Well it is true. He barely made any mistakes and caught pretty much every cross. Part of the reason our defence was so good is that they were comfortable with him behind them.
This is a bad one for bar debates because if you're not a match going fan you can't really see a ton of the communication on TV. Right up there with wingers beating the fullbacks with little runs forward and back to either go past them or come short to get the ball with some room to operate and probably some other things I don't even know to watch for.
Umm, no they don't though.
Disagree with the bolded bit. He was brilliant at positioning and thus he made saves look easy where others would throw themselves about making it look spectacular.
What? Brilliant controling box. He had winners aura that spread around him. You could pretty much say every goalkeeper is worthless if you choose to take some moments in their career.
It’s not like Park had some incredible years at PSV before that, reaching a level of performances Lingard wasn’t able to replicate for more than 3-4 months (twice in his career).
I agree. Those out of the world saves he kept making could have been the difference between a trophy and 2nd place. Unfortunately we were never really competing for a major trophy.
Lingard has never been a better football player. And never Will be. Park in his prime could play in pretty much every club in world. His understanding for game was amazing. Passing, work rate, could play both attacking and defending equaly good. Underrated player. He was extremly professional.
He was incredible for South Korea as well being their main creative outlet.
I think it's a valid debate. If I had to choose a keeper over the course of whole season I would probably take VDS, if its a one game final with everything on the line I would go for Schmeichel. Both had amazing international careers as well, so it's pretty close and considering their body of work matter of preference imo (aggressive, formidable presence of Schmeichel as opposed to calming and composed style of VDS).
I said overrated. Again you still don't get what that means. People in here are calling him our best ever keeper.Umm, no they don't though.
So somehow in your mind 50% of our fan base think De Gea is worse than Henderson and think VDS is our best ever. Talk about random unsubstantiated statements to suit your ridiculous thread.
'Do you understand overrated'. Says the guy who bases his argument off a YT video showing less than 0.1% of the shots VDS faced during his time at United. Whilst ignoring every other facet of his game.
Overrated by who? The imaginary half of our fanbase that think Henderson is better than De Gea according to you? There's barely anyone that thinks that. Probably a similar number to those that think VDS is our best ever. You're living in lala land.
Think your guarantee is full of crap, just like you. I understand the role plenty. Can’t wait till ETH comes in and still keeps playing Dave, would love to get your insight then haha. Cya later, Shaggy.
I disagree. Schmeichel is one of the best ever and won us the league alongside Cantona in 96. If you’d chose VDS for a season over Schmeichel I’m glad you’re not United manager.
Like what did Lingard do that Park could only dream of? Maybe the goal vs Leicester in the community shield. But I m sure Park is happy knowing that he scored one of the most iconic counter attacking goals vs our rival in a champions league semi final, or that Pirlo dedicated a passage about him, rather than dreaming scoring in community shield.
Yep I think Schmeichel is on another level of goalkeeper to Van der Sar and De Gea, Schmeichel is in the best ever category whereas the other two are in the best of their generation category.
Agree. I'd still have Van Der Sar half a step ahead of De Gea, but I think Schmeichel was on a different tier.
I think the context in which we watch players, and our own personal circumstances at those times, colours our appraisal of them far more than we realise. If some people rate Edwin as our greatest keeper given the part he played in that ridiculously good team 15 or so years ago I'm not bothered enough to contradict them; he was the perfect man for that team at that time. As a complete package I certainly have him above De Gea, and he's up there with Schmeichel who even as an undisputed legend of the club is not beyond reproach on the terms you lay out in the OP (i.e. there is footage of Pete having poor games/making poor errors etc.).
Joining 20 and spending 10 seasons plus already that’s to be expected. But look at his best moments and over how long, literally 5 world class seasons, a dip in for 2 years then back to normal past 2 years and his first year he made mistakes but was mostly down to age and being new.
Well, likewise mate considering your 'nowhere close to Schmeichel' hyperbole.
this ^^^
The Leicester goal wasn’t even his best solo goal for us. He picked up the ball well into his own half against Watford and went past their defence to score, he’s put numerous goals into the top bins from outside the box and in an era where success has been limited, has scored in two of our last 3 successful finals, the winning goal in one of them. Park was not a top player by any stretch, and who gives a feck if he played well for PSV in Holland either? He was not some superstar of the Dutch league like others. He was a decent player, at the right time. He could never have done what Lingard did at West Ham last season.
He was never good on video.
Exactly! He could pull off a worldie out of nowhere. His PL debut match he made a point blank save from a header that was going in the opposite direction of his momentum.
I have no memory of runs of bad form. I remember him going through a spell of getting done with long rangers but he was still generally playing well. In fact, consistency is one of the key strengths I remember.
except he did all that and more for his national team for years. Park was a top player by any metric and only because he sacrificed himself for the team and to win did we have the success we did with him in the side.
