Omar Berrada | Man Utd CEO

NotChatGPT said:
People need to calm the feck down.
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It is right to question the leadership after last night. I'm not saying fire Berrada but the whole footballing structure deserve intense scrutiny after getting dumped out by a 4th division side for the first time in our storied history.

Their leadership so far has been a complete disaster. The Glazers on their own with Woodward did much better.
 
Been trying to protect my sanity by saying we got some decent and clever football in charge now.
At least a clear stepup from Ed and Dick running the show.
Last night shows that we are miles away from having the competence and leadership needed.
 
Gordon S said:
Been trying to protect my sanity by saying we got some decent and clever football in charge now.
At least a clear stepup from Ed and Dick running the show.
Last night shows that we are miles away from having the competence and leadership needed.
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It's literally exactly the same as Ed and dick. Wilcox and berrada are both learning on the job doing stuff they have no background in. Best in class my arse
 
SuperiorXI said:
It is right to question the leadership after last night. I'm not saying fire Berrada but the whole footballing structure deserve intense scrutiny after getting dumped out by a 4th division side for the first time in our storied history.

Their leadership so far has been a complete disaster. The Glazers on their own with Woodward did much better.
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A few weeks ago people were wanking their tits off to the concept of signing Cunha, Mbeumo and Sesko in the same window, finally having a competent leadership, now the leadership is an absolute disaster that deserve intense scrutiny.

Bitch please.

It's not binary
 
Bojan11 said:
He should not be making the appointments. Surely you leave that in charge of the footballing side. Hughes and Edwards appointed Slot, not the CEO. So why is our CEO making footballing decisions? He’s not qualified to do that and he’s never done that at City. So why here?
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Exactly, it's like he got to united and saw an opportunity to play football manager
 
NotChatGPT said:
A few weeks ago people were wanking their tits off to the concept of signing Cunha, Mbeumo and Sesko in the same window, finally having a competent leadership, now the leadership is an absolute disaster that deserve intense scrutiny.

Bitch please.

It's not binary
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There were many of us pointing out the potential issues with having spent so much money on attackers that we couldn't afford to strengthen the areas that most need strengthening. It wasn't hard to say for a laymen so it's not asking for much for highly paid execs to notice it
 
NotChatGPT said:
A few weeks ago people were wanking their tits off to the concept of signing Cunha, Mbeumo and Sesko in the same window, finally having a competent leadership, now the leadership is an absolute disaster that deserve intense scrutiny.

Bitch please.

It's not binary
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When you get deservedly dumped out the cup by a 4th division side for the first time in your long and storied history, then yes, it is binary. Open your eyes, get your head out of the sand.
 
Matt851 said:
There were many of us pointing out the potential issues with having spent so much money on attackers that we couldn't afford to strengthen the areas that most need strengthening. It wasn't hard to say for a laymen so it's not asking for much for highly paid execs to notice it
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I don't disagree, i'm just stating that the theme a few weeks ago was the polar opposite of what it's now.
 
SuperiorXI said:
When you get deservedly dumped out the cup by a 4th division side for the first time in your long and storied history, then yes, it is binary. Open your eyes, get your head out of the sand.
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Shit happens, doesn't define much.
 
Big Ron’s Coat said:
Standard preseason optimism. So what ?
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When the mood changes from "oh my god these people are fecking geniuses" to "these guys are fecking useless, Woodward and co were better" in the space of a few weeks, i think it's fair to say that the majority are morons.
 
NotChatGPT said:
Shit happens, doesn't define much.
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Shit has been happening since he was appointed manager. We've had nothing but shit week after week. There's a large body of evidence that he has failed and if I were a betting man, I wouldn't bet on him getting us out of this situation. It's far more likely we just get worse.
 
NotChatGPT said:
I don't disagree, i'm just stating that the theme a few weeks ago was the polar opposite of what it's now.
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People were happier before we got 1 point out of 6 in the league, then got knocked out of the league cup by Grimsby Town?

Who'd have thought?
 
NotChatGPT said:
People need to calm the feck down.
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Well actually no.

He has — more or less personally, if the reports are to be believed — ushered in the worst season-long spell of results that most of the supporters alive today have ever witnessed.

Now is not a time to calm down.
 
SuperiorXI said:
Shit has been happening since he was appointed manager. We've had nothing but shit week after week. There's a large body of evidence that he has failed and if I were a betting man, I wouldn't bet on him getting us out of this situation. It's far more likely we just get worse.
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We started out this season well enough, unlucky to lose against Arsenal, unlucky not to get more from the match against Fulham. Grimsby was a disaster, but i can't say i'm too bothered about it. The important part is how the league pans out this year and if we see any solid improvements or not.
 
NotChatGPT said:
When the mood changes from "oh my god these people are fecking geniuses" to "these guys are fecking useless, Woodward and co were better" in the space of a few weeks, i think it's fair to say that the majority are morons.
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I’m not sure what the point of supporting a football club is if you can’t be optimistic for a new season. A couple of weeks into the season and we’ve already reverted to the relegation level performances we saw last season so it’s not hard to understand the turn in mood.
 
NotChatGPT said:
We started out this season well enough, unlucky to lose against Arsenal, unlucky not to get more from the match against Fulham. Grimsby was a disaster, but i can't say i'm too bothered about it. The important part is how the league pans out this year and if we see any solid improvements or not.
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The standards are on the floor if you think we started well enough. We lost at home to Arsenal which is a disaster of a result in any season, we then went and drew to Fulham with a performance that looked no different to last season (excluding the first 15/20 mins). If you're not bothered about last night and think the season didn't start too badly I'm not sure what value there is in this debate.

If we stay the course, I can tell you for a fact how it will pan out: we will do nothing, we will win nothing, we will be lucky to not be relegated.
 
NotChatGPT said:
We started out this season well enough, unlucky to lose against Arsenal, unlucky not to get more from the match against Fulham. Grimsby was a disaster, but i can't say i'm too bothered about it. The important part is how the league pans out this year and if we see any solid improvements or not.
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You’re detached from reality, my guy. Our manager indirectly gave his resignation last night and you’re out here talking about “seeing the season unfold”. It’s already over.
 
Big Ron’s Coat said:
I’m not sure what the point of supporting a football club is if you can’t be optimistic for a new season. A few weeks into the season and we’ve already reverted to the relegation level performances we saw last season so it’s not hard to understand the turn in mood.
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I don't mind optimism, but there's a difference between optimism for a new season and a collective of people thinking that the leadership is brilliant, this is brilliant, that is brilliant, everything is brilliant, ah the club is finally being run in such a professional and brilliant way, everything is better now.

And suddenly everything is shit.
 
NotChatGPT said:
A few weeks ago people were wanking their tits off to the concept of signing Cunha, Mbeumo and Sesko in the same window, finally having a competent leadership, now the leadership is an absolute disaster that deserve intense scrutiny.
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A few weeks ago sensible people were still worried about not having a keeper on the books who's even Championship standard, the glaring deficiencies in central midfield and relying on Dalot (who's shite) and Amad (who's a 4ft winger) in one of the most crucial roles in Amorim's system (for whatever that's worth). They just tend to get drowned out by the Xitter crowd who don't want to know about the "ugly" positions and want to sign more flashy wingers and strikers.
 
El Presidente said:
You’re detached from reality, my guy. Our manager indirectly gave his resignation last night and you’re out here talking about “seeing the season unfold”. It’s already over.
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Was it something he said, or are you literally just referring to the performance? Genuine question
 
How decisively he manages and deals with Amorim will tell us a lot about his conviction and belief in himself. Take accountability, act swiftly and move on (fail and fail "fast" essentially) or is he going to dither, try and protect his own "reputation"/decision and double down?

The longer this goes on, short of a miracle turnaround...the worse Berrada looks in this situation, IMO.
 
CallyRed said:
Just think, he could have brought Amorim to City if Pep left.
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The Amorim to City talk was based on Pep having not signed a new contract and also Hugo Viana signing to take over from Txixi as Director Of Football as Txixi was retiring, once Viana was known to be joining the Amorim/Viana/City rumours started but it was never reported by anyone credible from what I remember and Berrada simply thought that signing Amorim would one up City, Berrada has zero footballing decision making experience but thought he’d look like a genius by pulling rank on Ashworth.
 
NotChatGPT said:
I don't mind optimism, but there's a difference between optimism for a new season and a collective of people thinking that the leadership is brilliant, this is brilliant, that is brilliant, everything is brilliant, ah the club is finally being run in such a professional and brilliant way, everything is better now.

And suddenly everything is shit.
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Agreed. People need to get some perspective. The Glazers have f*cked this club royally. I dont think we ever seriously challenge while they are owners. They allowed ETH and Murtough helped assemble the worse squad we have ever had in the PL. its a big job to overturn. But despite saying the right things, Ratcliffe has done all the wrong things. Best in class football management was the first casualty. A commercial CEO should be nowhere near choosing a manager, and Ratcliffe should have the common sense to realise that. He was obviously seduced by the siren words of Berrada. It shouldnt be a surprise that a manager chosen by a commercial guy is not good enough, we saw that often enough with Woodward.

Our signings are better but not great, it will take another couple of windows to address all the problems in the squad. But what is also abundantly clear is that Amorim is not good enough. It was clear last season, and all those posting about time on the coaching field, process etc either have never played a decent level of sport or have no idea what they are talking about. It was equally clear that ETH needed to go after the cup final, but no we had to hold on, largely due to the supporters demanding he stay. Our scouting is still a mess. Anyone can see the technical holes in Onana's game, when Reya was available for half the price. What on earth were Ugarte and Zirkzee meant to do in the PL? It will take time but what is clear now is that Amorim needs to go right now. No point waiting until Burnley.
 
SuperiorXI said:
The standards are on the floor if you think we started well enough. We lost at home to Arsenal which is a disaster of a result in any season, we then went and drew to Fulham with a performance that looked no different to last season (excluding the first 15/20 mins). If you're not bothered about last night and think the season didn't start too badly I'm not sure what value there is in this debate.

If we stay the course, I can tell you for a fact how it will pan out: we will do nothing, we will win nothing, we will be lucky to not be relegated.
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Not sure how standards are on the floor considering we outplayed Arsenal and created plenty of great chances. The only thing that wasn't great was the result. Against Fulham we started brilliantly and could've been up by 2 goals at half time, i don't think it's much of a surprise that our confidence level is shit and that failure to take advantage has consequences. If anything, those two matches were a positive sign
 
NotChatGPT said:
I don't mind optimism, but there's a difference between optimism for a new season and a collective of people thinking that the leadership is brilliant, this is brilliant, that is brilliant, everything is brilliant, ah the club is finally being run in such a professional and brilliant way, everything is better now.

And suddenly everything is shit.
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I don’t think the majority thought the leadership was brilliant. A large section of fans was excited by the prospect of a brand new front three after scoring 44 league goals last season which was understandable. But there were plenty of us questioning the logic of ignoring other positions and the decision to retain the manager this summer. Also those who sounded so optimistic surely had their doubts about that final decision but opted not to voice them.

You seem to be trying your best to paint a picture here that doesn’t take a lot of context and nuance into account for the sake of a laugh at your own club’s fan base which is strange.
 
Berrada was hugely respected at City. If the holy trinity was Soriano, Begiristain and Guardiola then Berrada can be described as the Pope. The problem is he wasn't the COO as he is often described on here (that is Roel de Vries) he was the COO for football operations reporting into Txiki. Apparently a few eyebrows were raised when United hired him as CEO, a role which is beyond his experience and expertise. Now he is making decisions where he has no track record of success. It really wouldn't surprise me if he returns to City in the next couple of years to a similar role to the one he left.
 
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Big Ron’s Coat said:
I don’t think the majority thought the leadership was brilliant. A large section of fans was excited by the prospect of a brand new front three after scoring 44 league goals last season which was understandable. But there were plenty of us questioning the logic of ignoring other positions and the decision to retain the manager this summer. Also those who sounded so optimistic surely had their doubts about that final decision but opted not to voice them.

You seem to be trying your best to paint a picture here that doesn’t take a lot of context and nuance into account for the sake of a laugh at your own club’s fan base which is strange.
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I think it's fairly easy to prove that our fan base is moronic.
 
Perhaps just don't get a guy who was part of a corrupt regime for 12 years. United fans have berated City for years because of their cheating. However, they had no problem with getting Berrada, who was the COO and had been working closely with their CEO for more than a decade. I never understood that.
 
NZT-One said:
Hyper specialist. Of course. Lets just repeat it as often as we can, so we can finally believe it. But sure, we suffer, because our players are just fine, just dragged down by the unsound and exotic expectations of 3-4-3-Amorim. Like being able to keep the ball, pass the ball, run permanently, not be a push over.
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Ye it's totally ridiculous. It strikes me as something I would have thought when I was 15 and I thought football was just played on paper.
 
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