NinjaFletch
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Let's hope it is a blip. If it's not, then it's worrying as feck.
This mood seems to coincide when not one of our attacking players seems to make a run nor be able to control a football adequately.Reverted back to his old self.
Pointless player when he’s in that mood. For some reason he thinks the best way forward is to start dribbling in his own half and trying to beat all 11 players rather than playing the simple pass.
Nothing was right with that performance, he didn’t even occupy the left side where he’s been so dangerous lately.
He will only have those performances when he is playing as an attacking midfielder and not a central midfielder.To be the best midfielder in the world, you need to have a consistent low cap. Even at your worst, you should be hitting 7/10s during a poor run of form. Pogba fluctuates from 10/10 to 2/10 with no warning - frequently. The first half today was a throwback to the Mourinho era where he apparenty didn't give a feck. Created nothing, gave the ball away too often, couldn't find the right pass, didn't track back, looked like he didn't care. Worrying mentality.
He will have a blinder soon, and look invincible - but he really needs to start being more consistent.
That's when he's the worst. Dilly dallying on the ball, not passing when he should, trying to make everything by himself. And his demenaour wasnt at all right.Fecking dreadful. He's gone back to overcomplicating things again when he should make the simple passes and move into space. Instead he's trying to do too much and inevitably messes up.
Sort it out Paul.
Agreed. The lack of movement and link-up play from Martial, Rashford and Lingard stifled him. He can find the through ball only if someone is making a run into space, and he can drive forward only if the defenders are being drawn out by the forwards' movement.This mood seems to coincide when not one of our attacking players seems to make a run nor be able to control a football adequately.
Creative players need players on their wavelength, Pogba looked fantastic with Mbappe in the World Cup and when Rashford is on top form.
Pogba's never been one to pull a team up, but he shines when things are going well. De Bruyne's the same. Silva makes them tick, De Bruyne adds the gloss. Matic is piss poor and Herrera wasn't good today.
We rely on Pogba to make us tick and add the gloss.
This mood seems to coincide when not one of our attacking players seems to make a run nor be able to control a football adequately.
Creative players need players on their wavelength, Pogba looked fantastic with Mbappe in the World Cup and when Rashford is on top form.
Pogba's never been one to pull a team up, but he shines when things are going well. De Bruyne's the same. Silva makes them tick, De Bruyne adds the gloss. Matic is piss poor and Herrera wasn't good today.
We rely on Pogba to make us tick and add the gloss.
The moment he is called on to play as a cm and not AM, he goes way below the levels he shows as AM.Has been quite poor in the last few games. He's wanting to do too much when we either go a goal down or come up against defensive teams.
There has never been a time when he doesn't overcomplicate things. Even when he drops a 10/10 there are clips during those games when he does too much. I think I've just come to accept that's a part of his game.Fecking dreadful. He's gone back to overcomplicating things again when he should make the simple passes and move into space. Instead he's trying to do too much and inevitably messes up.
Sort it out Paul.
True. Put Pogba in the Barca midfield or in the PSG midfield, and he'll look Zidane's second coming despite his inconsistencies. We need to build the team around him, ease the burden off his shoulders - but our recruitment so far has not helped his cause.I'm sure he'll get slaughtered but his job of being sole creator is a tough one, I watched Barca the other night and all of their midfield 3 and all of their front 3 were creative in their use of the ball, meanwhile he has it pretty much all on his shoulders as Ander keeps it safe and Matic goes blundering around thinking he's Redondo, meanwhile our forwards are better moving off the ball than creating, bar Martial who is usually best when running with it.
If you are closed down wise thing to do is to pass it. It isn't Italian football where he will beat -3 players at a time .the treatment he's getting is not acceptable. two of their players got carded for tactical fouls and probably more shouldve. how long must he fend off 3 players before getting awarded foul? ole must scare off the refs and call for protection to given. absolute joke.
The role he played today isnt any different to the role he has played since Ole's arrival. He just tried to do too much.The moment he is called on to play as a cm and not AM, he goes way below the levels he shows as AM.
Pogba can definitely turn it on, but boy, when he disappears, he's more useless than Djemba Djemba. You can't ever be top class without consistency. We need to either buy better players to help him, or ship him off and build a system that isn't dependent on a temperamental show pony deciding he feels like playing football on the day.
He’s a luxury player who does not turn up when the opposing team is up for it.Nah, the rest were shit today as well there’s no excusing them but he stopped doing the simple/right thing and took it upon himself to dribble and lose the ball at almost every opportunity.
The lot of them were shite but Pogba was the most frustrating because his feck up’s were completely needless.
I think its different, he is no where around the box since Liverpool tie.The role he played today isnt any different to the role he has played since Ole's arrival. He just tried to do too much.
That is true but how does a coach tell him to stop overcomplicating things with the ball all game? he struggles with knowing when to dictate tempo at certain phases of the pitch. At this level it shouldn't be difficult to know when to dribble out of trouble and when to release the ball quickly.I'm sure he'll get slaughtered but his job of being sole creator is a tough one, I watched Barca the other night and all of their midfield 3 and all of their front 3 were creative in their use of the ball, meanwhile he has it pretty much all on his shoulders as Ander keeps it safe and Matic goes blundering around thinking he's Redondo, meanwhile our forwards are better moving off the ball than creating, bar Martial who is usually best when running with it.
I just go back to his Juve days when Pirlo knew how and when to feed him the ball, someone that could control the game and let Pogba focus on what he does best, instead we have Ander going backwards or sideways a lot of the time, or Matic trying Hollywood passes or bursting runs that bypass him and go nowhere, the balance is off.True. Put Pogba in the Barca midfield or in the PSG midfield, and he'll look Zidane's second coming despite his inconsistencies. We need to build the team around him, ease the burden off his shoulders - but our recruitment so far has not helped his cause.
See, this is where I have to disagree with you. His fecks ups come when he is trying stuff because others are doing absolutely jackshite.Nah, the rest were shit today as well there’s no excusing them but he stopped doing the simple/right thing and took it upon himself to dribble and lose the ball at almost every opportunity.
The lot of them were shite but Pogba was the most frustrating because his feck up’s were completely needless.
I think a lot of that could be solved with 2 things, better movement ahead so there is someone to release it too quickly, and another player to create so he didn't feel like he has to make something happen every time he gets the ball because if he doesn't, nobody else will.That is true but how does a coach tell him to stop overcomplicating things with the ball all game? he struggles with knowing when to dictate tempo at certain phases of the pitch. At this level it shouldn't be difficult to know when to dribble out of trouble and when to release the ball quickly.
no it's not. he's getting targeted with deliberate fouls just like the City players were and after pep called the refs they started giving everything. there's zero protection and it must be addressed asap.If you are closed down wise thing to do is to pass it. It isn't Italian football where he will brat 2-3 players at a time .
Definitely not different but we'll agree to disagree.I think its different, he is no where around the box since Liverpool tie.
I'll say it again. It isn't Italian football. Adapt or get owned. Demanding protection will make no sense.no it's not. he's getting targeted with deliberate fouls just like the City players were and after pep called the refs they started giving everything. there's zero protection and it must be addressed asap.
He's the least player in the squad who needs a rest considering last 3 weeks he only played one game a week. He didn't play in PSG game. He got enough rest in between games.Looks knackered and needs a rest. Also needs a quick DM behind him like Kante.