Fosu-Mens
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So, what fees can we get for the players at the club that are not needed?
Smalling to Roma £15m?
Pereira £5m?
Smalling to Roma £15m?
Pereira £5m?
Pretty much agree with this, can see one marquee signing this summer and a lot of deadwood being shifted on.I think Ole is playing his cards close to his chest here. He has probably got 2 versions of who he wants coming in, depending on Champions league or not. It may all be built around 1 big player coming in, Lets say Sancho if we qualify, and perhaps a £50 mill player. Or maybe lets say Grealish and a £30 mill player if not. We will get one 'big name' in I'm sure and spend at least £100 million gross with some if not all of Lingard/Periera/Smalling/Rojo/Jones hopefully Sanchez moved on.
Honestly, whether you say you have a lot to spend or little to spend will make no difference in transfer negotiations. Manchester United's financial statements are available for all to see; it will give anyone a good idea of how much money they have.
Besides, that isn't even needed with Manutd. It is obvious they are one of the richest clubs in the world; any team is going to ask for a massive amount from them regardless.
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I think we will probably spend £100m or less. If we sign Sancho, I would not be surprised if it is the only signing we make, unless we sell Pogba.
It was a tongue in cheek comment.Covid 19 recession isn't a valid and honest reason? I honestly don't know what the feck is then!
All clubs have been affected! TV revenue is there but obviously match day revenue is a loss.
We've no idea currently how long this is going to go on for either.
We don't have a bottomless pit of funding and our charitable efforts and fact we continued to pay all staff full wages through the lock down also need to be considered.
I’m not sure if you know the situation here. Werner has release clause that would be expired in upcoming weeks, if they didn’t act few weeks ago then they will lose the chance to get him cheaper, while our primary target Sancho doesn’t have release clause and cost so much money which require time for consideration and negotiation, we don’t even know if the new season will start the same date.True, they haven't wasted anytime investing it
I think this is exactly what you're waiting for, much will depend on whether you qualify for the Champions League or not. Chelsea already had acsh after Hazard sale and transfer ban and are probably forecasting they will qualify so are happy to spend early to take advantage while others wait and see. It's different for United.I think Ole is playing his cards close to his chest here. He has probably got 2 versions of who he wants coming in, depending on Champions league or not. It may all be built around 1 big player coming in, Lets say Sancho if we qualify, and perhaps a £50 mill player. Or maybe lets say Grealish and a £30 mill player if not. We will get one 'big name' in I'm sure and spend at least £100 million gross with some if not all of Lingard/Periera/Smalling/Rojo/Jones hopefully Sanchez moved on.
Why is there the need to inflate prices and wages of players at or moving to rival teams?Werner's on something like £270k a week at Chelsea. We aren't going to spend that sort of money on wages for a back-up striker.
Absolutely, if nothing else we know how to maximize revenues and manage our finances. There is an air of unreality about some of the speculation, not just about Utd, but about spending in the transfer market generally. On paper it's a buyer's market, but the reason prices may be lowered is because the money won't be there to spend, just as, say, house prices fall when there isn't the money around to spend on them.It's an uncertaint time to splash out, but also the best opportunity to spend in a long time - it will be a buyer's market.
The question is do we take the leap and spend now while clubs will be more willing to accept lower prices, and take on that added risk of more debt with future revenue uncertain?
Can we spend what we had originally planned within the guidelines of FFP? None of us know the facts, I'm sure there's plenty of number crunching going on behind the scenes. Whatever about Woodward and his lack of footballing knowledge, he's clearly a prudent financial man and we're probably in the best position to come out of this financial mess still in good shape with him at the helm.
Depends on which sources you trust.Why is there the need to inflate prices and wages of players at or moving to rival teams?
* Werner moved for £47m on reported wages of 200k (some say less)
*Ziyech moved for £36m
*Hudson-Odoi is not on £120k a week. Seasonal achievements (team and individual) takes it up to almost 120k. Safe to say he is not getting that this season.
* No we have not bought Chilwell and certainly not for anything above £40m ( still a hard pass for me but Chelsea will Bakayoko a Drinkwater every season I guess)
Some of them are replies to similar misinformation a few posts back.
Do you disagree?
The reported wage figure I heard was £270k. If you have heard reports of lesser wages, feel free to believe whichever report you like. My point wasn't a dig at Chelsea, I was merely pointing out that Utd seem to be trying to manage our wage budget properly for a change, so it's unlikely we'd be interested in allocating a significant part of that budget on Werner when we have other positions needing more immediate attention.Why is there the need to inflate prices and wages of players at or moving to rival teams?
* Werner moved for £47m on reported wages of 200k (some say less)
*Ziyech moved for £36m
*Hudson-Odoi is not on £120k a week. Seasonal achievements (team and individual) takes it up to almost 120k. Safe to say he is not getting that this season.
* No we have not bought Chilwell and certainly not for anything above £40m ( still a hard pass for me but Chelsea will Bakayoko a Drinkwater every season I guess)
Some of them are replies to similar misinformation a few posts back.
Chelsea have already spent £80/90m for this summer and they are not done.I would be surprised if we or any other club does some big spending this window.
They had a transfer ban though and also sold a bunch of players in the meantime.Chelsea have already spent £80/90m for this summer and they are not done.
So there are conditions to it? Just because they have a transfer ban, they are not affected by covid?They had a transfer ban though and also sold a bunch of players in the meantime.
Surprising, then again they had a transfer ban last season, maybe it's that money?Chelsea have already spent £80/90m for this summer and they are not done.
It's a better way of doing things then issuing press statements that we can "do things other clubs can only dream of doing", or leaking to the press that we have 100m for the right special player.So i just seen we will not meet Dortmund's asking price and won't pay anymore than 50 mill for Sancho..............
Chelsea used the morata money for Werner.So there are conditions to it? Just because they have a transfer ban, they are not affected by covid?
Liverpool didnt spend last summer, will they this?
I am not sure what you mean by conditions. They will be affected by covid just as much as others but they are likely to have more cash reserves, I would presume, because of their positive transfer balance in the last few years. A big reason for that was their ban.So there are conditions to it? Just because they have a transfer ban, they are not affected by covid?
Liverpool didnt spend last summer, will they this?
Surprising, then again they had a transfer ban last season, maybe it's that money?
Chelsea used the morata money for Werner.
They got 100m for hazard they never spent and got their highest earner off the books.
Liverpool barely spent last year, but spent over 300m euros over the three windows prior (granted they got a lot back for Coutinho alone). No doubt still paying fees on those on those acquisitions. I’m sure they have funds, but not 9-figure funds
Arthur join Juventus from Barcelona for £73m as Miralem Pjanic moves in the opposite direction for £64m but both clubs post a £50m profit.I see this everywhere. Yes they are spending the Hazard and Morata money.
18/19 spent £200m and got 73m back
19/20 spent 50m with transfer ban and got 140m back
20/21 spent 93m already and will continue to do so.
This was the initial quote "I would be surprised if we or any other club does some big spending this window"
So Chelsea spend and it is because they have Hazard Money.
if City spend the excuse will be because they have rich owners
If Liverpool spend, will be because they have not spent last year.
So the statement is incorrect. If we spend 100m this summer that is big money.,
My point is every club would copy them for a big money transfer, so the initial quote "I would be surprised if we or any other club does some big spending this window" is true. Even PSG won't be stupid enough to splash a straight 100m for a player during this situation.On the surface the deals would appear to involved a simple exchange of €10m (£9.1m) between two clubs for whom that sum is a drop in the ocean, even in a post-Covid-19 world. But football finance expert The Swiss Ramble has revealed how both clubs could post £50m-plus profits from the transfers.
PSG havent spent the same money since Mbappe. They can't spend like they used to because of FFP.Arthur join Juventus from Barcelona for £73m as Miralem Pjanic moves in the opposite direction for £64m but both clubs post a £50m profit.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...lona-post-50m-plus-profits-Pjanic-Arthur.html
My point is every club would copy them for a big money transfer, so the initial quote "I would be surprised if we or any other club does some big spending this window" is true. Even PSG won't be stupid enough to splash a straight 100m for a player during this situation.
Chelsea Spend €93m for 2 players but got €71m in return after selling 2 players, so they just basically spend €22m this summer. This is why they won't stop in the Market right now. But could they spend another €100m? I don't think so.
I think people are not quite getting the zeitgeist of world football transfers quite yet or fully grasping the mathsAs Ole's position is now secured compared to last December, can he bring in Odegaard and Haaland to UTD ?
These 2 with Sancho will take us to next level I think with an addition of someone like Carmavinga.
Real is not selling Ødegaard. Haaland has just been in Dortmund for half a season.As Ole's position is now secured compared to last December, can he bring in Odegaard and Haaland to UTD ?
So all it takes to get to the next level is £300 million+ to sign all those players. Yeah thats totally going to happenAs Ole's position is now secured compared to last December, can he bring in Odegaard and Haaland to UTD ?
These 2 with Sancho will take us to next level I think with an addition of someone like Carmavinga.
Actually its been reported they may be looking to sellReal is not selling Ødegaard. Haaland has just been in Dortmund for half a season.
That makes no sense, unless the knee injury already has doomed him. In which case we ought to stay away.Actually its been reported they may be looking to sell