Entitlement? AI bots? Who knows. There's probably just a lot of cnuts on here these days. Used to feel a lot more uplifting and moderate
Omar Berrada: Manchester United aiming to win the title by 2028
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Nik (@Rood), Jamie (@Vault Dweller) and Ed (@That'sHernandez) give their end of season awards out! They celebrate the best players, goals and moments of the season (there were some, honestly) and also give out awards for the worst and most disappointing players/moments of the season.
They then discuss all the latest transfer rumours and get into the potential ins and outs this summer at Old Trafford.
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Antony does. Not so sure of Rashford and especially Sancho.
I guess it's because we've heard it all before with previous CEO's. The PR is so blatant and actions speak louder than words. We are world class at these people talking themselves up, not so much when it comes to doing the job at hand. I guess people just want to see the team performing well, entertaining the fans and getting results. Everything else is just unwelcome noise.
Spoiled fanbase. As if we’re entitled to finish top half.
The Caf was a more uplifting and positive place when we were winning. Funny how that happens.
You think they want to stay? I would imagine Rashford still thinks he could go to the WC, Sancho hates United so he'd probably happily go anywhere for another loan.
cnuts give cnuty responses - and there's a lot of them who "support" United. Usually avid Goldbridge watchers too.
They'll happily go somewhere else (either sold or on loan) as long as they keep their wages. In fact they would prefer that. But they don't seem to want it enough to drop their wage demands, which they won't get anywhere else. So to sell them we'll have to give them a payout.
Rashford reportedly is fine with lowering his wage demands, his problem is he wants to go to a top club
I don’t think so. Because regardless of whether Amorim works or not, at least a football structure has been created above the manager.
We have a CEO who came from Barca and City, not from adidas. We have a director of football finally. Scouting has been revamped, as has data analytics.
Yes, there may still be mistakes made but at least we have a structure set like other leading clubs.
Or would you rather go back to when a manager like ETH had seemingly total autonomy to sign half of Ajax.
That structure is encouraging sure but INEOS have been a calamity so far. From the Ashworth fiasco to making a hash of the transition from Ten Hag. Our transfer business doesn’t look great either.
Overall the signs aren’t promising.
Our transfer business under ineos has looked pretty decent so far. You really do like a moan don't you?!
Yea i agree.
Aside from Mazraoui I disagree. Yoro looks a serious talent but we paid through the nose to get him.
It’s not moaning it’s just calling it as I see it.
Heaven?
I do like signings like him and Obi tbf. Those sort of youth signings are the one encouraging aspect of our transfer business IMO.
If there was a “great understatement posts” thread, this could go in it.
To be fair to INEOS, the proper structure wasnt in playce when Ten Hag was retained post FA cup. And obviously Ashworth wasn't a great hire. He in part was responsible for keeping ETH.
Better to give Ashworth the boot then to keep him around if he is surplus to requirements.
This will be the first summer window where we have the CEO, DOF and Director of Recruitment in, plus a manager that INEOS has selected. They are off to a great start with Cunha and Mburmo, especially when they dont have CL football to attract players.
Ashworth wasn’t at the club when we took the decision to extend Ten Hag. The breakdown was his recommending more conservative options like Howe and Frank to replace EtH after the sacking while Berrada pushed for and ultimately got Amorim who Ashworth didn’t see as a good fit.
Either way I am hoping Wilcox is up to the job. Vivell certainly seems to have a sharp eye for talent. Hopefully Berrada lets the football people make the football decisions from now on. Otherwise the structure we’ve put in place is pointless.
True, Ashworth was not officially on board until July 1 2024, but it was reported that.....
"United co-owner Sir Jim Ratcliffe is now furious with Ashworth and Sir Dave Brailsford… for insisting they stuck with Erik ten Hag in the summer."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...David-Brent-football-took-Premier-League.html
I dont think it is outlandish to suggests that Ashworth was working and involved at United before his official start date./
Also, agree on the fact that Ashworth did also come forward with very conservative options, including Southgate.
Berrada did say to Mitten in the interview that the "football people" decided on Amorim. But who knows?
Ashworth was involved informally before joining, but that's very different from being in the role, with full access to information and events as they happen. I very much doubt someone in that position would've been given the authority to make a decision on ETH's future.
Also, the Southgate thing isn't true. Ashworth never advocated for him.
What information would Ashworth need to have input into the decision?
Would he not be able to assess the performances from the games he saw, as well as getting info via Bralesford of what the feeling was around the team / the club?
No one said he was "given the authority to make a decision on ETH's future". But it is hard to believe he, and Berrada, did not have input, given it was only a couple of weeks prior to him starting.
How do you know what Ashworth advocated for?
It was reported he did...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...an-United-sporting-director-Ruben-Amorim.html
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/dan-ashworth-pushed-gareth-southgate-30539924
Is there anything to show he didn't?
The Athletic cited Brailsford as the one pushing for Southgate a while back. No surprise as they are mates and all. Thank feck he is no longer part of the structure.
The jury is out on Ugarte in my opinion, but I don’t see any issues with the rest of them. Whether they will be good enough is obviously a question that will be answered over the coming season or two. But the crucial difference is that I don’t see any player (Ugarte aside) who we wouldn’t be able to break even or get a profit on.
This is how transfers should work. No club gets it 100% right, but even the wrong ones shouldn’t have a damaging impact financially, which is what we were doing previously.
Still think we're unlikely to even make it back into the Champions League by '28, let alone seriously compete for the title.
You can't fix organizational rot within a few years.
You can't fix organizational rot within a few years.
One of the only posts in here that made me chuckle for the right reasons.Yeah, I think the signings have been pretty good too. I'd say the only two I'm not sure about are Zirkzee and Ugarte. The rest have been decent.
INEOS are attempting to fix over a decade of poor decisions. Not something that can be fixed in 12months.
Imagine sacking someone for advice they gave before they officially started in the job.
There is something quite not right about it
There is something quite not right about it
We have to be more positive than that.
It would be a different story of the teams that qualified were so good, but City had a poor season and Chelsea and Spurs are both poor football teams.
It shouldn’t be an unreasonable objective to get back into the CL, especially with the like of Cunha and Mbeumo joining.
The eleven is more than good enough to qualify and Amorim needs to take responsibility too.
European qualification should be the minimum next season, with CL a proper objective.
Reeks of blame-shifting. Which is a way of life for corporates at a certain level.Imagine sacking someone for advice they gave before they officially started in the job.
There is something quite not right about it
What’s happened?Imagine sacking someone for advice they gave before they officially started in the job.
There is something quite not right about it
Before we finished near the relegation zone you mean?
Well, Liverpool finished 42 points ahead, literally double our grand total of 42 points and have since signed Wirtz and Frimpong and nowlooking at Guehi apparently..
So we're up against it I'd say!
So we're up against it I'd say!
I've got no problem with this guy, it's too early to judge the work he's been doing behind the scenes.
We've been a shit show for a decade and the numpties before him have done severe, long lasting damage. It's simply not possible to fix everything in the time he's been here so far.
If we're still a shambles in a couple years then sure, toss him in the pile with Woodward and Arnold. But I don't think that will be the case tbh
We've been a shit show for a decade and the numpties before him have done severe, long lasting damage. It's simply not possible to fix everything in the time he's been here so far.
If we're still a shambles in a couple years then sure, toss him in the pile with Woodward and Arnold. But I don't think that will be the case tbh
I mean in the darkest times you need your people the most
No chance this setup wins the title by 2028 but I'll gladly eat crow if they pull it off.
I'll be happy if they can progress back to CL qualification.
I'll be happy if they can progress back to CL qualification.
And Kertesz. While we have made one signing and zero sales. Business as usual at United.
We’re still hamstrung by the previous regime, it’ll take a long time to fully fix.
I do prefer it when we win to be honest
If they keep extending how many English teams go in, we might do it.