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Paul Pogba 2019-20 Performances

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  1. Sep 5, 2019

    JPRouve can't stop thinking about balls - NOT deflategate Scout

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    Pretty much and if people don't want that type of midfielders it should be totally fine, they just don't need to make up some nonsense argument. Pogba has never been a complete midfielder, he has never been a game manager that plays it simple and make things tick. He is a player that can provide a spark at any moment and he does it often enough, I said it before and I will always say it, Pogba is the definition of a luxury player. I don't say it as a criticism because I like these players but they are not the backbone of your team, they are the difference between a good and a great team while having little effect on a poor team.

    The issue with that type of players is that they rely a lot on their teammates to exploit what they create which requires a certain level of ability. And sometimes it simply doesn't work, just look at Veron or a better playmaker like Riquelme.
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    roonster09 Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018 Scout

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    Team carrying him? Or he is carrying his midfield partner as they can't pass the ball for more than 10 yards.

    He was star player of a top club before he moved to ManUtd. Yes, at Juventus he was star player. Their most important? Don't think any midfielder was the most important player of any team, usually it's the attackers.
  3. Sep 5, 2019

    Jeppers7 Full Member

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    Bingo
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    roonster09 Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018 Scout

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    Exactly. What I don't understand is, how can anyone watch him play and don't see his strengths and what kind of player he is.

    People think "pogba thinks he is too good to do defensive work", the way I see it, he just lacks the awareness and always few steps late. It doesn't come naturally for him as he is attack oriented player.

    Like I said, people expect him to be the player he isn't and never will be and then use that as a baseline to criticize him.
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    Jeppers7 Full Member

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    [QUOTE="Jimmy_Bond, post: 24663648, member: 118332"]I disagree that Kante's attacking game is poor. Obviously it's outweighed by his defensive game, but it's certainly good enough that he can join attacks and contribute positively whilst scoring the odd goal. Pogba's defensive game is so inexistent it makes him a liability defensively. Pogba is better going forward, but he's still not exactly good enough to compensate for the inadequacies in other aspects of his game. He's not the kind of player to whom you say "you just stay up top and don't worry about getting back because you provide so much magic and so many goals and assists."

    He's a central midfielder. In my opinion his all around game is nowhere near good enough to put him amongst the world's best in that position. He's a bit of an anomaly. He isn't quite good enough at his main strength to justify the team carrying him, and his inability to do other sides of the game that a central midfielder generally does stop him from being incredibly influential in games. He should be developing the other sides of his game to make himself more complete. He doesn't seem to be doing this. It appears to me that his attitude is "this is what I'm good at, if you ask me to do the other stuff I'll do it but I'll do it badly as I'm not good at it."

    I don't think he'll ever be the star player of a top club, nor be indispensable. If we're happy to say we overpaid and expected too much for him and therefor lower expectations, then fine. But I'm not willing to accept that he's some misused superstar who would be starring in a different team.[/QUOTE]

    :rolleyes:

    His attacking game is no better than Pogba's defensive game, because as much as you won't like to see it, Pogba does contribute defensively.
  6. Sep 5, 2019

    Jimmy_Bond Full Member

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    No he wasn't.
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    Jimmy_Bond Full Member

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    Thanks for the input!
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    roonster09 Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018 Scout

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    He was, along with Dybala.
  9. Sep 5, 2019

    Cassidy No longer at risk of being mistaken for a Scouser

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    This is quite true, his defensive stats are better than our so called defensive midfielder :lol:
    They are not great though but we would look much better with an actual DM
  10. Sep 5, 2019

    Jimmy_Bond Full Member

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    I'd say Pirlo personally, but again, game of opinions. I'm a bit bored of going around in circles now. We have different opinions on the player. That's fine. I'm sure we both share the hope that his performances improve, and if he does leave in the summer, he leaves on a high.
  11. Sep 5, 2019

    izzydiggler Full Member

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    The only thing you need to do is watch De Bruyne and Pogba play. One is clearly world class...the other I and many others would say absolutely not.

    Pogba doesn't even stand out against Wolves, Southampton, Palace, Huddersfield and Cardiff...to compare him in any way to De Bruyne is just wrong.

    But it's his team mates, he needs several world class players around him to look good, he tries too hard, it's the manager...now it's another manager...blah, blah, blah.
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    roonster09 Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018 Scout

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    Pirlo wasn't even playing for Juventus in 2015-16 season. Pogba and Dybala made Serie A team of the season among their midfielders and attackers.
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    roonster09 Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018 Scout

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    Sure, for the first time I will watch Pogba and KdB play :lol:
  14. Sep 5, 2019

    abdo99 Full Member

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    That's not what world class means. World Class are all players that can play for any team in the world. If Pogba wants to leave he will have the pick of the biggest clubs to choose from. After Eden Hazard left Pogba is the only World Class player left in a mediocre team and in the whole world.
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  15. Sep 5, 2019

    Adam-Utd Part of first caf team to complete Destiny raid

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    Ugh, it's enough to bang your head against the wall.


    :boring: stupid statements like this are what completely ruin your arguement.
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    izzydiggler Full Member

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    I should clarify, I meant stand out in a good way. If you think he did, then can I have some of what you're smoking?
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    Full bodied red Full Member

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    Agreed....

    He does stand out - but for absolutely the wrong reasons.
  18. Sep 5, 2019

    fergiesarmy1 Full Member

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    So we are in agreement Pogba isn’t suited playing here.
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    roonster09 Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018 Scout

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    Playing where?
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    fergiesarmy1 Full Member

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    Doesn’t seem to be matter, he’s played most positions across the midfield without great success for us.
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    Majima Full Member

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    That's not what he said at all. Seriously...
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    TsuWave Full Member

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    is that what you took from that post? weird
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    fergiesarmy1 Full Member

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    The other plays for defensive managers (assuming he’s not including Ole in that)
    Pogba plays for a static team
  24. Sep 6, 2019

    In Rainbows Full Member

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    Well you say that, but he was one of our 3 best players last season.
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    Yagami Full Member

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    He doesn't bring a circus, though.

    The weirdos who have a problem with his lifestyle are their own problem.
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    roonster09 Correctly predicted France to win World Cup 2018 Scout

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    Ok.
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    Hawks2008 Full Member

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    Going by some comments it seems some would rather a limited clogger than Paul Pogba.

    As long as they do the headless chicken act and have some pashun eh?
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    Coops73 Full Member

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    Looking forward to his next interview while on international duty.
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    Twingatz New Member

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    This. I feel that people don't realize his role with France and with Juventus and the reason why Real want him. He adds quality to a team that already has quality. He is not a player that is going to fix problems in a struggling team like ours.
  30. Sep 6, 2019

    fergiesarmy1 Full Member

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    He’s pulled a sicky so his brother has already stepped up with some more crap saying he is going to have put some effort in or something now....
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    fergiesarmy1 Full Member

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    Just his brother in the press last couple of days, I’m sure his agent is priming something up to destabilise things for the next window.

    If he wasn’t injured I’m sure we would have got some misinterpreted crap out of him.
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    fergiesarmy1 Full Member

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    I would expect the worlds most expensive midfielder to be at least in that bracket as he is so good and the rest are crap according to Pogba’s army of admirers.
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    GM K Full Member

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    Like I said before, four seasons after, we are still here debating where Pogba should play, which tactics will best fit him and who should play or not play with him. That says it all.
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    Posh Red Full Member

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    We have the same debate about a few of our players though. Rashford, Martial, Lingard etc. I’d say it says more about the way the team has been managed rather than individual players.
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    In Rainbows Full Member

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    Great, so we should work on our weaker members first.
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    fergiesarmy1 Full Member

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    Or someone that can help the team more than Pogba does especially as they are just dragging him down to their level apparently.
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    In Rainbows Full Member

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    Nah, I would rather not have a 1 man midfield, and instead build up an entire midfield worth of class players. I don't want 1 midfielder to carry the midfield, it's such an odd view. Who does that?
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    fergiesarmy1 Full Member

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    Just people that don’t believe Pogba is the solution and also what’s the point in building around him when he is 99% going to leave in the summer.
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    In Rainbows Full Member

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    Except it's not building around him, just like for example buying a RW isn't building around AWB, or buying Maguire isn't building around Lindelof.
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    fergiesarmy1 Full Member

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    You’ve lost me? The arguments I keep seeing is we need to strengthen around Pogba but what is the point of planning on that. It’s like planning the wedding for the bird you already know is cheating on you.