It’s funny how for The lukaku one none black people were the first to take offence to it but then you have this one which been going on for years and the media never really highlighted it maybe if it was “ they make better tech than us in South Korea” then the middle aged white journalist would have been appalled by it from the day it was first sang.First Lukaku's massive penis and now this. Whatever next? Probably won't be able to sing about Vidic/Matic murdering people or some woke nonsense
Park Ji-Sung asks United fans to stop singing his chant
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it’s the rats i feel sorry for. no one is coming out and saying how they may live in sewers and feast on shit but they’d never be caught dead in liverpool.
Immediately thought of the brilliant Giggs-Joy Division chant only to realize that it’s completely spoilt now
Is Anderson still class with a brass i wonder?
But the next line is "could be worse".
And kimchi is delicious. And an important part of South Korean culture.
True, I get what you mean by the boring chants as well. You'd want your chants to be uplifting and energetic, and quite a few of our popular ensembles are just a massive groan. Mourinho chant was genuinely one of the worst - just sucked the energy out of me just listening to that shit.I tried to blank that out and now can’t remember it
Tbf most football chants are shit, it’s not unique to us, ours just seem disproportionately disliked by the players who got sung about.
still accurate tbf.Immediately thought of the brilliant Giggs-Joy Division chant only to realize that it’s completely spoilt now
Oh, absolutely. But spoilt
We need to look at the bigger picture here, Asian people suffer a lot because of racism ever since COVID-19 and we all know that eating dog meat is a taboo basically everywhere in the world.
You really can’t compare it with English people drinking tea.
It’s just banter. Nobody actually means any harm or disrespect with it.
I've never sung it.
It's a RACIST song.
what a way to honour our player...
It's a RACIST song.
what a way to honour our player...
But he feels disrespected.
I'm not sure you know what racist means.
It’s not racist.
Racist or not, xenophobic or not, its tasteless and offends jsp. It should stop.
Horrible chant. Very disrespectful and racist. Also shows the lack of knowledge about asian culture. Everybode knows that dogs are eaten in China not South Korea.
Aye, couldn't agree more. It has good associations obviously as it was such a great time to be a supporter, but the whole chant is distasteful as feck if we're honest. On the bolded part, that aspect never sat at all well with me either. Just a strange thing for fans of a 'working class sport' to use as a pejorative.
I mean, technically dog meat is still eaten in South Korea, hence why their president is trying to bring about a ban on the practice.
But it is a negative stereotype which ought not to be drawn upon so publicly for a laugh.
The Scouse-rat part you can get away with because it's so obviously nonsense.
But it is a negative stereotype which ought not to be drawn upon so publicly for a laugh.
The Scouse-rat part you can get away with because it's so obviously nonsense.
But………isn’t it a traditional practice in Korea to eat dog meat?
So how can it be offensive to state a fact?
I’m genuinely confused so by all means please educate me on why this is offensive/wrong to sing
So how can it be offensive to state a fact?
I’m genuinely confused so by all means please educate me on why this is offensive/wrong to sing
I’ve always thought it to be funny, but obviously it’s problematic.
Park, who we supposedly honour with this song (I’m assuming it’s not JUST a vehicle for shitting on Scousers), coming out and asking for it to stop should be the end of it. Somehow I’m not expecting that to be the case though :/
Park, who we supposedly honour with this song (I’m assuming it’s not JUST a vehicle for shitting on Scousers), coming out and asking for it to stop should be the end of it. Somehow I’m not expecting that to be the case though :/
They're eaten all over the world, but not exclusively to China in South-East Asia. Vietnam - particularly in the North - eats dog, and you will see it very publicly, as well as in Korea where there is a long tradition of the practice that is still carried out today.
It's a lot more emotive than that in fairness, and attitudes have shifted quite dramatically over there about eating dogs:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...elfare-attitudes-humane-society-b1426120.html
Can't be serious?
Yeah, it's in poor taste from start to finish.
How is it racist? Anyway, doesn’t that chant say scousers eat rats? Would think they should be more offended since dog actually is eaten in Korea.
It's not "offensive" in the way more obvious racial/xenophobic remarks are - it's just clearly a national image which causes embarrassment to the more cosmopolitan/international sections of the country.
That Park has made these comments a few days after South Korea's President has tried to bring a stop to the act is probably no surprise.
Let's hope so. If Park - unsurprisingly - finds the chant offensive that's good enough for me. And in any case we're trying to pay tribute to a great United player, not insult his friends and family.
Probably a good thing
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Exactly. Can remember Vidic having a similar issue with his chant.
If the person you're supposedly honouring doesn't like the way you're doing, just change it up.
The only appropriate response to this is:
Yes of course we will stop. No discussion, no moaning, just stop. Respect the mans wishes.
Yes of course we will stop. No discussion, no moaning, just stop. Respect the mans wishes.
Racists in this thread rattled
Always felt like an uncomfortable one and after the first few months I stopped joining in, even way back when. No problem with stopping.
You have just shown that same lack of knowledge as an estimated 1 million dogs are slaughtered every year in South Korea for human consumption.
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It's not just the fact that there are Koreans who eat dogs there making a chant about it is ok. Whenever someone is called a dog eater, it's never with nice intentions to say the very least so it's understandable with JSP would want the chant to stop
The chant was always weird to me as it doesn't even have anything remotely positive to say about Park.
What the feck does xenophobic mean?
Doubling down on the stupidity, I see. A bold move.
Surprised it’s taken this long. The worst thing about it is it’s not really about him. On top of being disrespectful to his homeland, it’s basically just another dig at scousers.
I mean, no one’s going to bother to come up with a new one for him in 2021, are they?
I mean, no one’s going to bother to come up with a new one for him in 2021, are they?
Displaying an aversion to something from another culture
Except it isn't made up and it's how the caf has reacted in the past when offensive chants have been discussed. Football fans are far too precious about the songs they've been taught to sing in stadiums.