[Borys]

I'm confused. Why is he the only attacker allowed to make runs and, in general, attack? Everyone else seems to be solving complex mathematical equations when they receive the ball.

 

[zenith]

After 60 minutes of dealing with cunha and his general shithousery, the last thing an opponent would want see is a Dorgu running full pelt and creating havoc with defence.

Finally, we seem to have a complimentary LW profiles.

 

[Apokalips]

We're finished if that's the case. We need a specialist lw. There are actually good teams in the CL and we're going to struggle badly if that's what we show up with.

Agreed, he should be nurtured as a FB and play like Hakimi. He can act as cover at LW/RW but he should be an attacking full back for us IMO. Shaw is steady but doesn't offer a great deal going forward and we need a true quality attacker on the left that keeps full backs guessing and has superior technical ability to Dorgu.

 

[Frank White]

After 60 minutes of dealing with cunha and his general shithousery, the last thing an opponent would want see is a Dorgu running full pelt and creating havoc with defence.

Finally, we seem to have a complimentary LW profiles.

You say it like it's hard. You don't even notice Cunha for 90% of the game. Won't judge Dorgu too much considering what he's coming back from but he'll be at least a decent back up but we need a LW next season.

 

[Lyng]

Dorgu is constantly asking questions of the opposition fullbacks. Relentlessly pressing and running. Not a coincidence our attack became more threatening after he came on.

 

[McLvnsMuse]

Good tactical option but im not buying him and Cunha as our left wing options.

 

[Red & White]

Did well when he came on. So refreshing to see a winger try and beat the opposition full back. Amad and Mbeumo haven’t given us much of that in the last few months. Cunha can pass players with the ball but he’s got a different style, of course.

 

[Zico1982]

Well take a look at his lw stats. It IS a small sample, but it is really good, and mostly played against very strong competition. If you can shine as a winger against Arsenak and City, you will probably be quite good at it overall. He needed 10-15 minutes to shake away the rust today. After that he was really good, and hebwasv clearly our strongest asset aswefinally came alive in the last 10 minutes. He is in my opinion the best winger in the squad right now.

 

[BorisManUtd]

Unlike others, he was interesting to watch. Nice cameo, hopefully he'll play vs Forest and Brighton as well.

 

[Wing Attack Plan R]

Well take a look at his lw stats. It IS a small sample, but it is really good, and mostly played against very strong competition. If you can shine as a winger against Arsenak and City, you will probably be quite good at it overall. He needed 10-15 minutes to shake away the rust today. After that he was really good, and hebwasv clearly our strongest asset aswefinally came alive in the last 10 minutes. He is in my opinion the best winger in the squad right now.

He’s the only actual winger in the squad. Amad can play wide, he’s the only other player that could be called a winger, but even then I’d call him an inverted forward. Maybe he can burn in the last two games, but I still think we need 2 actual wingers signed.

 

[Borys]

He’s the only actual winger in the squad. Amad can play wide, he’s the only other player that could be called a winger, but even then I’d call him an inverted forward. Maybe he can burn in the last two games, but I still think we need 2 actual wingers signed.

Yeps. By nature he's the only player suited to being an actual winger. Amad is more like inverted fullback playing winger, and Mbuemo is... not sure what exactly.

I still see a (specific type of) winger in Amad, Mbuemo is a real mystery for me though.

 

[Zico1982]

Mbeumo is what the germans call an "Aussenstürmer" like a hybrid between winger and striker, much like Rashford, Garnacho or Antony. There are lots of them. Right now its Dorgu left, Cunha in the middle (until Sesko is fit) and Mbeumo right for me. Dorgus defensive work makes life easier for Shaw as well, as we dont get run over on our left side when he is playing. Amad is not playing well at the moment and should be out of the starting formation until he finds his form again. Same goes for Mbeumo, but we need one of them, and Lacey is not there yet. I saw him for the U21, and he reminded me of Garnacho, ignoring better placed players to dribble and shoot himself in stupid positions. He can cross the ball though, when he finally does.

 

[erlichbachman]

Two games in a row our entire team loses any brain or sense of playing football when he comes on in second half, they ignore absolutely everything on the pitch and just keep passing the ball for him into space to run into even when there is no space and even when no one from our players is anywhere near close to play one two or be ready for back pass.

I get the tactics because he is quite quick, but he is not prime Gareth Bale, I bet we misplaced most passes that were heading to him in last two games, even though some went well and he created one or two half chances.

 

[Garethw]

I love his directness. Shane he’s so technically limited, but I’d be playing him over our other wingers at the moment.

 

[Lyng]

Two games in a row our entire team loses any brain or sense of playing football when he comes on in second half, they ignore absolutely everything on the pitch and just keep passing the ball for him into space to run into even when there is no space and even when no one from our players is anywhere near close to play one two or be ready for back pass.

I get the tactics because he is quite quick, but he is not prime Gareth Bale, I bet we misplaced most passes that were heading to him in last two games, even though some went well and he created one or two half chances.

This is probably the weirdest critique of a player I have read on here. So its his fault when his team mates missplace passes?

 

[Bobby_2024]

Dorgu is now looking like more of a forward player on LW, wondering if we can keep Shaw for another year as a back up LB?

 

[Hammondo]

Dorgu is now looking like more of a forward player on LW, wondering if we can keep Shaw for another year as a back up LB?

Yea I think in recent years it's really highlighted how few players are coming through the youth system. We are so thin in some ways.

 

[gottho]

If you put him at 30 million pounds on the market, he will be snapped up immediately. He offers some balance to team as he tracks back with defending

 

[erlichbachman]

This is probably the weirdest critique of a player I have read on here. So its his fault when his team mates missplace passes?

While I understand I posted that in his thread, nowhere did I criticise him, it was aimed at rest of the team and our tactics when we bring him on.

 

[Lu Tze]

I still think it's a mistake to move him forward. We seem to potentially be operating under the mistaken assumption that LB's can't be great offensively - when actually that's basically the main quality needed for an absolute top level FB these days (see: Hakimi, Mendes, and in the recent past Marcelo). He has the potential to be a 10/10 difference maker as a LB or a Valencia style powerhouse winger - I know which one I prefer.

 

[McLvnsMuse]

He should prioritize learning the fullback role. Any cameo at LW should be based on occasional tactical adjustments, and the game state.

The instagram shooting drill videos are nice but please spend the summer training how to pass, receive and shield to navigate tight traps on the edge of the field. Practice 1v1 defending.

 

[Silas]

I still think it's a mistake to move him forward. We seem to potentially be operating under the mistaken assumption that LB's can't be great offensively - when actually that's basically the main quality needed for an absolute top level FB these days (see: Hakimi, Mendes, and in the recent past Marcelo). He has the potential to be a 10/10 difference maker as a LB or a Valencia style powerhouse winger - I know which one I prefer.

Agreed. I still think that's eventually where he'll end up shining, but we'll see. If reports are true, we're gonna be bringing in a LB this summer, so might be a while before we see it tried out.

 

[Apokalips]

I still think it's a mistake to move him forward. We seem to potentially be operating under the mistaken assumption that LB's can't be great offensively - when actually that's basically the main quality needed for an absolute top level FB these days (see: Hakimi, Mendes, and in the recent past Marcelo). He has the potential to be a 10/10 difference maker as a LB or a Valencia style powerhouse winger - I know which one I prefer.

Fully agree he needs to be trying to be a Mendes or Hakimi, he is not refined enough to be our primary wing option despite a few hot games. He finds himself in great areas similar to them and I think he would be a much more dangerous asset from FB.

 

[Olecurls99]

Fully agree he needs to be trying to be a Mendes or Hakimi, he is not refined enough to be our primary wing option despite a few hot games. He finds himself in great areas similar to them and I think he would be a much more dangerous asset from FB.

Fully agree. He could possibly play as a shift winger but no more. His future has to be as an all action left full.

 

[Teja]

Just stick him at LB the next two. Don't really see him as a LW option really.

Will let Cunha do his thing off the left.

 

[Dominos]

I think him playing left wing will turn out temporary as we realise he's just not quite talented enough to play in an attacking position for the level we want to be, and will be moved back to left back in time.

The question is, what is the right move in the summer, if limited funds dictate we can only sign either a LW or a LB?

If we sign a LW, Dorgu competes for LB spot with Shaw. If we sign a LB, Dorgu compete for LW spot with Cunha.

Personally, I'd sign a left back, and try get by with Cunha/Dorgu on the wing for another season. Then, in 2027 when Shaw leaves, we have the option to move Dorgu back to compete at left back, and bring in a new winger.

 

[Red00012]

Good tactical option but im not buying him and Cunha as our left wing options.

As opposed to Mbeumo and Amad on the right?

 

[Big Ron’s Coat]

Fully agree he needs to be trying to be a Mendes or Hakimi, he is not refined enough to be our primary wing option despite a few hot games. He finds himself in great areas similar to them and I think he would be a much more dangerous asset from FB.

Yep. We should at least be giving him the opportunity next season instead of buying a LB this summer. Seems extremely daft as we know our RB options aren’t good enough. At least there is serious potential with Dorgu on the other side. Shaw and Mazraoui provide plenty of cover there as well. I don’t get it.

 

[McLvnsMuse]

As opposed to Mbeumo and Amad on the right?

I must have missed my own white text. Are we still talking about the wing Dorgu primarily plays on?

 

[amolbhatia50k]

I must have missed my own white text. Are we still talking about the wing Dorgu primarily plays on?

I think he means that even our options on the right look unconvincing. Mbeumo started well but he looks bang average on the ball for a winger. Amad has been terrible in the 2nd half of the season and won’t make it unless he becomes clinical.

Honestly I still the think the jury is out on all our summer signings even if they have all impressed at different stages of the season.

 

[McLvnsMuse]

I think he means that even our options on the right look unconvincing. Mbeumo started well but he looks bang average on the ball for a winger. Amad has been terrible in the 2nd half of the season and won’t make it unless he becomes clinical.

Honestly I still the think the jury is out on all our summer signings even if they have all impressed at different stages of the season.

They got us there in the end I guess. 3rd best of a very mid bunch.

 

[Olecurls99]

I think him playing left wing will turn out temporary as we realise he's just not quite talented enough to play in an attacking position for the level we want to be, and will be moved back to left back in time.

The question is, what is the right move in the summer, if limited funds dictate we can only sign either a LW or a LB?

If we sign a LW, Dorgu competes for LB spot with Shaw. If we sign a LB, Dorgu compete for LW spot with Cunha.

Personally, I'd sign a left back, and try get by with Cunha/Dorgu on the wing for another season. Then, in 2027 when Shaw leaves, we have the option to move Dorgu back to compete at left back, and bring in a new winger.

If we want him to play left back then we should just get started with it. Sign a young left winger to compete with Cunha and replace Shaw with a young left back next year, hopefully after Dorgu and Cunha have become a serious left sided force.

 

[V.O.]

Well deserved. Hell of a hit.

 

[Shark]

Well deserved. Hell of a hit.

Was between that and Cunha's goal in the same game for me, two incredible hits!

 

[jesperjaap]

I still think it's a mistake to move him forward. We seem to potentially be operating under the mistaken assumption that LB's can't be great offensively - when actually that's basically the main quality needed for an absolute top level FB these days (see: Hakimi, Mendes, and in the recent past Marcelo). He has the potential to be a 10/10 difference maker as a LB or a Valencia style powerhouse winger - I know which one I prefer.

I agree, hes done very well at lw. When i read profile of players many want us to sign for lb...feels lije they are describing dorgu though.
I actually think he could solve our problems at rb. Up and down the pitch supporting the winger but also coming inside both finding and also creating space...sure he played there for lecce sonetimes when watched them.
As a winger his pace, energy and directness causes problems...just dont see the crossing or link up play getting to a level consistently over a season for him tp be converted like bale was as an obvious example

 

[Gabriel Djemba-Bebe]

Still doesn't look fit to me.

 

[RedStarUnited]

Really poor player technique wise. I dont care if he just came back from injury, he was the same before it.

 

[Rozay]

Still doesn't look fit to me.

Still doesn’t look good enough to me.

 

[Globule]

Looked rusty, but let's not forget that he hasn't really cemented himself as a player good enough for us just yet.

He did look like he was starting to find his feet when Carrick first took over and that momentum was lost with his injury, but we can't ignore his earlier performances.

 

[DWelbz19]

Never a wide attacker.