Oxfam sexual misconduct scandal involving aid workers in Haiti

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they did not disclose the information to the haitian government, uk government, european commission or any other governments that give them money and to whom they have to report these things
I've yet to see in any of the reporting point this out, I'm not aware there is a formal disclosure process

they also allowed the main executive at the center of it all to quietly resign and go work for another NGO where he did the same thing
You can't stop someone resigning, and as disciplinary investigations end with the resignation I'm not sure how you go about reporting someone who's guilty of nothing
 

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You can't stop someone resigning, and as disciplinary investigations end with the resignation I'm not sure how you go about reporting someone who's guilty of nothing
Times reported that, during Stocking's tenure, Oxfam allowed three men to resign and sacked four others for "gross misconduct" after an inquiry concerning sexual exploitation, the downloading of pornography, bullying, and intimidation by Oxfam's staff in Haiti.[11] The Timesstated that an internal, confidential report was produced by Oxfam in 2011. It found that there had been “a culture of impunity” among some staff in Haiti and concluded that "it cannot be ruled out that any of the prostitutes were under-aged."[11] Among the staff who were permitted by Oxfam's leadership to resign without further actions taken against them was the charity's country director, Roland van Hauwermeiren. According to Oxfam's internal report, van Hauwermeiren admitted using prostitutes at a villa whose rent was paid with Oxfam funds means for charity. Stocking, Oxfam's CEO at the time, offered Hauwermeiren “a phased and dignified exit” invoking her concern that sacking him risked “potentially serious implications for the charity’s work and reputation."

they broke local haitian laws and sex tourism laws in the uk and europe for which he should have been reported to authorities
 

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also, refer to that post for more details of the cover up
I don't trust the Telegraph reporting on this, there is an effort to destroy foreign aid spending on this country from the right win press. I belive they are making more of this than there is
 

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I don't trust the Telegraph reporting on this, there is an effort to destroy foreign aid spending on this country from the right win press. I belive they are making more of this than there is
all the information is coming from an internal oxfam report and employees who blew the whistle
 

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Times reported that, during Stocking's tenure, Oxfam allowed three men to resign and sacked four others for "gross misconduct" after an inquiry concerning sexual exploitation, the downloading of pornography, bullying, and intimidation by Oxfam's staff in Haiti.[11] The Timesstated that an internal, confidential report was produced by Oxfam in 2011. It found that there had been “a culture of impunity” among some staff in Haiti and concluded that "it cannot be ruled out that any of the prostitutes were under-aged."[11] Among the staff who were permitted by Oxfam's leadership to resign without further actions taken against them was the charity's country director, Roland van Hauwermeiren. According to Oxfam's internal report, van Hauwermeiren admitted using prostitutes at a villa whose rent was paid with Oxfam funds means for charity. Stocking, Oxfam's CEO at the time, offered Hauwermeiren “a phased and dignified exit” invoking her concern that sacking him risked “potentially serious implications for the charity’s work and reputation."

he broke local haitian laws and sex tourism laws in the uk and europe for which he should have been reported to authorities
Stocking isn't ceo and that blokes gone, so why burn the whole thing down?
 

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Stocking isn't ceo and that blokes gone, so why burn the whole thing down?
every subsequent ceo and executive remained silent

they also continued to cover up sexual abuse by management in other places, according to a former safeguarding officer at the charity

it needs to be burned to the ground because charities should not be run like this, let another better charity take its place and its funds
 

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all the information is coming from an internal oxfam report and employees who blew the whistle
Information yes, but that is separate from reporting. How you place emphasis on the information is where I lose trust with the telegraph
 

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Information yes, but that is separate from reporting. How you place emphasis on the information is where I lose trust with the telegraph
i only quoted the employee not the editiorialising, the times who originally broke the story also had the similar reporting, as do many left leaning outlets like the guardian, who reported on the pattern of behaviour
 

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every subsequent ceo and executive remained silent

they also continued to cover up sexual abuse by management in other places, according to a former safeguarding officer at the charity

it needs to be burned to the ground because charities should not be run like this, let another better charity take its place and its funds
Did they know and to whom were they meant to report? What disclosure process is there?
Since they have been firing people for these actions the question is why didn't they in some cases, that means reform is needed, not burning to the ground
 

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Did they know and to whom were they meant to report? What disclosure process is there?
Since they have been firing people for these actions the question is why didn't they in some cases, that means reform is needed, not burning to the ground
haitian police, uk police, swedish police etc. etc., a lot of police forces would have had interest in their bahviour

reform is not enough, reform is consequence free
 

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haitian police, uk police, swedish police etc. etc., a lot of police forces would have had interest in their bahviour

reform is not enough, reform is consequence free
The hatian police when? After an earthquake which had devastated their country? You think they would give a feck about prostitution at that time?

Swedish police, UK police would hae jurisdiction in Haiti?
 

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The hatian police when? After an earthquake which had devastated their country? You think they would give a feck about prostitution at that time?

Swedish police, UK police would hae jurisdiction in Haiti?
i don't know, but it's better than covering it up

sex tourism laws, like what got garry glitter
 

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i only quoted the employee not the editiorialising, the times who originally broke the story also had the similar reporting, as do many left leaning outlets like the guardian, who reported on the pattern of behaviour
The Times broke it and a lot of fuss has been made of it since by Government, I don't accept that Oxfam have been so awful that it needs burning to the ground
 

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i don't know, but it's better than covering it up

sex tourism laws, like what got garry glitter
But there wasn't a cover up, as people have been fired for this. There may have been some cases dealt worse than others, but that needs reform, your solution is stupid

They might end up reporting everything in the future, good luck to the copper that has to wade through that lot
 

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But there wasn't a cover up, as people have been fired for this. There may have been some cases dealt worse than others, but that needs reform, your solution is stupid
their own internal report said they covered it up

They might end up reporting everything in the future, good luck to the copper that has to wade through that lot
that's their job
 

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If people are being fired or resigning as consequence of investigation how is it protecting the top brass?
top brass were not fired, they were allowed to go get high level positions at other NGOs, von rapestick becoming running the bangladesh arm of a charity where he again ran brothels using charity money
 

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top brass were not fired, they were allowed to go get high level positions at other NGOs, von rapestick becoming running the bangladesh arm of a charity where he again ran brothels using charity money
Again how do you stop someone resigning? He may have been eased out but either way he could have resigned which would stop all investigations against him
 

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Again how do you stop someone resigning? He may have been eased out but either way he could have resigned which would stop all investigations against him
oxfam chose not to fire him, it is in their internal report, they gave a nice reference and got him a high level job elsewhere
 

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So the simple reform would be to make sure a channel is created for reporting this. Hardly a need to burn it to the ground
that is consequence free

"ugh, should we run a brothel"

"careful now, there might be another reform"

that's not enough

there needs to be an existential danger for organisations engaging in such behaviour
 

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oxfam chose not to fire him, it is in their internal report
Before you can fire you need an investigation, otherwise you'll break employment law. A resignation before a formal disciplinary process is how people have escaped many times. So where they ever in a position to fire him?
 

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Before you can fire you need an investigation, otherwise you'll break employment law. A resignation before a formal disciplinary process is how people have escaped many times. So where they ever in a position to fire him?
Stocking, Oxfam's CEO at the time, offered Hauwermeiren “a phased and dignified exit” invoking her concern that sacking him risked “potentially serious implications for the charity’s work and reputation."
when they did that instead of firing him
 

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Was that as a result of a disciplinary process? That to me seems more a result of a ceo wanting to avoid going through a formal disciplinary process
i don't know if you read the quote but the words "instead of sacking him" are in there, that was a legitimate, legal option the charity had