad?

    feck me some of you people need to get a real fecking good dose of reality. First somewant saudi's and next people are going to be happy our manager is getting sacked. What the feck is wrong with you people.
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    E-mal Full Member

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    Perhaps it is you that need to get down from your high horse, holier than thou place.
    It is clearly obvious he is incompetent, what do you expect us to wish of someone who is incompetent?
    It is just a matter of time, he is not good enough! The problem is how much irreversible damage will he be allowed to wreck before he is relieved of his role?
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    mariachi-19 Full Member

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    Its not a fecking high horse you muppet. Its basic morality and ethics as a human being.
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    redshaw Full Member

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    I can see the board looking at Norwich and Bournemouth. A draw or loss would be expected against Pool.
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    shahzy New Member

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    Don’t think you have to worry too much about that mate. The pay off he will get will have him set for doing nothing and still living comfortably for the next 5-10 years.

    what you do need to worry about as a fan is how fecking shit we are
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    Revaulx Full Member

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    Glad it’s not just me that sees this.

    Neville, the red tops and the top reds will all love it. It’s the only way for Ed to be able to get rid of Ole without losing face.
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    Madzik_92 New Member

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    Yeah he's the one don't see the problem
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    Marcus Full Member

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    I think Ole is too nice a guy for this job. Needs to be able to rule with an iron fist. Otherwise the players will just think they know better and dismiss his tactics and strategies. Things like the penalty fiasco do nothing to dispel that notion. A united front is better than calling out players and speaking the truth. If he is presenting a united front in public and laying down the law in the dressing room I would be fine. Somehow I doubt he has the players' respect and is probably too polite to ruffle feathers.
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    Micky Targaryen Full Member

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    You have around 15k posts on here and I can't believe what you just posted. If you can't comprehend why most of us Manchester United fans want our current manager to be sacked for the better good of our beloved club, you really don't belong on a football forum.
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    Enigma_87 You know who

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    The fat waiter is twice the manager Ole is so he will be an improvement none the less.
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    pocco loco

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    Come on, it's not as if he'd have to go sign on the dole. We're talking about multi millionaires here. Ole is a legend but United is bigger than Ole and should be the main concern for all of us.
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    Alabaster Codify7 Full Member

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    Yeah it would be yet another clever play from Woodward that will guarantee him and the Glazers another cheap couple of transfer windows.
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    Wolff New Member

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    You saw exactly the same with both Klopp and Pep. They stuck with their principles until the players got it right, and then kept buying players into those principles. Exactly the same, and same type of fans was just as kne jerk then.
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    Robbie Boy Full Member

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    Enigma_87 You know who

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    He will get millions in severance package. For a year service he will be paid more than what he has gained so far 10 years in management. It's not like he will be homeless after this.
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    AlwaysRed66 Full Member

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    I would lose the will to watch football with him in charge. His negative tactics were awful at Newcastle who seem gluttons for punishment, but Man Utd fans are not as stupid surely. Allegri, Benitez, Conte, Simeone, I cannot believe some of the names mentioned here. Who wants to be bored to death. Haven't we suffered enough these last seven years.
  24. Oct 10, 2019

    Giggsyking Full Member

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    You feel sorry for someone who will get paid millions if sacked because he so bad in his job, but not the fans who support the team?
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    Untd55 Full Member

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    That is what happens when you pick the lowest of the low. Pretty much anything is an improvement. You could scrape the bottom of the barrel and still end up with a better manager than Solskjaer.
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    TheRedDevil2019 New Member

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    What makes it worse, is that Ole's a fecking club legend. Some could at least show the guy some loyalty FFS, giving him the time needed to have this clearout. Clearly the bulk of this team is not good enough and mentally should be nowhere near the club, every time they face a grilling from the manager they sulk and play to get him sacked.

    The fact we have some poster's treating Ole's sacking like Xmas has come early is a sad incitement towards genuine fans. (Who would never bask in the firing of a legend desperate to return the club to former glories).
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    Rhyme Animal Modmins said "freeze" and I got numb

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    It's incredible that he's still even in a job now...

    The board and Woodward are getting what they deserve here, feck em.
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    Roboc7 Full Member

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    How can anyone compare Ole to Klopp and Pep, they are top class coaches with a clear style of play and proven quality. Ole isn’t, never has been and probably isn’t going to transform into one. Ole’s tactics and plan are very outdated and basic, not his fault it’s just what he has probably done all his career at a different level.

    It’s not knee jerk anymore it’s nearly half a season of being relegation candidates, pretty much any Premier League manager with that kind of record is getting the sack.
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    Sterling Archer Full Member

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    Worth noting how critical we were of Jose for feeling like he didn't do the same. At least we knew he was a defense dark arts master.

    Ole and his crew have come in flaunting Uniteds attacking heritage. You'd think they'd focus on rejuvenating it
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    SAFMUTD Full Member

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    Is he still the manager? :(
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    House Mkhitaryan New Member

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    How can anyone think this guy is good enough to turn it around? And if we all agree he will not turn it around, why wait to sack him?
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    Jackal New Member

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    The attack has gotten worse under them.

    We are struggling to score against world class teams like Rochdale, AZ Alkmaar and Newcastle.
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    Russky14 New Member

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    As I stated yesterday in the accounts (someone posted the link), a business talks about all various risks FOREX, hedging business outlook. These are generic health warnings to any business but you can read through a few paragraphs where Woody talks about "competiveness of other clubs", "if we do not achieve UCL or EL qualification and/or downturn in performance of the mens 1st team". Along with a forecasted revenue reduction for this current Fyr, then putting all thee together Woody & Glazers are cutting their cloth. The club on this path will effectively be in this mire for years with others over taking them in terms of money generation due to lack of success and hence, commercials taking a hit.

    There is only one way out & that is the Glazers committing sheds loads of money by converting & offloading their class B voting shares on market. But will the greedy chuffers do this, with Woody at the helm. People were dissing Merson for his 700m required. Well amazingly thats the number I came up with earlier in the week and remember the football transfer value economics was blown out of the water by PSG re Neymar (Scouserpool got a double whammy of getting their front 3 prior to this and then selling Countinho for double bubble after it and this is how they got Van Dyk & the goalie chuffin lucky beggars!) The club requires c10 to 12 players, a mixture of 1st teams squad players and youngsters over 3 windows + a DoF. Do this & the mire will only last 4 years max.

    However, what chance is there that the latter will happen re investment.
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    ifightdragons New Member

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    You're not one for sound arguments. Shame history is lost on you too.
    Everyone should obviously recruit from wherever necessary. With your attitude, Sir Matt Busby would have been unwelcome at the club, and as a result we would not have the legacy we have today.

    Shitefield? Grow up. You can dislike Liverpool without being an unstable 7 year old.
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    amolbhatia50k Sneaky bum time

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    Not surprised. Ole4lyf.
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    Random Task Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018

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    Absolutely.

    Unless they happen to be ex-Liverpool superheroes such as Prophet Rafa The Fat, in which case all bets are off.
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    TsuWave Full Member

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    Being so bad at your job and still keeping it must be the dream.
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    amolbhatia50k Sneaky bum time

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    It's sad that Ole isn't working out, but a manager doing a terrible job being let go is a positive step for the club - unless as before it is followed by a poor appointment.

    And a dose of reality? More real than Ole's awful tenure as our permanent manager?
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    Shark @NotShark

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    Also reports that we could be embarrassed at home to Liverpool and his job is still safe. We couldn’t be supporting a more grim club, absolutely no positives at the moment.
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    Tom Van Persie No relation

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    Blind faith. That's all it is.