We saw this in the Newcastle game when he quietened down Lewis Hall marauding runs more than a couple of times. Cunha will definitely drift position throughout the game so one of the 2 in the pivot should drop back to cover him and make it 3 man defence but only when Shaw decides to attack which wont be many. Just someone between midfield and defence have to be aware it and ready themselves if things go south.
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- Clean sheets
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- Goals
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In the latest edition of the United Hour Podcast, we interview Duncan Drasdo of MUST - covering ticket prices, new stadium, INEOS and what fans should be demanding from our club.
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looking forward to seeing what happens sunday.
Would say Dorgu is the sort of player we need at the moment though. Fit as a fiddle, works his arse off, improved so much bringing a much better technical game and now a goal threat.
Yeah Cunha is a good replacement, but doesn’t bring a lot of that. Let’s hope Fulham don’t pull out all the stops because we might miss Dorgu’s recent ability to grab a game by the scruff of the neck
i heard him compared to Park the other day and it does stand in principle; a versatile, defensive forward. Could see him being that sort of squad player. Not necessarily first choice, but he’s starting the biggest games like Arsenal away because we need to nullify someone like Saka.
Let’s hope Big Michael will give us some positive news.
Just said he will be out for a certain period. Not sure if that means weeks or that he starts on Sunday
From Carrick's wording and body language, it felt like Dorgu's definitely out for the next game, and possibly for a few more after that possibly.
Danish national coach just said he doesn't expect Dorgu ready for the World Cup qualifyer against North Macedonia 26th of March.
So that's at least 7 weeks out.
So that's at least 7 weeks out.
Injured out for most of the season just as his form picked up... a real travesty.
Here is something else for him as a long time doubter, though.
Here is something else for him as a long time doubter, though.
Such a disappointment. I know it's still only January 30 but the end of the season is not far off, but with the seriousness of this hamstring injury it's probably best to not even think about rushing him back for the last few matches in April and May.
What a month he's had, from being written off as a failed transfer to player of the month.
Sad he won't be able to build on this momentum
Sad he won't be able to build on this momentum
Had him in my FPL since GW1.
I think he’s going to go on to be a big player for us over next few years. Gutted for him.
What’s happening with Leon? Never seen him play but he was purchased based on very similar attributes Dorgu has.
I think he’s going to go on to be a big player for us over next few years. Gutted for him.
What’s happening with Leon? Never seen him play but he was purchased based on very similar attributes Dorgu has.
Gonna take something special to beat that as our goal of the season IMO. Cunha's is second
I think we missed him today. Cant wait to se him back in action.
I really miss this boy. He was quality before the injury, and there’s something genuinely humble about him, comes across as a really nice bloke. Can’t wait to see him back. Hopefully at the same level again.
Dorgu coming good was one of the best things of the season for me, and then it was like 'oh no, we're not allowed nice things'. But we're still doing well anyway, still smiling.
Any news on his recovery? It'll be over 4 weeks when we play next game, sure there must be some update when he's coming back?
Carrick said that we're still working through how long his absence will be. It was his hamstring, which can be a nightmare for footballers. It was also reported that he didn't just pull it, it was a torn hamstring with an estimate of 10 weeks for coming back. That is, if everything goes well because of the high risk of re-injury. You have to monitor the type and the intensity of training before bringing him back to full fitness.
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I'll be surprised if he plays again for the first team this seaason
I believe Carrick's communicating that we have no intention of rushing his return, which is the right thing to do. He didn't need an operation, so we're possibly talking about a Grade 1 or 2 tear, thus the 10-weeks estimate. But there's always the high risk of re-injury (for the first 12 months i think) while how the player feels about it should also be put into consideration. It's one of those injuries when the scan may show that the injury's healed, but the player may not feel it "quite alright" when he tries to push himself. And that can also prolong the absence.
That is very likely scenario apparently. Probably out for the season at this stage as a safe approach.
It's funny that one of the big criticisms of Amorim's formation was that Dorgu can't be the person you're giving the ball to in wide areas at the top end of the pitch in the hope that he does something impactful.
There was all this noise about the wrong players having the ball in attacking areas. Really weird that he becomes a forward and actually he's become pretty impactful as a bonafide attacking threat
(I suspect against a low block though, it may be a different story)
There was all this noise about the wrong players having the ball in attacking areas. Really weird that he becomes a forward and actually he's become pretty impactful as a bonafide attacking threat
(I suspect against a low block though, it may be a different story)
So will he be used mainly as a LW now?
It's funny that one of the big criticisms of Amorim's formation was that Dorgu can't be the person you're giving the ball to in wide areas at the top end of the pitch in the hope that he does something impactful.
There was all this noise about the wrong players having the ball in attacking areas. Really weird that he becomes a forward and actually he's become pretty impactful as a bonafide attacking threat
(I suspect against a low block though, it may be a different story)
He was getting the ball wide left in crossing positions. Hes scored goals as a winger by coming centrally to shoot from outside the box and by getting in the box. Your leftback doesnt do that.
The rate that his end product has increased since playing as a winger rather than as a leftback should have told you this, but now you've been told again
I’d be thinking after the international break . The danish coach doesn’t expect to have him for the 2 games at the end of March. We play on the 20th March and after that we don’t play until 11th April (Leeds)
What is this "out for the season" stuff? A hamstring injury?
I suppose you mean left-sided forward, which I see as different to a traditional winger, but I take the general point. He's getting more shooting chances inside the box. However, and this may be memory playing tricks on me, but I think even in wide positions, he's become much more assured.
Yeah I'd agree although its not just getting into the box. The goal against Arsenal he was narrow to play with Bruno and shoot from range. I think probably for 2 reasons, 1) He's playing as an attacker and getting on the scoresheet. Thats going to give an attacker confidence and 2) He knows his job is focused on attack and less about defending. While I'm sure we'd all say that his role was important at left wingback and that a good final ball is important... Well theres clearly been a change since playing as a winger, so I dont know if what we were hoping for was what was being asked of him by Amorim.
Yup - on the number 2, I agree that as the forward, he's probably more confident to take on players and carry the ball with some risk, knowing there's a full back behind him
For me hes clearly our left winger until he has a severe drop in end product
He'd have to have a barren spell where he isnt creating or scoring goals for 10+ matches before I start to doubt him again. I dont know what people are expecting from a 21 year old beyond what hes already done in his first 4 games playing the position. He has scored against Arsenal and City and he set up a goal against Burnley. I'm not sure that even expensive signings would provide as much, Cunha is a good example of that.
He'd have to have a barren spell where he isnt creating or scoring goals for 10+ matches before I start to doubt him again. I dont know what people are expecting from a 21 year old beyond what hes already done in his first 4 games playing the position. He has scored against Arsenal and City and he set up a goal against Burnley. I'm not sure that even expensive signings would provide as much, Cunha is a good example of that.
We look so much less threatening without him in the squad. Cunha is good but he has a completely different playstyle to Dorgu and I feel that is something we are really missing right now.
Let's hope he's back for the Villa match. We play Palace on Sunday, then Newcastle away on Wednesday and then we're not playing until the 15th at home to Villa.
Missing him a lot right now in the LW position. I hope we can use the long break after the Newcastle match to our advantage here.
We do look so much less threatening indeed. He is a single player in the squad with that directness AND athletism, that alone puts him ahead of defenders in many situations.
Take Amad for example, he's in bad form now so those problems are magnified, but he never seems to get ahead of the fullback, at least not comfortably. Opposition tends now to push him out wide where he doesn't have the speed to get in the race for 20-25 yards. With Dorgu on the left, it's 50/50 and he will at the very least sometimes out-pace/out-muscle his way to the box. Amad is caught too easily because despite the great footwork, he will be caught by defender in a race. Mbuemo looks a similar type to me, don't expect him to toast a fullback.
That bolded part is a very interesting statement. He did have a great productivity period recently, but I do agree that even outside of that he brings so much to the general play that for me he always gets the nod on LW as long as he's fit. I also do like our shape much better with him as left winger than Cunha.
We miss him a lot, currently we arent a great side on the ball and he's one of our best players off the ball.