Lingard failed at everything as usual and the only thing Shaw did was set a counter attack for them after one of his half-arsed terrible crosses. They contributed nothing for the 2nd.
We have Greenwood and a couple of promising young midfielders. Why insist on giving minutes to a 27-year-old failure that gives 1/10 performances on a consistent basis?
I dont think Lingard is good enough for us but I find it laughable how anyone can criticise Ole's subs last night given the end result.
One of the post that should be pinned on this thread.
Told Lingard we were playing Norwich
We sit at 5th, and have 31 fecking points after 20 games. I say you can keep your politeness to yourself and stop being deluded with that “2nd in the form table” crap. We just played fecking Burnley and looked like the same hot and cold inconsistent average mid table team we have been all season.
We can only play counter attacking football when it's City. It's only fecking Burnley when it's Burnley. Poor old Ole can't buy a positive comment from some of ye. That was a tricky away game dispatched in a very controlled way. Give yourself a break. Try to enjoy the good days and save the bile for the inevitable blips.
Take Lingard out of the squad permanently, he had all the chances in the world and doesn't deserve to play here. Give the youngsters his minutes to see what they can do, at least until we buy someone, it's not like they can be worse. But I guess 0 goals or assists in a year is good enough for Ole as he continues to select him.
Greenwood played 90 minutes 2 days ago. He just turned 18, he can't play every match, rotation and rest is needed, we have had enough injuries.
It’s not about negativity for the sake of it, it’s just the delusion of some on here and than the meltdown that would be inevitable when as you say the “blip” happens. I was trying to be constructive towards a view for a hard game as you say, but also very sincere. The same issues were on show tonight as were throughout the season. We just managed to get a result this time.
What issues? We created plenty of good opportunities against a pretty defensive set up, conceded barely a chance and were good in possession most of the night. Levels dipped at times in the second half but that's understandable when ahead in the middle of such a busy period. As I say, I expect the abuse on the bad days but why in the name of God can we not all, as United fans, just be happy when things go well. He got it right tonight, it's ok to say so.
Greenwood is a forward. Mata was the only other midfielder on the bench.
Fair enough but I find it odd to bring up Lingard after a good away win. Give the manager and the players abit of credit.
Both were better options to bring on than Lingard.
Garner, Levitt, Puigmal and Galbraith didn't.
Greenwood is a better attacking player. Not having midfielders on the bench is on the manager.
It is a long season. If Lingard could get back to the level he had a year or so ago, it would probably be more valuable to our squad for the rest of this season than introducing youngsters who might not be ready even. To add to that, it is in fact Lingards duty to not suck completely and be valuable to our team, so it is a bit on him too no? I can only imagine he wont be here after the summer, and he'll have no complaints. However, I do agree that it feels like waste because the decision on Lingard is easy to make for us fans, but maybe it is a bit about keeping everybody happy as well and give those final chances this season before a cut throat summer.
It's not about the results, mate.
Agreed. Results wise it's probably not, but entertainment wise we are moving somewhere. At least we are not as boring as we were under LVG and Jose's second season onwards. I like that our counter attacks now lead somewhere.
I agree - I put 6-7 of the worst on ignore last night.
Try not to get so upset when we win - it's probably not good for your heart
After just coming back, playing 45 2 days before and then added to the fact that Burnley would have been kicking lumps out of him the whole game, not playing him was the best decision.
Maybe he played Pogba more than he expected, McTominay was injured which means Pogba had to play 45 mins, maybe he wasn't ready for that much game time.
I think the tactical side can be addressed by bringing in another coach. Fergie, Jose, Pep and Klopp have had influential No.2s in their careers who have been reputed to have been critical in their tactical contributions. Ole needs to find one because as promising as this team can be it also exhibited some horrible lows.
Cannot wait until Garner and Laird breaks into the first team tbh. With those we will look real promising. I just hope it happens as soon as next season seeing Young and Matic will leave by then.
That's why Ole should stay.
In hindsight absolutely the right decision but before the game there were serious questions being asked, especially in not even making the bench.
Jesus man, what abuse are you talking about? I just pointed out that this was far from an impressive performance. Midfield still looked solid as a melted butter, Lindelof looked like he was gonna cry of Wood came on his side once again, and our attack still looked inconsistent with no pattern of play that will show once again when we face a better organized team. Subs were awful again, Lingard getting a chance for the 100th time, and why fecking Shaw when we need a Midfielder on? Yes I am not happy because as soon as we play a more organized team than that shit we are in trouble. I hope I am wrong, but that’s what I think.
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