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Edgar Allan Pillow

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Completing my picks. Please continue to skip me as setting up new house is proving more troublesome that I even imagined.

Volodymyr Bezsonov
Anatoliy Demyanenko
Juan Alberto Schiaffino
Obdulio Varela
Néstor Gonçalves
Roberto Matosas
Rinat Dasayev


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EDDY JUKEZAncelottiLyonC. RonaldoL. ModricA. RobbenR. LewandowskiS. RamosR. VaraneG. ZambrottaT. KroosD. AlabaI. Casillas
ENIGMAHerreraFulhamB. MooreG. FacchettiT. BurgnichE. Van der SarG. BedinA. Di StefanoG. BestJ. SantamariaF. GentoL. Del Sol
BIG DUNKKeeganFiorentinaR. BaggioD. PassarellaP. VierchowodD. BeckhamA. ShearerDungaP. SchmeichelC. GentileP. ScholesB. Laudrup
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NMAllegriSampdoriaRonaldinhoA. NestaD. AlvesT. CerezoP. EvraKakaZ. IbrahimovicG. ChielliniE. OcwirkSkoglund
PROLIFIKBenitezChelseaR. GullitK. BenzemaM. DesaillyMarceloS. Eto’oX. AlonsoN. KanteMaiconR. AyalaP. Reina
ZLATANTuchelFlamengoRomarioT. SilvaZicoK. MbappeGersonZizinhoJ. KimmichLeandroA. AreolaJunior
SIRSCHOLESLuxemburgoInter MilanL. Suarez M.Z. ZidaneRivaldoCafuK.H. RummeniggeN. VidicC. SeedorfD. SimeoneA. PicchiR. Ferri
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PAT MUSTARDWengerFeyenoordL. ThuramA. ColeS. CampbellT. HenryD. BergkampP. VieiraP. CechM. OvermarsR. KoemanW.
Van Hanegem
P-NUTSacchiSpursV. BastenP. MaldiniA. CostacurtaG. BaleE. DavidsA. BennarivoF. BaresiD. GinolaK. WalkerP. Jennings
 

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its a boring draft for edgar(which pobably suits him considering) but he will end up with a great team, specially as non footage frauds are available
 

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its a boring draft for edgar(which pobably suits him considering) but he will end up with a great team, specially as non footage frauds are available
Aye. 3 (?) great Lobanovskiy teams and one of the most successful club sides of all time to choose from.


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Van Hanegem
P-NUTSacchiSpursV. BastenP. MaldiniA. CostacurtaG. BaleE. DavidsA. BennarivoF. BaresiD. GinolaK. WalkerP. Jennings
 

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I nominated Lobanovsky: an array of hard-working and complete footballers to choose from
 

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I haven't had time to do a proper deep dive, but many of players seems to have trouble adjusting outside his system. Kuznetsov, Belanov (won the Balon d'Or too!) but have absolutely bad reputation outside of their home. Sheva and Blokhin aside, was wondering if it's something with the overall Soviet playing style or just Lobanovski management?

@harms any thoughts?
 

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EDDY JUKEZAncelottiLyonC. RonaldoL. ModricA. RobbenR. LewandowskiS. RamosR. VaraneG. ZambrottaT. KroosD. AlabaI. CasillasCasemiro
ENIGMAHerreraFulhamB. MooreG. FacchettiT. BurgnichE. Van der SarG. BedinA. Di StefanoG. BestJ. SantamariaF. GentoL. Del SolF. Puskas
BIG DUNKKeeganFiorentinaR. BaggioD. PassarellaP. VierchowodD. BeckhamA. ShearerDungaP. SchmeichelC. GentileP. ScholesB. LaudrupS. Pearce
SJORIvicWest HamB. SchusterR. FerdinandM. AmorosJ. TiganaC. TevezP. ShiltonC. MozerP. FutreS. LerbyR. ProsineckiR. Krol
NMAllegriSampdoriaRonaldinhoA. NestaD. AlvesT. CerezoP. EvraKakaZ. IbrahimovicG. ChielliniE. OcwirkSkoglund
PROLIFIKBenitezChelseaR. GullitK. BenzemaM. DesaillyMarceloS. Eto’oX. AlonsoN. KanteMaiconR. AyalaP. Reina
ZLATANTuchelFlamengoRomarioT. SilvaZicoK. MbappeGersonZizinhoJ. KimmichLeandroA. AreolaJunior
SIRSCHOLESLuxemburgoInter MilanL. Suarez M.Z. ZidaneRivaldoCafuK.H. RummeniggeN. VidicC. SeedorfD. SimeoneA. PicchiR. Ferri
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HIMANNVvan GaalAtletico MadridF. RijkaardP. LahmB. SchweinsteigerJ. StamT. MullerL. SuarezF. de BoerW. RooneyXaviT. Courtois
EAPLobanovskyiPenarolE. FigueroaA. ShevchenkoO. BlokhinV. BezsonovA. DemyanenkoJA SchiaffinoO. VarelaN. GoncalvesR. MatosasR. Dasayev
MICHAELHeynckesMarseilleL. MatthäusJ. KohlerA. BrehmeF. RibéryF. RedondoG. WeahC. PanucciC. WaddleE. FrancescoliM. Neuer
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PAT MUSTARDWengerFeyenoordL. ThuramA. ColeS. CampbellT. HenryD. BergkampP. VieiraP. CechM. OvermarsR. KoemanW.
Van Hanegem
P-NUTSacchiSpursV. BastenP. MaldiniA. CostacurtaG. BaleE. DavidsA. BennarivoF. BaresiD. GinolaK. WalkerP. Jennings
 

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I haven't had time to do a proper deep dive, but many of players seems to have trouble adjusting outside his system. Kuznetsov, Belanov (won the Balon d'Or too!) but have absolutely bad reputation outside of their home. Sheva and Blokhin aside, was wondering if it's something with the overall Soviet playing style or just Lobanovski management?

@harms any thoughts?
Kuznetsov was unlucky. Did his cruciate in his second game after moving from Kyiv, despite already looking like a class act.


Out for a year after that, he was pretty much finished.
 

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EDDY JUKEZAncelottiLyonC. RonaldoL. ModricA. RobbenR. LewandowskiS. RamosR. VaraneG. ZambrottaT. KroosD. AlabaI. CasillasCasemiro
ENIGMAHerreraFulhamB. MooreG. FacchettiT. BurgnichE. Van der SarG. BedinA. Di StefanoG. BestJ. SantamariaF. GentoL. Del SolF. Puskas
BIG DUNKKeeganFiorentinaR. BaggioD. PassarellaP. VierchowodD. BeckhamA. ShearerDungaP. SchmeichelC. GentileP. ScholesB. LaudrupS. Pearce
SJORIvicWest HamB. SchusterR. FerdinandM. AmorosJ. TiganaC. TevezP. ShiltonC. MozerP. FutreS. LerbyR. ProsineckiR. Krol
NMAllegriSampdoriaRonaldinhoA. NestaD. AlvesT. CerezoP. EvraKakaZ. IbrahimovicG. ChielliniE. OcwirkSkoglundG. Gattuso
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ZLATANTuchelFlamengoRomarioT. SilvaZicoK. MbappeGersonZizinhoJ. KimmichLeandroA. AreolaJunior
SIRSCHOLESLuxemburgoInter MilanL. Suarez M.Z. ZidaneRivaldoCafuK.H. RummeniggeN. VidicC. SeedorfD. SimeoneA. PicchiR. Ferri
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I haven't had time to do a proper deep dive, but many of players seems to have trouble adjusting outside his system. Kuznetsov, Belanov (won the Balon d'Or too!) but have absolutely bad reputation outside of their home. Sheva and Blokhin aside, was wondering if it's something with the overall Soviet playing style or just Lobanovski management?

@harms any thoughts?
A lot of players from that first era (late 80s-90s) of being able to move abroad had a hard time adapting. I would say causes of it had been to a higher extent because of off-field issues, than footballing ones. The players that emerged mid80s-early90s in particular, were notorious for night-life loving wasted talents (after great youth and good early club results). many of the older 80s generation were just at the end of their prime, and retired/stepped down to lower-division levels within a few seasons. If you look at the communist countries generations of that time, you can see that the more closed-off or culturally distant from West/Southern Europe tended to have a larger amount of players that struggled.


Of the bigger name Dynamo Kyiv players that weren't obviously in decline when they moved:

Zavarov became well known in the Italian football media for poor effort in training...if you watch games from his 2nd season at juventus, he looks like he's put on 10-15 lbs from his Kyiv days.

Belanov was older at 29, and might have started to pick up injuries, or just been a simple footballing flop. After a season worth of football with Monchengladbach, he moved straight to the German lower-tiers and was said to be almost equally bad there, which says to me there's a good chance he was just genuinely washed up. imo he had the least technical talent of all these players, with the highest chance that he had been significantly elevated by Dynamo's system. Then again, Boniek did far better and his best traits were similar...pace, stamina, tactical intelligence, general off the ball qualities.

Mikhailichenko actually did very well at Sampdoria for the first half of the season, where his midfield class and versatility made a contribution to them winning the league. He faded massively after February, understandably so, as he'd been playing continually since March of previous year due to the seperate ussr league timetable. Promptly selling him seems very harsh, but Italian teams weren't lacking in money, and it was the foreigner rule days. Not at all uncommon for Serie A teams to sell theirs very quickly as soon as it seemed they were declining, or had a bad season. Even Matthaus couldn't avoid it. Don't know much about his time at Rangers, but i have read he developed a reputation for laziness there.

Protasov and Lytovchenko both did excellent individually until age/injuries took over by mid-90s, yet they had moved to a clearly weaker league -- one where any struggles adapting or laziness could be mitigated compared to Serie A or Bundesliga.
 

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EDDY JUKEZAncelottiLyonC. RonaldoL. ModricA. RobbenR. LewandowskiS. RamosR. VaraneG. ZambrottaT. KroosD. AlabaI. CasillasCasemiro
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@Himannv You're up.
Mikhailichenko actually did very well at Sampdoria for the first half of the season, where his midfield class and versatility made a contribution to them winning the league. He faded massively after February, understandably so, as he'd been playing continually since March of previous year due to the seperate ussr league timetable. Promptly selling him seems very harsh, but Italian teams weren't lacking in money, and it was the foreigner rule days. Not at all uncommon for Serie A teams to sell theirs very quickly as soon as it seemed they were declining, or had a bad season. Even Matthaus couldn't avoid it. Don't know much about his time at Rangers, but i have read he developed a reputation for laziness there.
Wasn't helped by being shunted out wide, as was the way at the time with any (relatively) light-weight creative in the British blood-and-guts 4-4-2.
 

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