He's young, has good moments but also lacks confidence other times. Being able to be a regular at 20 is good and for his first half season, has been fine. A lot more to come, and full backs especially can develop loads. But also he does look more a full back than a wing back for me.
Patrick Dorgu | 2024/25 Performances
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Oh please, I've seen Dorgu miss red shirts by a country mile on countless occasions when he's in acres of space and under zero pressure from the opposition.
Criticism of this guy so soon is moronic.
He has all the tools to do well here. He has steadily improved in the last few weeks.
He has all the tools to do well here. He has steadily improved in the last few weeks.
Feels like this has been said about loads of our players the past few years. I know I have said it a few times.
That's how we end up with Lindelof being a couple of years shy of a testimonial for us.
Need a LWB. He just needs to be an understudy for a while.
He was a decent and our best outlet in the first half. However his crossing and passing continue to be poor. He makes some ground with his running and then he gives the ball away with poor distribution, repeat, repeat
He did clear a decent header out and did okay against Neto defensively.
He did clear a decent header out and did okay against Neto defensively.
He might be the answer to your LWB spot but he at least improving going forward for me, getting into lots of good positions regularly and if any of or forwards could show more composure he’d have a fair few assists already.
Defensively he’s still suspect, his attempt on Neto when he tried to drag in down was a bit embarrassing.
Defensively he’s still suspect, his attempt on Neto when he tried to drag in down was a bit embarrassing.
Amorim recently stated we have the WBs for next season - if one of them is this clown then we are beyond fecked. He is utterly useless. What a buy.
Totally agree. There are much bigger issues than Dorgu. Was he signed to solve a problem- yes. Has he solved it - not yet. Has he made us worse - No.
Direct your vitriol elsewhere.
Ran the ball down the left and had some good movement to be available for his teammates to find him. Also did fine defensively against his winger
His passing and his crossing were poor. So the good work he would do down the left was eventually nullified by himself.
Thought he was ok in the first half, but second half he just went into rugby tackle mode every time he faced the attacker.
I think for a 20 year old he is very good. Raw but very athletic.
Good athlete, needs to work on his crossing
It is obvious that Dorgu and Dalot will be our WBs next season and hence it will be almost impossible to finish top 5.
If he does not show signs of improvement in a few years then patently, he should not stick around but you cannot right the lad off SO early. He was actually one of the better players tonight...not that that is saying too much mind
Please tell me he didn’t say that because the whole point of the system is that you have someone of the quality of a Frimpong or Evra or Cole to make it work.
He got a lot of the ball in the first half, but did anyone else feel that was sort of by Chelsea's design? I don't think they minded him getting it... Which you know, isn't a great reflection of your abilities
Yup... Dorgu in a nutshell currently.
He's a young lad, and he has all the right physical and attitude attributes.
But currently no where near the technical or creative level required to play the role he is in.
Gonna need a steep progression, or he is gonna be another one in the waste paper bin.
Actually think he would make a pretty decent traditional, overlapping LB where all his creativity would need to be is cut backs from the by line.
Probably will get a chance in the role shortly cos there is no way Ruben is seeing Xmas playing this system.
Would be most frustrating.
Decent game today. He's much quicker than i thought. He'll never be silky smooth on the ball but there's something t work with there. Maybe a manager can harness his qualities and turn in into a Dumfries-lite kind of player. That would be a good asset to have.
If Garnacho and Amad don't play as half our games as wing backs then I'm done with Amorim.
Amad, Dalot, Garnacho & Dorgu are a good set of wingbacks.
How often has Garnacho and Amad played as WBs this season?
It takes most players a while to settle in a new team, country, etc and especially true of most young players. If we'd judged Evra after six months... yikes. I'd give him a lot more time before rushing to judgment. He has the tools physically that we need and really lack. His composure on the ball needs to improve but I think it will with time and patience.
Anything to have a dig at the formation, hugh? ^^
I think, he was fine today. Seems to settle and didn't look out of place physically. He is obviously raw, no doubt and he maybe won't become a great technician but he is young, he is willing to run, willing to play, that puts him above a lot of other players for me.
I do agree he has improved , it says more about our squad that’s he’s a regular not him
I’m pretty sure people just don’t like him because he was signed by Amorim and he represents his system. Those people can feck off frankly.
He’s a headless chicken who plays in a key position in this system. AmoriM needs quality WBs to make this system work and we don’t have them. Simple as that, but he’s suggested recently we have them at the club already.
Yeah, I saw those quotes the other day. Worrying stuff. If that's how Amorim genuinely feels then there's no point keeping him on for next season. Another 38 games of Dorgu/Mazraoui/Dalot as our wide attacking outlets is not going to get us much higher in the table, regardless of a Cunha or a Delap signing. None of our wing backs can cross a ball ffs!
TBH we could have world class WBs in this system and it still wouldn’t work in the PL.
I can’t warm to him more down to his technical baseline and fundamentals looking below par. I also think it’s funny you say that, though, because I would imagine Dorgu would actually look much more comfortable as a conventional fullback with a wide attacker to overlap against
I don't rate him one bit and it's for non of the reasons you mentioned. Mostly because he can't pass or cross a football. Or go past anyone. Or defend properly
It'll be interesting to see how he does when we have a semi functional forward lineup (hopefully) next season.
I think he'll be a surprise positive.
I think he'll be a surprise positive.
1000%
Had some really impressive defensive runs late in the second half where he showed great top speed. Overall, works hard, is strong, is an outlet but lacks quality. Still only 20 in his first season in a dysfunctional team.
That's probably true, but it would still be nice to have a bit of hope that we'd score a goal when our wing backs dribble into the final third, instead of knowing the attack will inevitably break down when Dorgu or Mazraoui shape up for a cross.
I mean he can. Apparently people on here expect perfection from a 20 year old though.
No but from our starting WB which he shouldn't be. There is players like Frimpong and Davies out there and we spend 30 mill on a guy like that
He was one of our best players today, which doesn’t say much.
He is a young player in his first season in a new country, a more challenging league and in a struggling team. I think, he is doing just fine. And what exactly do you expect Amorim to say? Wouldn't you one of the first to complain when he would say something semi-critical?
Why do you think, he'd fare better as a fullback?
Yeah, pretty much.
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