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On yesterdays performance, AWB is anything but a world class full back.
Can only remember one save he made yesterday, from H. Wilson, but the defence is certainly better, but would still like to see a bit more pace in there, so we can push forward more, always seems that they sit too deep.No defence in the P.L is fixed - but the last few years DDG had to make 3-4 supersaves each game to save us - this season he rarely needs to make more than 1-2 saves in the entire game. So of course it has improved a lot.
Our midfield is bottom 10 level and that's the main problem. Without Pogba you can't point at anyone to get atleast 10 assists this season.I think we are being quite harsh on the defence here tbh.
Yes it’s not perfect but I can’t remember the last time we conceded more than once in a game so surely the onus has to be on the attack to do better?
UhOur midfield is bottom 10 level and that's the main problem. Without Pogba you can't point at anyone to get atleast 10 assists this season.
Is there something I'm missing with this Rice hype?I think once we sign a pure defensive midfielder (Rice is heavily linked for January)
The reason that the attackers struggle to score goals is partly due to the fact that the wholesome organisation of our play is disbalanced in favour of the defence. The key is to find a better balance, but that's not easy and might lead to less stable defence. Generally, it's easy to have a relatively good defence when the team is risk averse and organised to concede less chances at the expense of the attack.It's absolutely better. This thread won't exist if our attacking players could actually score some fecking goals. I've mentioned it a lot but when we barely score more than 1 goal a game, our defence is under extreme pressure to keep clean sheets to win games. Every minute that goes by without us scoring more than 1 goal gives more belief to the opposition that they can nick a result. We very very rarely have 2+ goal leads, which itself demotivates opposing teams who know they have to do a lot more to get a result.
We've conceded more than once in 1 game this season (Palace at home) which is looking like a bit of a freak result. We don't keep many clean sheets for sure, and the defence isn't perfect, but it's much better than it was last season. Under a better coach with a better, more structured midfield, I believe we'd be conceding even less. And we don't need defensive tacticians like Allegri or Simeone to achieve that.
Probably just that he has decent defensive instincts so he can babysit an underpar CB a bit like Fellaini did last season. It didnt work out very well for us that time so I dont think its the play here eitherIs there something I'm missing with this Rice hype?
I’m not saying myself that Rice is the player we should be chasing for that specific role and simply that we’re constantly linked with him ahead of any other player so I think that’s who we're targeting as first choice, I’m happy we’re addressing a major problem position and at least Rice has mobility which is what Matic lacks.Is there something I'm missing with this Rice hype?
I actually do not get the hype on him. Its as if West Ham are playing well and he is a standout player in their team.Is there something I'm missing with this Rice hype?
I mean, they were last season - 1 place behind Leicester and he was their double player of the season.I actually do not get the hype on him. Its as if West Ham are playing well and he is a standout player in their team.
Watford were 8th last season.. your point?I mean, they were last season - 1 place behind Leicester and he was their double player of the season.
I dont think hes worth anywhere near that. The point is he was exactly what you just asked.Watford were 8th last season.. your point?
For a £75m player he has been relatively poor and I dont think he will improve this team like people think.
We need creativity. not more of the side ways passing
The lack of quality in midfield is brutally exposing our defence.I actually think we”ve got a good defence right now...De Gea is world class,Maguires a good Premierleague defender(not worth 80 million),Lindelof is beginning to find his feet and Wan Bissaka will be a top RB after 2-3 years.Now if we can somehow bring the best out of Luke Shaw,our defence will be sorted out...I know people say that our defence has improved, but is it good enough? We are currently conceding on average 1 goal per game
We have conceded in 9 of 11 games so far in the league this season. After spending £130m on defence, we have only been able to get 2 clean sheets in 11 games.
I feel that player-wise, we are good enough. However, I think our defensive structure is a mess unless we are able to sit back and clog up the holes up with sheer numbers.
Currently, we are on course to concede 38 goals this season. Funnily enough, we have a worse defence record than Leicester, who we bought Maguire off.
With £130m invested, we seem to be very easy to play through. Currently, I do not see £130m worth of improvement.
38 goals conceded is usually around 3rd stingiest team in the league. So if that's our starting point I'm pretty happy about that.I know people say that our defence has improved, but is it good enough? We are currently conceding on average 1 goal per game
We have conceded in 9 of 11 games so far in the league this season. After spending £130m on defence, we have only been able to get 2 clean sheets in 11 games.
I feel that player-wise, we are good enough. However, I think our defensive structure is a mess unless we are able to sit back and clog up the holes up with sheer numbers.
Currently, we are on course to concede 38 goals this season. Funnily enough, we have a worse defence record than Leicester, who we bought Maguire off.
With £130m invested, we seem to be very easy to play through. Currently, I do not see £130m worth of improvement.
Sometimes some of these players are rated highly over a season. We need to see consistency. signing a £75m player to sit alongside McTominay who is similar.I dont think hes worth anywhere near that. The point is he was exactly what you just asked.
This year we have 11 goals against so far and our keeper has made 32 saves. So we have conceded 43 shots against in 11 games which is good for 3.9 shots against per game. Last year we had 54 goals against and our keeper made 122 saves. So that's 176 shots against in 38 games which is good for 4.6 shots against per game. Our keeper last year was 7th in the league for saves made and the only other "big team" who had more saves was Arsenal. We have the 5th lowest goals against in the league this year (1 per game). Last year we had the 11th most goals against (1.4 per game). So to sum it up, yes our defense has improved. Significantly. The big difference is that last year our offense was pretty bad only scoring 1.7 goals per game. This year it is even worse scoring just under 1.2 goals per game...
Yes, our midfield is weakest part of the team, when it should be the heartbeat.Yes,the defence has improved, though it can get better.
What is the fundamental issue,though, is the play infront of them. The midfield currently is average and the forward players are annoyingly erratic.
It doesn't take much for the opposition to break through our midfield,leaving our defence somewhat exposed.