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This club is an absolute joke. Do they expect Pochettino to be clubless forever then? I really can't be arsed with it, so damn amateur. Also Gareth ******* Southgate? The club hopefully liquidates at the point of hiring him if it happens
For The fact that Nagelsmann name even popped up, we can tell it all made up.

1- He's not leaving Leipzig or Germany anytimesoon 2- our board isn't that smart.
 

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I don't think any of the papers even have the slightest clue of what's going on. The board are also stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Best thing that can happen for the club at this point IMHO is that we agree a deal for bruno and he proves to be better than mata, lingard and Andreas in the no. 10 role and we crash out of the cups (FA and carbaro
 

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Its hard not to feel upset and emotional after that performance - I get it. Its a bad time to be a Manchester United fan. As I've said before time and again though, one result doesn't change my belief that they are doing what needs to be done to bring this club back to its level. I'm frustrated at the board for the years of poor decision making that have caused us to reach the stage where we need to do such a drastic squad overhaul, but it is what it is. Suck it up and move on. Its only football. You are all desperate for change, and I understand that, but you are all directing your anger at the wrong person.
He is one of the biggest problems we have, he should go because he is very very bad at his job. By directing our anger at the manager we can change the him if we keep putting pressure. The other problems we cant solve by protesting no matter what we do or no matter how long we do that, the Glazers and their loyal servant will not leave. Period. Any discussions including removing the Glazers or Ed I find silly and unrealistic. What fans can actually affect is the manager position and the players.
 

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I’m gonna keep posting these articles until someone actually reads them, criticising the guy for smiling, how low can we go?

FEAR FACTOR Ashley Young: Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is no baby-faced assassin, he commands respect by ‘losing it’ like legendary Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/talk...jaer-manchester-united-sir-alex-ferguson/amp/

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer labels Manchester United players a 'joke' after Southampton draw



https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....draw_sto7442148/story-amp.shtml?client=safari
How low can we go? Do you know anything about football? Are you just sticking to this one point that no one believes while the rest of the United family spends their hard earned cash worshipping their club for these performances? He is useless mate so you carry on sticking to posting this rubbish and have a hand in killing our club.

He ain’t good enough the smile is just an insult to some of us fans and his comment about medieval times is an insult to our history which was built on and by gritty Scots, who made us who we are, the non smiling types who respected the fans enough to not walk out after disgusting performances with smiles.

Do you even get that or are you going to come back with the same articles. This is not working, he is not good enough. His comment was an insult. HE HAS TO GO.
 

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Regarding potential criticisms against the board or Woodward from our manager
@BR7 and @Caliban.


What you suggest is exactly what the owners and Woodward wants to happen. Silence and a lame manager publicly saying exactly what they wants to hear. Status Quo. Nothing will change.

Is that what we all want? Another season to write off. Another step to mediocrity.

At the moment (until he’s fired) Ole is in a unique position to deliver sensible and rational criticism against the board (owners) and his boss (Ed) without facing any notable consequences. Why?

He will get sacked regardless of criticism or not if he don’t deliver CL qualification. When the season ends his time in the lime light is off. It’s now (before the seasons ends) or never.

He can publicly ask rhetorically in a subtle way why the club doesn’t back him when we have so much injuries. He can inform media and us supporters that the future regarding Pogba is outside his pay grade. He can give media and us a update on last summers transfer dealing. Lukaku, Sanchez, Herrera, FellainI. Why we didn’t buy any replacements. All this is possible without being disrespectful against his employe’s.

He has nothing to lose. He will receive a hefty payoff so financially he’s secured.A win and win situation. Nobody and that includes supporters, ex players, pundits and the whole football nation would put any criticism against him if he stood up for himself. He would be regarded as a hero among the United nation. The owners and Woodward would face huge criticism and outrage anger from media and supporters if they took any unfair action against Ole because of this. I would say he would be almost untouchable if he took this stance and played his cards wisely. Transparency is often a very powerful tool in situations like this.

Finally. Woodward should be grateful that it’s only rude songs against him. His involvement in the take over and everything that follows is worthy much much more. He sold his soul in order to get his millions and now it’s pay back time from those who really love this club. If I was him I would sell his house, retire from his position and move far far away from Manchester. Almost seven years in charge and responsible for one of the worst slaughtering of a football club in modern history.

To all Norwegian’s. Do you want Ole to leave United on a high of with his tail between his legs? Start to talk Ole! You have nothin

Hey 7


If Ole did come out and shot at the board, future potential employers will take that into account and it could cost him jobs in the future.

I think the thought that Ole loves the club needs to be challenged and a couple of other posters have done so recently. Looking at how he got the job, his CV was nowhere near good enough and if he loved United he wouldn't have taken the job in the first place. The fact that with his record he thought he was good enough for the United job was either moronic, arrogant or a combination of both.

Combine that what he already knew about the Glazers, Woodward and what had happened to the previous managers, this adds to the question, does Ole really love United? He must have known he was used by the Glazers to appease the fans as he was a former playing legend or his arrogance got the better of him and he didn't see it... but he was basically a mouth piece for the glazers and he took the job either knowing this or he was too arrogant to see it. No other top 6 prem club would have had him near the interview stage let alone give him the job.
 

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Can someone do a chart about Klopp's average ppg over time and also Ole's?
Pretty sure Klopp's was always on an upward trend while Ole's is downward.
Klopp was a world class manager with multiple league and cup titles in a top 5 league as well as a CL final under his belt by the time he got to Liverpool. He also was at the forefront of a style of play, that was changing the football landscape, gengenpressing, much like Pep with tiki-taka or whatever before him.

Ole is just so shameless.
 

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He’s so shameless
From his point of view, he is building something and with right kind of signings over the transfer window, he will be able to build a good team.
There is nothing shameless about being defiant in front of press.

You really didn't expect him to say he hasn't a feckin clue what to do.

It is a different thing if Glazers/Woodward would invest or give him what he wants. Or just fire him eventually.
 

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I don't think any of the papers even have the slightest clue of what's going on. The board are also stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Best thing that can happen for the club at this point IMHO is that we agree a deal for bruno and he proves to be better than mata, lingard and Andreas in the no. 10 role and we crash out of the cups (FA and carbaro
Exactly! Remember that the papers had no idea that Ole was going to be appointed interim manager after Mourinho was sacked. It was the Norwegian Prime Minister who first broke the news ffs!
 

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From his point of view, he is building something and with right kind of signings over the transfer window, he will be able to build a good team.
There is nothing shameless about being defiant in front of press.

You really didn't expect him to say he hasn't a feckin clue what to do.

It is a different thing if Glazers/Woodward would invest or give him what he wants. Or just fire him eventually.
Klopp is a generational talent. Is Ole a lunatic or something?

Does he not understand why Klopp was afforded time?

Incompetent and shameless, what a combo
 

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Nonchalantly scoring the winner...
It's cretinous. The whole situation.

Why mention Klopp...? Like, why make us think of Klopp in comparison to himself?

It's like a guy with a 1 inch cock, who's also impotent saying, "hey look at that pornstar with an 8inch hard on - he also once had a 1 inch cock".

Ole should walk away from this and show some class, this is insulting to Utd's fanbase on literally every level.
 

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Honestly don’t get the hate that Ed receives. He’s given money, managers spent it. He doesn’t choose who to sign, each manager gives a list and Ed tries to get the deal.

Has he fecked up on things? He’ll yeah, sacking LVG after the FA cup, thinking star players viewed United the same way that noodle brands do, giving Ole the job permanently etc , but to be blamed for everything that’s wrong at the club is a stretch.

Also the death chants are sickening. Just dumb persons way of doing to Ed what the pundits do to Pogba. Biggest fear is that all it takes is one nutter. By all means criticise the guy for being a shit ceo but separate the person from the role and bring the person into it.
 

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He be here to end of season and he deserves a chance.


Everybody up in arms crying wanting him replaced, moaning that the board are so slow to react, are the same people who are first to moan about the shambles that is woodward and the board.

If he is sacked we be back here in not even a years time having this same Convo about the new manager, it's no magic wand.

We are currently trying to rectify our shambolic transfer policy over a 7 year period, ridding the squad of the overpriced players who dont want, and the bad influences in the dress room and trying to replace with a different sort of set up. Time is what we need.


If Down the line Ole ends up having to move on I'm certain he leave the squad in a far better place for the next manager, especially with the youth being blooded in.



Injuries have really hurt us at the moment. I blame board for the current shambles in midfield.
 

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He be here to end of season and he deserves a chance.


Everybody up in arms crying wanting him replaced, moaning that the board are so slow to react, are the same people who are first to moan about the shambles that is woodward and the board.

If he is sacked we be back here in not even a years time having this same Convo about the new manager, it's no magic wand.

We are currently trying to rectify our shambolic transfer policy over a 7 year period, ridding the squad of the overpriced players who dont want, and the bad influences in the dress room and trying to replace with a different sort of set up. Time is what we need.


If Down the line Ole ends up having to move on I'm certain he leave the squad in a far better place for the next manager, especially with the youth being blooded in.



Injuries have really hurt us at the moment. I blame board for the current shambles in midfield.
Are we? Last I heard Ole handed Jones and Mata new contracts. New one for Bailly too now.
 

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Its a song At a football match. It’s like throwing rotten tomatoes at a bad act on stage, it’s meaningless, it’s not a real threat. It’s just theatre for me!
Next you’re gonna tell me that United fans don’t really want to build a bonfire consisting of Liverpool and City fans.
 
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If Down the line Ole ends up having to move on I'm certain he leave the squad in a far better place for the next manager, especially with the youth being blooded in.
LVG bled tonnes of youth.

If Ole takes us so far down, we might not even be able to attract one of the top guy to manage us, it'll be a hard enough task now to convince Poch I'd imagine.

And if you think any of our top targets like Sancho are choosing United over other interested parties like Chelsea in his case, with Ole at the wheel and this season behind us, you are living in cloud cuckoo land.

We'll be shopping in that section of the market where clubs can demand the World for players who aren't even that special because they know we're desperate.
 

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We all know the glazers and Woodward are seriously inept but so is Ole. He isn’t ready for this job. So wanting all three out is the only answer not just glazers and Woodward. No more excuses for ole. A different manager can do better with this squad it’s nonsense saying they can’t absolute rubbish. Look around the league table and see what the other managers are doing with the rubbish they’ve got and are still right there with us. Their squads are worst than ours.
 

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Are we? Last I heard Ole handed Jones and Mata new contracts. New one for Bailly too now.

I must have missed all the other players we have gutted.


Mata we certainly cant sell at moment, jones would have rid and bailly no problem renewing at the moment as he still an asset. Sounds funny saying that
 

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It's cretinous. The whole situation.

Why mention Klopp...? Like, why make us think of Klopp in comparison to himself?

It's like a guy with a 1 inch cock, who's also impotent saying, "hey look at that pornstar with an 8inch hard on - he also once had a 1 inch cock".

Ole should walk away from this and show some class, this is insulting to Utd's fanbase on literally every level.
Asking the wrong person, this guy is a Glazer and Ed sucker, he would sacrifice the entire club if that mean he stay in his position. My trust in him is zero.
 

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Like always it is not all black or white.

Pride, passion, love for the club... All the things he gets mocked out. They count, you know. You actually put your job in front of everything else. And I really believe he does that, so all of you with a cnut, Molde manager, out of his depth and so on are pretty much wrong. I mean, the man set up a better counter attack then Jose ever did. Which is pretty damning on Jose, but never mind. He also has players 100% behind him with his best player out of it for pretty much all season so far.

His structure, coaching and overall direction leaves a lot of question and am pretty sure that he is not the one to take us further in terms of an elite club. So, I hope board has a plan B in place already. I also hope they have another manager in mind as I think he can't turn us in force (hopefully wrong).

But, all the hysteria and paranoia are unwarranted. He will not set us years back. That much is clear.
I agree with this, my main criticism of Ole is we have no defined way of playing outside of counter attacking football.

We don’t commit to the press, we look devoid of ideas in the final third when teams sit back and basically rely on Rashford for a bit of magic, this is what worries me.

While I appreciate the squad is bare and some of the players aren’t available we don’t have many patterns of play etc.

That is my criticism, that and his flip flopping of stances to the media, but that’s to be expected.
 

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I would not read too much into the press not reporting that he's getting the sack. I followed Moyes time at Utd (lol) fairly closely and before he was sacked there was ZERO in the press about him getting the boot. Then we beat you at Goodison and next day he was gone.
 

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I would not read too much into the press not reporting that he's getting the sack. I followed Moyes time at Utd (lol) fairly closely and before he was sacked there was ZERO in the press about him getting the boot. Then we beat you at Goodison and next day he was gone.
A big difference back then is that we had senior influential players that Moyes had lost and Woodward would listen to.

Solskjaer hasn't lost these players, they just aren't that good. I'm sure Woodward will have advisors telling him as much.
 

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I would not read too much into the press not reporting that he's getting the sack. I followed Moyes time at Utd (lol) fairly closely and before he was sacked there was ZERO in the press about him getting the boot. Then we beat you at Goodison and next day he was gone.
Genuinely think they don't want to sack him till summer and maybe they shouldnt. Problem is he can't seem to keep the fans at bay till then. Fans aren't even falling for false dawns anymore. If the cumulative frustration is this high in January I can't imagine what it will look like by April
 

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Klopp did it in 4 years. You are not fecking Yurgen Klopp, you are a mediocre manager from the norwegian league. Klopp reached 2 finals in his first few months and in his first full season he reached 4th with 76 points.
 

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My only explanation Ole is coming with this 4 years rebuild thing is that he is a fraud and wants to stay as long as possible. He himself know that. But if the club gets him what he want in 2 windows, he will get disposed and everybody will know he is clueless. Sell this shitty 4 year house without a roof thing to the club (the board like that they don't have to pay much) and hopefully some fans will be naive enough to be on board.
 

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Its a song At a football match. It’s like throwing rotten tomatoes at a bad act on stage, it’s meaningless, it’s not a real threat. It’s just theatre for me!
Exactly. Like fans actually thought Vidic would murder someone. Plus it's Woodward so, you know, feck him
 

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I think Ole is just the manager that Glazers and Woodward want. No spine, won't criticize them, will string him along with transfers and Ole won't complain, there Happy if he gets top four every year and into the Champions league and even less spending then. He's just too nice and I couldn't take him seriously as a manager, he just doesn't have the right attitude or feel about him.

Still playing his beloved 4-2-3-1 even with all his injuries and just can't adjust or have a 2nd plan except shut up shop with three central defenders.

I still don't think he realizes that if you setup the same every game with the same tactics teams will figure you out.

Its just shocking and pathetic how bad of a manger he is but I do like him as a person as does every Man Utd fan.

Completely and utterly out of his depth.
 

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We all know the glazers and Woodward are seriously inept but so is Ole. He isn’t ready for this job. So wanting all three out is the only answer not just glazers and Woodward. No more excuses for ole. A different manager can do better with this squad it’s nonsense saying they can’t absolute rubbish. Look around the league table and see what the other managers are doing with the rubbish they’ve got and are still right there with us. Their squads are worst than ours.
So true. Rodgers and Pearson aren't doing too badly
 
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No more excuses for ole. A different manager can do better with this squad it’s nonsense saying they can’t absolute rubbish. Look around the league table and see what the other managers are doing with the rubbish they’ve got and are still right there with us. Their squads are worst than ours.
Steve Bruce has one of the shittest squads I’ve ever seen assembled and he’s just 4 points behind us, and only won 1 game less.
Same goes for Burnley but they’ve actually won as many as us :lol:
 

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Steve Bruce has one of the shittest squads I’ve ever seen assembled and he’s just 4 points behind us, and only won 1 game less.
Same goes for Burnley but they’ve actually won as many as us :lol:
Steve Bruce got a great squad. The Longstaff brothers are worth 100 million when we buy them as a pair.
Burnley got the likes of Wood and Barnes up front. That is two strikers and we got only 1 so by simple math they are better.
West Ham got a born winner in Moyes around and Ole is ahead of him even though he got less points than Moyes since Moyes took over. That shows that Ole built up great foundations by starting the season well enough.
Bournemouth got guys like Solanke, Billing and Ake in that side. Not many can stop them. They are also in safe hands with captain Cook leading them on.
Sheffield got a squad filled with championship promotion players with massive potential having done so well in that league.
Same with Norwich and Villa who got top 3 in that league too. Villa who won the playoff shows that they got great menality to get wins when theu need them.
Norwich also got a championship golden boot winner in Pukki.

For Ole to be ahead of these sides proves that he is a world class manager.
Had he actually spent some decent money in order to get his own squad he would be top no doubt.
 
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