No way that quote about the fans hitting F5 is real. I refuse to believe it.
Ole's Press Conference
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Can you post the quote/page its on?
DDG/Romero
AWB/Dalot
Smalling/Jones
Lindelof/Tuanzebe
Shaw/Young
Matic/Fred
McTomminay/Pereira
Lingard/James
Pogba/Mata
Martial/Sanchez
Rahsford/Greenwood
That's the squad + options. It's already pretty big, with the possibility that Darmian, Lukaku and Rojo on the way out.
It looks like Maguire and Longstaff are seriously under consideration, in which case Tuanzebe/Pereira (or someone else in their position) might be replaced for the season.
I'm very confident and comfortable with that squad. I think top 4 should be easily do-able.
Don't forget that this squad pretty (more or less) got 82 points in 2017/18. It also looked like the best team in England between December and March.
If you throw in Ole's new formation and high-pressing style, and I think we're looking VERY good.
United is full of top class talent (World Cup winners, PL winners, CL winners, best-in-their-position players). Up until now, they've been playing below the sum of their parts. Solskjaer looks like he's finally come up with something that can get them to play like a team. Looks rosy to me.
AWB/Dalot
Smalling/Jones
Lindelof/Tuanzebe
Shaw/Young
Matic/Fred
McTomminay/Pereira
Lingard/James
Pogba/Mata
Martial/Sanchez
Rahsford/Greenwood
That's the squad + options. It's already pretty big, with the possibility that Darmian, Lukaku and Rojo on the way out.
It looks like Maguire and Longstaff are seriously under consideration, in which case Tuanzebe/Pereira (or someone else in their position) might be replaced for the season.
I'm very confident and comfortable with that squad. I think top 4 should be easily do-able.
Don't forget that this squad pretty (more or less) got 82 points in 2017/18. It also looked like the best team in England between December and March.
If you throw in Ole's new formation and high-pressing style, and I think we're looking VERY good.
United is full of top class talent (World Cup winners, PL winners, CL winners, best-in-their-position players). Up until now, they've been playing below the sum of their parts. Solskjaer looks like he's finally come up with something that can get them to play like a team. Looks rosy to me.
Some fans won't be happy until he rips off his shirt and reveals a GLAZERS OUT written in blood on his chest. Lunatics.
It's clear that Lukaku, Darmian and Rojo are expendables that we are dithering around with but will surely be sold before August 31st. The bridge burner, sideburner and toast burner will all be crying in public once they realise they're facing a season in the stands.
1 WC winner (Pogba - wants to leave & doesn't give a feck about United)
1 CL winner (Mata- old, slow, declined)
5 PL winners (Matic, Jones, Smalling, Young
enough said really, De Gea only one worth mentioning)We need more quality ASAP, just because they've won sh!t doesn't mean they're going to help the team otherwise we might as well bring in anyone past it that's won big trophies.
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Each year will get tougher as prices go higher and we will need to strengthen more positions. We keep rambling about being the biggest club in the world. It's time to act and to spend like one. Else we are just the biggest milking cow in football
I don't think anybody has said that they want 9 players. But at this time, we have bought 2 players. Big difference between 2 and 9.
And nobody wants to get rid of 10 players. At this time, I believe only Valencia left (who can be classified as deadwood). I won't include Herrera in that, because he was not deadwood. Big difference between 1 and 10.
It seems that some fans on here are quite happy to accept mediocrity. They find it acceptable to see us limp to a draw against Huddersfield (one of the worst teams ever to play in the EPL). And to then lose in the next game to Cardiff, who was so bad, they got relegated.
By hanging onto the deadwood, we are accepting that losing to relegation candidates is acceptable. And the worst thing about it is that some fans are accepting of this.
Mata is a WC winner too1 WC winner (Pogba - wants to leave & doesn't give a feck about United)
1 CL winner (Mata- old, slow, declined)
5 PL winners (Matic, Jones, Smalling, Young
We need more quality ASAP, just because they've won sh!t doesn't mean they're going to help the team otherwise we might as well bring in anyone past it that's won big trophies.
Then still dont bring them on tour. If they are not in your plans, bin them. Darmian and Rojo should have never gone on tour - absolutely pointless. Cant pretend we love them just to gain a few extra mill.
How did we get 82 points a couple of years ago?1 WC winner (Pogba - wants to leave & doesn't give a feck about United)
1 CL winner (Mata- old, slow, declined)
5 PL winners (Matic, Jones, Smalling, Young
We need more quality ASAP, just because they've won sh!t doesn't mean they're going to help the team otherwise we might as well bring in anyone past it that's won big trophies.
Our team is better now.
Hardly an achievement finishing 25-30 points behind City, plus Liverpool started focusing more on CL too than the league that year.
Yep my bad although I don’t remember him starting any games or even sub appearances (Xavi, Iniesta, Fabregas, Silva was the MF iirc), it was more so Euro 2012, but the point still remains..
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It's funny how every year we end up with lots of threads demanding a full clearout and by the start of the season the squad is all good again because we have PL winners like Ashley, Smalling and Jones to lead us
You can't sell players if:
1) Nobody wants them.
2)Nobody wants to pay the price for them and we're looking to make some kind of return on an investment.
3) See number 1.
1) Nobody wants them.
2)Nobody wants to pay the price for them and we're looking to make some kind of return on an investment.
3) See number 1.
So I wrote a tonque in cheek post, and I am one of the fans who accepting mediocrity? Charming. Thanks.
You also did not write that it is impossible to buy 7,8,9 playes for 10mil Pounds, and our deadwood would not get us 250mil Pounds. Not to mention that non of the bellow mentioned players would be on 35k pounds per week.
Further more, according to Caf these days we should have already signed DeLight, Maguire, Dybala, Pepe, Ericsen, Ceballos, some want Bale, some want Zaha back, Tierney, Aarons, Longstaff, Fernandes, Milinkovic-Savic, am I missing somebody? Basically every player that plays these days.
As of the likes of Jones, Rojo, Darmian, Young, Eric, Mata, Matić, Lingard, Lukaku, Smalling, Shaw, Fred...according to Caf, all of them are deadwood, should have been sold as soon as transfer window was open, to free the space for all of the World Class players we are getting.
Off I go to watch replay of the Cardiff game, cause I loveee me some mediocrity.
Andreas Pereira 20-30m
Darmian 5-10m
Marcos Rojo 15-20m
Jones 20-30m
Joel Pereira - 5m
The above in total would yield 65-95m proceeds. Then we can also sell Lukaku and bring total proceeds to the 130-150m ballpark more or less
This is a squad that has failed miserably and got plenty of managers sacked. But ok.
So I wrote a tonque in cheek post, and I am one of the fans who accepting mediocrity? Charming. Thanks.
You also did not write that it is impossible to buy 7,8,9 playes for 10mil Pounds, and our deadwood would not get us 250mil Pounds. Not to mention that non of the bellow mentioned players would be on 35k pounds per week.
Further more, according to Caf these days we should have already signed DeLight, Maguire, Dybala, Pepe, Ericsen, Ceballos, some want Bale, some want Zaha back, Tierney, Aarons, Longstaff, Fernandes, Milinkovic-Savic, am I missing somebody? Basically every player that plays these days.
As of the likes of Jones, Rojo, Darmian, Young, Eric, Mata, Matić, Lingard, Lukaku, Smalling, Shaw, Fred...according to Caf, all of them are deadwood, should have been sold as soon as transfer window was open, to free the space for all of the World Class players we are getting.
Off I go to watch replay of the Cardiff game, cause I loveee me some mediocrity.
No one mentioned spending £10m per player. We are one of the richest clubs so we should be able to afford £200m of transfer in without having major issued.
If you tried hard enough, you can sell Lukaku, Rojo, Darmian, Jones. That is not asking for much.
The players you mentioned are called transfer targets! that doesnt mean sign them all, they are better than what we currently have.
Do you think it's not feasible to get 4/5 signings this summer?
My point exactly!It's funny how every year we end up with lots of threads demanding a full clearout and by the start of the season the squad is all good again because we have PL winners like Ashley, Smalling and Jones to lead us
No proper CFs...
Not that I like our squad, way too many average players followed by inconsistent players but they got managers sacked? Managers are to blame as well.
LVG played the most boring football I've seen and Jose parked the bus vs Lower teams/threw everyone under the bus at every turn and on top of that these managers had plenty of Windows to get rid.
City sold Delph, who was doing fine but they realised he will be a deadwood soon. And here we are making Young captain.
Not many here care about being a top-4 club. Not those who've witnessed Ferguson era, at least. Our ambition must be MUCH higher than that - and in this regard the squad we have is sub-par.
Valid comment, but we can't defend the players any longer. We are past that point. They have to take responsibility and most of the blame.
I understand the LVG and Jose bashing but when will fans realise it is about time to have a look at players?
LVG- success wherever he has been, took the dutch to semis. - At United boring.
Jose - We knew his style but he won things - At United, never ever looked like a Jose team.
OGS - By the end of last season the football was horrific.
3 managers, 3 styles, but by the end of it - similar players, not performing and playing boring football.
The team was poor on the pitch. The quality is there in the squad.
This threads are wrong to do so.It's funny how every year we end up with lots of threads demanding a full clearout and by the start of the season the squad is all good again because we have PL winners like Ashley, Smalling and Jones to lead us
What quality. Apart from Pogba and De Gea there are no WC players. We have some good players in Lindelof, Rashford, Martial, Shaw but jury is yet to be out on them. We have a lot of average squad players who unfortunately as the season progresses become first choice aka young, jones, Mata, Lingard. This is not what you call quality.
The Wumminator is wumming.
Great point. Once I saw this news, I said to myself that's why they're so ahead of us. They get rid of their players right before they become deaadwood. We keep them years after they become deadwood and some fans wonder why there's no club in for them.
You've made an arbitrary line for WC/good/average based on 'the jury'. I've done the same based on actually understanding football and watching United play.
Yep, they sell them while they have value but are on the decline. We are just a terribly run football club. Did i say football? Doesn't seem like we are anymore.
If you think the likes of Young, Jones are good players let alone worldclass then your understanding of football is poor. Truth is we have a lot of average player and one need not do a PHD on football to understand that.
Just going to post a few of Mourinho's comments from last pre-season as a bit of contrast:
"Do you want me to be very happy with the players [Sanchez] has around him? We are not playing here to improve the team, the dynamic or our routines. We are playing just to try to survive and not have some ugly results. Alexis is the only attacking player that we have"
"Antonio Valencia comes from holiday - I think too much holiday for him"
"This is not our team, this is not our squad - not even 30 per cent of it. We start the game with almost half the players who are not even going to belong to our squad on August 9 [transfer deadline day]."
"Because for the beginning of the season we are going to be in trouble."
I mean if I had to choose between his and Ole's comments, I know which side I'm on.
"Do you want me to be very happy with the players [Sanchez] has around him? We are not playing here to improve the team, the dynamic or our routines. We are playing just to try to survive and not have some ugly results. Alexis is the only attacking player that we have"
"Antonio Valencia comes from holiday - I think too much holiday for him"
"This is not our team, this is not our squad - not even 30 per cent of it. We start the game with almost half the players who are not even going to belong to our squad on August 9 [transfer deadline day]."
"Because for the beginning of the season we are going to be in trouble."
I mean if I had to choose between his and Ole's comments, I know which side I'm on.
I laughed so hard when I read that post.In pre season?
So you are saying it will be all doom and gloom if we lose tomorrow.
Mou - Spoke his mind, we knew where we are standing, but being negative wasn't good for the team.
Ole - Clearly will cover up and put a positive spin on things, we don't know exactly what is going on at times, but good morale for the team
Ole edges it because of the effect it'll have for the team, let's just hope we get the results when PL starts...